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Notice taken, that Strangers were present.

Whereupon Mr. SPEAKER, pursuant to Standing Order No. 89, put the Question, "That Strangers be ordered to withdraw."

Question agreed to.

Strangers withdrew accordingly.

Mr. SPEAKER afterwards issued the following Report of the PROCEEDINGS IN SECRET SESSION:

Division No. 21. AYES.
Acland-Troyte, Lt.-Col. G. J. Fildes, Sir H. McEntee, V. la T.
Adamson, W. M. (Cannock) Fox, Squadron-Leader Sir G. W. G. McEwen, Capt. J. H. F.
Albery, Sir Irving Frankel, D. McGhee, H. G.
Barnes, A. J. Galbraith, Comdr. T. D. McGovern, J.
Barstow, P. G. Gallacher, W. McKie, J. H.
Baxter, A. Beverley Gibbins, J. Macmillan, M. (Western Isles)
Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. Gibson, Sir C. G. McNeil, H.
Beaumont, Maj. Hn. R. E. B. (P'tsm'th) Glanville, J. E. Magnay, T.
Beech, Major F. W. Goldie, N. B. Maitland, Sir A.
Beechman, N. A. Gower, Sir R. V. Makins, Brig.-Gen. Sir E.
Bennett, Sir E. N. (Cardiff, Central) Graham, Capt. A. C. Manning, C. A. G.
Bennett, Sir P. F. B. (Edgbaston) Green, W. H. (Deptford) Mathers, G.
Blair, Sir R. Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. Maxton, J.
Boothby, R. J. G. Grenfell, D. R. Mayhew, Lt.-Col. J.
Bossom, A. C. Gridley, Sir A. B. Medlicott, Colonel Frank
Boulton, W. W. Grimston, R. V. (Westbury) Mills, Sir F. (Leyton, E.)
Bowles, F. G. Guest, Dr. L. Haden (Islington, N.) Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest)
Braithwaite, Lt.-Cdr. J. G. (H'dern's) Hall, Rt. Hon. G. H. (Aberdare) Mitchell, Colonel H. P.
Brocklebank, Sir C. E. R. Hannon, Sir P. J. H. Montague, F.
Brooks, T. J. (Rothwell) Hardie, Agnes Morgan, R. H. (Stourbridge)
Brown, Rt. Hon. E. (Leith) Harris, Rt. Hon. Sir P. A. Morris-Jones, Sir Henry
Brown, T. J. (Ince) Henderson, J. (Ardwick) Morrison, Major J. G. (Salisbury)
Bull, B. B. Henderson, T. (Tradeston) Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.)
Burden, T. W. Heneage, Lt.-Col. A. P. Murray, J. D. (Spennymoor)
Burke, W. A. Hepburn, Major P. G. T. Buchan. Neal, H.
Burton, Col. H. W. Hewlett, T. H. Nicholson, Captain G. (Farnham)
Campbell, Sir E. T. (Bromley) Higgs, W. F. Nield, Major B. E.
Carver, Colonel W. H. Hollins, J. H. (Silvertown) Oldfield, W. H.
Cary, R. A. Hopkinson, A. Peat, C. U.
Castlereagh, Viscount Horsbrugh, Florence Pethick-Lawrence, Rt. Hon. F. W.
Chapman, A. (Rutherglen) Hume, Sir G. H. Ponsonby, Col. C. E.
Chater, D. Hutchison, Lt.-Com. G. I. C. (E'burgh) Power, Sir J. C.
Clarke, Colonel R. S. Hynd, J. B. Pownall, Lt.-Col. Sir Assheton
Cluse, W. S. Isaacs, G. A. Price, M. P.
Colman, N. C. D. Jarvis, Sir J. J. Pritt, D. N.
Conant, Major R. J. E. Jeffreys, General Sir G. D. Procter, Major H. A.
Cooke, J. D. (Hammersmith, S.) Jenkins, A. (Pontypool) Pym, L. R.
Courthope, Col. Rt. Hon. Sir G. L. Jewson, P. W. Raikes, H. V. A. M.
Critchley, A. John, W. Rankin, Sir R.
Crooke, Sir J. Smedley Jones, L. (Swansea, W.) Reid, W. Allan (Derby)
Culverwell, C. T. Key, C. W. Riley, B.
Davidson, Viscountess (H'm'l H'mst'd) Kirby, B. V. Ritson, J.
Davies, Clement (Montgomery) Knox. Major-General Sir A. W. F. Robinson, W. A. (St. Helens)
Davies, S. O. (Merthyr) Lamb, Sir J. Q. Ross Taylor, W.
Davison, Sir W. H. Lawson, J. J. (Chester-le-Street) Royds, Admiral Sir P. M. R.
De Chair, Capt. S. S. Lees-Jones, J. Russell, Sir A. (Tynemouth)
Denman, Hon. R. D. Lennox-Boyd, A. T. L. Salt, E. W.
Denville, Alfred Leonard, W. Savory, Professor D. L.
Digby, Capt. K. S. D. W. Leslie, J. R. Selley, Sir H. R.
Doland, G. F. Levy, T. Shaw, Capt. W. T. (Forfar)
Douglas, F. C. R. Lewis, O. Silkin, L.
Drewe, C. Liddall, W. S. Silverman, S. S.
Duckworth, W. R. (Moss Side) Loftus, P. C. Sloan, A.
Eccles, D. M. Longhurst, Captain H. C. Smith, Sir R. W. (Aberdeen)
Ede, J. C. Loverseed, J. E. Smith, T. (Normanton)
Edmondson, Major Sir J. Lyle, Sir C. E. Leonard Smithers, Sir W.
Elliot, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. W. E. MacAndrew, Col. Sir C. G. Snadden, W. McN.
Ellis, Sir G. McCallum, Major D. Sorensen, R. W.
Emmott, C. E. G. C. McCorquodale, Malcolm S. Stewart, J. Henderson (Fife, E.)
Everard, Sir W. Lindsay Macdonald, Capter Peter (I. of W.) Stewart, W. Joseph (H'gton-le-Spring)

