HC Deb 25 July 1947 vol 440 cc1755-6

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."

11.7 a.m.

Mr. Charles Williams (Torquay)

Clause of this Bill is, I think, fairly plain, and I understand it fairly well, but it is, so far as I am aware, a new Clause, and I do not know what are the precedents for it. It concerns the property and chattels which are to vest in the Ministries of Works and Education. I believe I have the agreement of at least one hon. Gentleman opposite in saying that, when we are passing a Bill of this kind, it is rather essential, as there may be other instances later, that we should have some explanation as to how this Clause was worked out and upon what principles. I am not opposed to it in any way, but I should like to know precisely what principles we are applying. Why, for instance, should the Ministry of Works come into it? I think the House should be told these things.

The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Works (Mr. Durbin)

The reason is that there are some objects which have educational value, and it would be easier if they were in charge of the Minister and were used for various educational purposes, and that is why they are placed in the possession of the Minister of Education.

Mr. Williams

I wanted to know how far the Minister of Works was concerned and why that Ministry comes in here Presumably, there is a reason for it.

Mr. Durbin

The Ministry of Works comes in with respect to the building.

Question put, and agreed to.

Clause ordered to stand part of the Bill.