HC Deb 14 July 1947 vol 440 cc177-84

Considered in Committee

[Major Milner in the Chair]

" I. Whereas it appears by the Navy Services Appropriation Account lor the year ended the 31st day of March 1946, that, as shown in the Schedule hereunto appended, the total surpluses and deficits on Navy Votes for that year are as follows:—

£ s. d. £ s. d.
Total Surpluses, viz.;—
Surpluses of actual as compared with estimated receipts (Vote 2–6 and –16) — 55,106,623 12 4
Deduct — Sum to be surrendered to the Exchequer in respect of the Excess of receipt over the total of Appropriations-in-Aid authorised by Parliament — 8,215,984 15 7
46,890,638 16 9
Total Deficits, viz.:—
Deficiencies of actual as compared with estimated receipts (Votes 1 and 7) 46,890,638 16 9 —
Excusses of acutal over estimated gross expenditure 721,843,260 15 11 —
768,733,899 12 8
Net Deficit charged to Vote of Credit £721,843,260 15 11
And whereas the Lords Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury have temporarily authorised the application of that part of the surplus receipts relaised under votes 2 to 6 and 8 to 6 which is required to make good the defict in receipts under Votes 1 and 7.

is in the paragraph, but something which is not, and I think might be. Why is that Section retained and not omitted. The same applies really to my last point—why Subsection (1) of Section 118 was not omitted.

The Attorney-General

I do not think I can answer without guessing, and my guess might be wrong. I will read in the OFFICIAL REPORT what the hon. and gallant Member has said, and I may be able to tell him tomorrow.

Question put, and agreed to.

Bill, as amended, to be reported.

Bill reported, with Amendments; as amended, to be considered Tomorrow.

SCHEDULE.
No. of Vote Navy Services, 1945–46, Votes Deficits Surpluses
Excesses of actual over estimated gross Expenditure Deficiencies of actual as compared with estimated Receipts Surpluses of actual as compared with estimated Receipts
£ s. d. £ s. d. £ s. d.
1 Wages, &c., of Officers and Men of the Royal Navy and Royal Marines, and of certain other Personnel serving with the Fleet 141,425,864 18 11 46,890,628 16 9 —
2 Victualling and Clothing for the Navy 69,900,922 8 2 — 11,914,474 10 0
3 Medical Establishments and Services 4,550,488 18 6 — 251,317 13 3
4 Civilians employed on Fleet Services 4,729,656 11 9 — 3,502 18 0
5 Educational Services 264,761 8 0 — 95,543 12 11
6 Scientific Services 4,639,451 18 1 — 135,079 3 7
7 Royal Naval Reserves 64,648 3 4 10 0 0 —
8 Shipbuilding, Repairs, Maintenance, &c.:
Section I—Personnel 35,051,894 9 5 — 446,642 14 1
Section II—Matériel 127,005,042 10 8 — 17,926,911 0 8
Section III—Contract Work 173,575,450 16 2 — 5,385,827 8 0
9 Naval Armaments 46,625,495 10 2 — 7,264,463 18 9
10 Works, Buildings and Repairs at Home and Abroad 26,413,858 8 7 — 630,004 17 9
11 Miscellaneous Effective Services 48,006,007 4 5 — 9,083,379 17 4
12 Admiralty Office 6,976,456 2 2 — 1,855 19 1
13 Non-effective Services (Naval and Marine)—Officers 2,155,298 7 9 — 5,064 6 5
14 Non-effective Services (Naval and Marine)—Men 5,957,511 9 8 — 16,770 14 11
15 Civil Superannuation, Allowances and Gratuities 2,203,728 6 4 — 6,752 16 2
16 Merchant Shipbuilding 22,220,455 15 1 — 1,939,032 1 5
— Balances Irrecoverable and Claims Abandoned 76,267 8 9 — —
55,106,623 12 4
Deduct—Sum to be surrendered to the Exchequer in respect of the Excess of Receipts over the total of Appropriations-in-Aid authorised by Parliament — — 8,215,984 15 7
721,843,260 15 11 46,890,638 16 9 Total Surpluses available
Total Deficits £768,733,899 12 8 £46,890,638 16 9
Net Deficit met from Vote of Credit £721,843,260 15 11"
Resolved: "That the application of such surpluses be sanctioned."—[Mr. Glenvil Hall.]

"II. Whereas it appears by the Army Services Appropriation Account for the year ended the 31st day of March 1946 that, as shown in the Schedule hereunto appended, the total surpluses and deficits on Army Votes for that year are as follows:—

£ s. d. £ s. d.
Total Surpluses, viz.:—
Surpluses of actual as compared with estimated receipts (Votes 2–15) … … … — 30,250,475 17 9
Total Deficits, viz.:—
Deficiencies of actual as compared with estimated receipts (Vote 1) … … … 188,365,139 3 11 —
Excesses of actual over estimated gross expenditure … … … 1,309,873,523 17 2 —
1,498,238,663 1 1
Net Deficit charged to the Vote of Credit £1,467,988,187 3 4

And whereas the Lords Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury have temporarily authorised the application of surplus receipts realised under Votes 2 to 15 towards making good the deficit in receipts under Vote 1.

