HC Deb 06 December 1948 vol 459 cc30-1
62. Mr. John Lewis

asked the Minister of Transport the form of the representations which he made recently to the Union Castle Line regarding the colour bar on the s.s. "Durban Castle" and the nature of their reply; and if he is satisfied that in future this Line will not introduce segregation on their ships based on colour, or any other type of discrimination.

Mr. Barnes

As I have already informed my hon. Friend, the Union Castle Line are fully aware of my objection to racial discrimination and, in response to my inquiry they informed me that they shared these views. As I have no powers in this matter I must leave it to the Company to make such arrangements on board ship as they consider necessary for the general convenience and comfort of all their passengers.

Mr. Lewis

That is what the right hon. Gentleman told me in the House on 18th November. How is it possible for him to give effect to a principle of non-segregation in regard to racial discrimination and at the same time, have regard to the convenience of certain sections of the community and stoop to the prejudices and practices of the least civilised members of the South African community? How can he do both things at one and the same time?

Mr. Barnes

I do not alter the substance of my reply but, as I informed my hon. Friend, I have conveyed my views to the company. They shared my views and I have no further power to take action in the matter.

Mr. Lewis

If the company tell my right hon. Friend that they deplore racial discrimination and at the same time are going to look after the convenience of certain passengers who wish the colour bar to be imposed on board that ship, can he tell the House that he is satisfied with the position?

Mr. Barnes

I have not indicated that I am satisfied with the position. What I have indicated is that I have no power to deal with this matter myself and that I think it is best left to the general common sense of the British shipping companies.