HC Deb 16 November 1944 vol 404 cc2177-8

Lords Amendment: In page 17, line 31, after "authority," insert: in this Section referred to as 'the promoting authority'.

1.24 p.m.

The Solicitor-General (Major Sir David Maxwell Fyfe)

I beg to move, "That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said Amendment."

The next four Amendments are all related and deal with a point which was raised by my hon. Friend the Member for Peckham (Mr. Silkin) previously and I would like to say a few words about them together if that would meet the wishes of the House. The first Amendment is that the authority referred to is the promoting authority, and then there is a drafting Amendment in page 17, line 32, to leave out "that" and insert, "the promoting." In line 34, there is a long Amendment comprising Sub-sections (2) (3) and (4), and finally, another Amendment introducing another Sub-section in line 35. These all run together. They concern the relations of the promoting authority that is arranging for an over-spill area in the area of another authority. There are three points of importance with regard to an over-spill. The first is the manner of lay-out, the second, the rapidity with which you can get on with the job, and the third, the accommodation provided for the people who are to go there. You have not only to allow the authority in whose area the over-spill is placed to have rights but you have to provide rights for the authority that is promoting the over-spill there, the authority from which the people are coming. The general provision is that we hope it will be done by agreement but we have laid down a proviso for introducing variations and modifications in default of agreement. I hope that with that short explanation the House will appreciate the position and will agree with the Lords in the said Amendments.

1.27 p.m.

Mr. Silkin

I only rise to say that my right hon. Friend the Minister has handsomely met the point put to him in the course of the proceedings in this House. The relations between an authority which wants to enter the area of another authority are always very delicate and require very careful handling and the Minister has taken a good deal of trouble to ensure that provisions are incorporated in the Bill which will be fair to the authority which desires to come into the area of the other authority, and to the other authority as well. It is only right to pay this tribute to my right hon. Friend because I have had occasion to say other things to him.

1.28 p.m.

Lieut.-Commander Joynson - Hicks (Chichester)

I would like also to pay tribute to my right hon. Friend and to point out that the very clear explanation he has given does not fully coincide with the marginal note to Clause 11; perhaps he will insert a comma or two in order to make the matter intelligible. It would be difficult to interpret the marginal note in the light of the explanation that has been given.

Mr. H. Strauss

My hon. and gallant Friend has probably got a print of the Bill as it left this House. There have been subsequent prints, and I have no doubt that in the final print of the Bill, when it becomes an Act, commas will be in the right places.

Mr. Gallacher (Fife, West)

Does this discussion cover all the Amendments on page 17, as there is one thing I do not understand? It is the Amendment in lines 26 and 27 to leave out "recreation, worship," and insert "public worship, recreation"—

The Solicitor-General

We have already passed that Amendment.

Mr. Deputy-Speaker

With the leave of the House discussion has taken place on the two Amendments at the bottom of page 2 of the Amendment Paper and the two Amendments on page 3, and I was hoping to put all four Amendments together.

Question put, and agreed to.

Subsequent Lords Amendments, to page 17, line 35, agreed to.