The House in Secret Session debated a proposal to alter the hours of sitting. A Division took place on the proposal, which was defeated.

Proceedings in relation to Division.

Amendment proposed, to leave out certain words from the Order of the House of 31st March, and insert a new Time Table.

Question put, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Order."

The House divided: Ayes, 208; Noes, 74.

Strauss, G. R. (Lambeth, N.) Tinker, J. J. Whiteley, Rt. Hon. W. (Blaydon)
Strickland, Capt. W. F. Touche, G. C. Windsor, W.
Studholme, Captain H. G. Walkden, A. G. (Bristol, S.) Windsor-Clive, Lt.-Col. G.
Sueter, Rear-Admiral Sir M. F. Ward, Col. Sir A. L. (Hull) Wood, Hon. C. I. C. (York)
Sykes, Maj.-Gen. Rt. Hon. Sir F. H. Waterhouse, Captain Rt. Hon. C. Woodburn, A.
Tasker, Sir R. I. Watkins,. F. C. Wootton-Davies, J. H.
Taylor, H. B. (Mansfield) Wells, Sir S. Richard Young, A. S. L. (Partick)
Taylor, R. J. (Morpeth) White, C. F. (Derbyshire, W.)
Thomas, J. P. L. (Hereford) White, Sir Dymoke (Fareham) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Thomas, Dr. W. S. Russell (S'th'm'tn) White, H. (Derby, N.E.) Major Sir George Davies and
Mr. Viant.
NOES.
Barr, J. Hinchingbrooke, Viscount Shakespeare, Sir G. H.
Bartlett, C. V. O. Hogg, Hon. Q. McG. Smiles, Lt.-Col. Sir W. D.
Beit, Sir A. L. Hudson, Sir A. (Hackney, N.) Smith, E. P. (Ashford)
Bellenger, F. J. Hughes, R. Meelwyn Spearman, A. C. M.
Berry, Hon. G. L. (Buckingham) James, Wing-Com. A. (Well'borough) Stokes, R. R.
Bevan, A. (Ebbw Vale) Joynson-Hicks, Lt.-Comdr. Hn. L. W Storey, S.
Bower, Norman (Harrow) Keeling, E. H. Strauss, H. G. (Norwich)
Bower, Comdr. R. T. (Cleveland) Kendall, W. D. Suirdate, Viscount
Brooke, H. (Lewisham) Kerr, H. W. (Oldham) Tate, Mrs. Mavis C.
Bullock, Capt. M. King-Hall, Commander W. S. R. Taylor, Major C. S. (Eastbourne)
Campbell, Dermot (Antrim) Lakin, C. H. A. Teeling, Flight-Lieut. W.
Colegate, W. A. Lancaster, Lieut.-Col. C. G. Thomas, I. (Keighley)
Cove, W. G. Lawson, H. M. (Skipton) Tree, A. R. L. F.
Driberg, T. E. N. Linstead, H. N. Turton, R. H.
Duckworth, Arthur (Shrewsbury) Lipson, D. L. Wakefield, W. W.
Evans, Colonel A. (Cardiff, S.) Lucas, Major Sir J. M. Walkden, E. (Doncaster)
Evans, D. O. (Cardigan) Mander, G. le M. Ward, Irene M. B. (Wallsend)
Gammans, Capt. L. D. Manningham-Buller, R. E. Wardlaw-Milne, Sir J. S.
Gates, Major E. E. Moore, Lieut.-Col. Sir T. C. R. Wedderburn, H. J. S.
Grant-Ferris, Wing-Comdr. R. Paling, Rt. Hon. W. White, H. Graham (Birkenhead, E.)
Granville, E. L. Pickthorn, K. W. M. Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Grelton, J. F. Plugge, Capt. L. F. York, Major C.
Grigg, Sir E. W. M. (Altrincham) Reakes, G. L. (Wallasey)
Gunston, Major Sir D. W. Reed, Sir H. S. (Aylesbury) TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Hall, W. G. (Colne Valley) Richards, R. Mr. Molson and Captain Cobb.
Harvey, T. E. Scott, Lord William (Ro'b'k & Selk'k)