SCHEDULE.
Deficits. Surpluses.
No. of Vote Army Services, 1945–46, Votes Excesses of Actual over estimated gross Expenditure Deficiencies of actual as compared with estimated Receipts Surpluses of actual as compared with estimated Receipts
£ s. d. £ s. d. £ s. d.
1 Pay, &c., of the Army 570,436,884 8 2 188,365,139 3 11 —
2 Territorial Army and Reserve Forces 1,554.569 6 1 — 397,373 11 7
3 Medical Services 6,147,310 14 1 — 202,758 2 3
4 Educational Establishments 1,536,644 4 0 — 46,328 17 11
5 Quartering and Movements 135,324,127 17 1 — 5,347,496 18 11
6 Supplies, Road Transport and Remounts 310,111,770 7 2 — 13,306,390 14 4
7 Clothing 5,119,266 9 2 — 92,989 7 11
8 General Stores 43,179,430 19 0 — 728,155 19 10
9 Warlike Stores 3,736,078 6 7 — 771,101 6 8
10 Works, Buildings and Lands 73,983,901 15 9 — 5,275,600 13 4
11 Miscellaneous Effective Services 107,688,552 8 0 — 3,089,694 17 1
12 War Office 3,667,951 2 9 — 589 4 5
13 Half-pay, Retired Pay and other Non-effective Charges for Officers 4,039,507 5 7 — 395,858 13 0
14 Pensions and other Non-effective Charges for Warrant Officers, Non-commissioned Officers, men and others 1,932,012 6 11 — 595,373 6 1
15 Civil Superannuation, Compensation and Gratuities 536,608 0 2 — 764 4 5
— Balances Irrecoverable and Claims Abandoned 40,878,908 6 8 — —
1,309,873,523 17 2 188,365,139 3 11 Total Surpluses
Total Deficits £1,498,238,663 1 1 £30,250,475 17 9
Net Deficit met from Vote of Credit £1,467,988,187 3 4"

Resolved: "That the application of such surpluses be sanctioned."—[Mr. Glenvil Hall.]

"III. Whereas it appears by the Air Services Appropriation Account for the year ended the 31st day of March 1946 that, as shown in the Schedule hereunto appended, the total surpluses and deficits on Air Votes for that year are as follows:—

£ s. d. £ s. d.
Total Surpluses, viz.:—
Surpluses of actual as compared with estimated receipts (Votes 2–11) … … … … — 54,669,692 11 2
Total Deficits, viz.:—
Deficiencies of actual as compared with estimated receipts (Vote 1) … … … … 65,540,918 17 5 —
Excesses of actual over estimated gross expenditure … … … … 510,859,611 19 1 —
576,400,530 16 6
Net Deficit (charged to the Vote of Credit) … £521,730,838 5 4

And whereas the Lords Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury have temporarily authorised the application of surplus receipts realised under Votes 2 to 11 towards making good the deficit in receipts under Vote 1.

SCHEDULE.
Deficits. Surpluses.
No. of Vote Army Services, 1945–46, Votes Excesses of Actual over estimated gross Expenditure Deficiencies of actual as compared with estimated Receipts Surpluses of actual as compared with estimated Receipts
£ s. d. £ s. d. £ s. d.
1 Pay, &.c, of the Air Force 268,070,249 6 1 65,540,918 17 5 —
2 Quartering Non-Technical Stores, Supplies and Transportation 56,177,732 13 5 — 3,786,452 14 10
3 Technical and Warlike Stores 91,504,150 17 4 — 48,410,094 7 0
4 Works, Buildings and Lands 63,196,497 1 2 — 1,940,584 10 0
5 Medical Services 845,275 13 6 — 16,179 6 7
6 Educational Services 1,116,327 8 2 — 10,691 7 3
7 Reserve and Auxiliary Forces 114,030 16 0 — 511 8 0
8 Civil Aviation 63,113 14 3 — 9,941 5 4
9 Meteorological and Miscellaneous Effective Services 24,151,757 9 7 — 467,622 15 7
10 Air Ministry 3,970,101 1 7 — 18,257 5 11
11 Half-Pay, Pensions and other Non-effective Services 1,588,847 15 3 — 9,357 10 8
— Balances Irrecoverable and Claims Abandoned 61,528 2 9 — —
510,859,611 19 1 65,540,918 17 5 Total Surpluses
Total Deficits £576,400,530 16 6 £54,669,692 11 2
Net Deficit met from Vote of Credit £521,730,838 5 4"

Resolved: "That the application of such surpluses be sanctioned."—[Mr. Glenvil Hall.]

Resolutions to be reported Tomorrow.