HC Deb 09 December 1946 vol 431 cc737-8
10. Sir John Mellor

asked the Minister of Transport what consultations took place between his Department and interested bodies before the Transport Bill was introduced.

Mr. Barnes

I have had discussions—some of them informal—in the past few months on the subject with a number of organisations representing trade, industry, agriculture and transport. In addition many representative bodies have provided me with information about their transport requirements.

Sir J. Mellor

Will the Minister say in particular what consultations he has had with the railway companies and the road haulage interests?

Mr. Barnes

I have had no direct negotiations on the lines suggested by the hon. Baronet, but this matter has been discussed with representative bodies in a general way.

Sir J. Mellor

Is not the right hon. Gentleman interested in the views of the railway companies and those of the road haulage interests?

Mr. Barnes

Very much interested.

Major Legge-Bourke

Has the right hon. Gentleman been in consultation with representatives from the horticultural industry who are particularly affected?

Mr. Barnes

I have met agricultural representatives. I could not say whether that covered horticultural interests or not.

20. Mr. Lipson

asked the Minister of Transport how many additional appointments will be required with separate figures for men and women, to administer the proposals in the Transport Bill.

Mr. Barnes

I am not at present able to state what, if any, net addition to existing staffs will be required.

Mr. Lipson

Will my right hon. Friend give an assurance that on the Second Reading of the Bill he will have that information, because it is of very great importance?

Mr. Barnes

Certainly not. I cannot indicate on the Second Reading of the Bill what staffs will be required. I cannot do that until the Commission has had an opportunity of examining the staffs.

Lieut.-Colonel Sir Thomas Moore

Could the right hon. Gentleman inform us exactly what is the target figure of the Government in regard to the strength of the Civil Service?

Mr. De la Bère

Is the right hon. Gentle man aware that the greatest problem we have today is the acute shortage of man power? Why add to the shortage by this addition of non-productive people?

Mr. Barnes

I would remind the hon. Gentleman that that is just what I resisted doing in reply to this Question in refusing to anticipate a demand that at the moment is not there.