HC Deb 24 October 1944 vol 404 cc3-4
11. Sir Herbert Williams

asked the Secretary of State for War why, when the general Army pay for all ranks under sergeant was raised by 3d. a day, lance-sergeants were classed as sergeants, while under the White Paper sergeants received an increase of 7s. 6d. a day and lance-sergeants only 7s.

Sir J. Grigg

The increases made in Army pay in April this year, to which I think my hon. Friend is referring in the first part of his Question, were not general increases throughout the Army but were confined to the lower non-tradesmen ranks. The lead which the lance-sergeant had over corporals was such as not to justify any increase in his pay under that scheme. The increases given for length of service last September applied to the Army generally and there was nothing unusual in grouping the lance-sergeant with the junior rather than the senior non-commissioned officers. I take it that the 7s. 6d. and 7s. 0d. a day mentioned in my hon. Friend's Question are intended to be 1s. 6d. and 1s. 0d.

Sir H. Williams

I apologise for the error, which may be due to my handwriting. But why does the War Office call a sergeant a lance-sergeant in one case and for another purpose call him a sergeant?

Sir J. Grigg

Why do we not call a lance-corporal, a corporal?

Sir H. Williams

Why, for some purposes, do the War Office call a lance-sergeant a sergeant, and for other purposes make a differentiation?

Sir J. Grigg

The hon. Member might just as well ask why we do not call a lance-corporal a corporal. He is a lance-corporal.