Question put, "That Mr. SPEAKER do include the record of this division just taken in his Report of the Proceedings of

Division No. 22. AYES.
Acland-Troyte, Lt.-Col. G. J. Eccles, D. M. Keeling, E. H.
Barr, J. Ede, J. C. Kendall, W. D.
Bartlett, C. V. O. Evans, Colonel A. (Cardiff, S.) Kerr, H. W. (Oldham)
Beechman, N. A. Evans, D. O. (Cardigan) Kerr, Sir John Graham (Scottish U's.)
Beit, Sir A. L. Fox, Squadron-Leader Sir G. W. G. King-Hall, Commander W. S. R.
Bellenger, F. J. Galbraith, Comdr. T. D. Kirby, B. V.
Bennett, Sir E. N. (Cardiff, Central) Gallacher, W. Lancaster, Lieut.-Col. C. G.
Bennett, Sir P. F. B. (Edgbaston) Gammans, Capt. L. D. Lawson, H. M. (Skipton)
Berry, Hon. G. L. (Buckingham) Gates, Major E. E. Linstead, H. N,
Bevan, A. (Ebbw Vale) Gibson, Sir C. G. Lipson, D. L.
Bower, Norman (Harrow) Glanville, J. E. Loftus, P. C.
Bower, Comdr. R. T. (Cleveland) Graham, Captain A. C. (Wirral) Longhurst, Captain H. C.
Bralthwaite, Lt.-Cdr. J. G. (H'dern's) Grenfell, D. R. Loverseed, J. E.
Brocktebank, Sir C. E. R. Gretton, J. F. Lucas, Major Sir J. M.
Brooke, H. (Lewisham) Grigg, Sir E. W. M. (Altrincham) McEntee, V. La T.
Brooks, T. J. (Rothwell) Guest, Dr. L. Haden (Islington, N.) McGhee, H. G.
Brown, Rt. Hon. E. (Leith) Guy, W. H. McGovern, J.
Brown, T. J. (Ince) Hall, W. G. (Colne Valley) MacMillan, M. (Western Isles)
Bullock, Capt. M. Hardie, Agnes McNeil, H.
Burden, T. W. Harris, Rt. Hon. Sir P. A. Maitland, Sir A.
Carver, Colonel W. H. Harvey, T. E. Makins, Brig.-Gen. Sir E.
Castlereagh, Viscount Henderson, J. (Ardwick) Mander, G. le M.
Henderson, T. (Tradeston) Manning, C. A. G.
Cluse, W. S. Hewlett, T. H. Mathers, G.
Cobb, Captain E. C. Higgs, W. F. Maxton, J.
Colegate, W. A. Hogg, Hon. Q, McG. Messer, F.
Crooke, Sir J. Smedley Hollins, J. H. (Silvertown) Mills, Sir F. (Leyton, E.)
Davidson, Viscountess (H'm'I H'mst'd) Hubbard, T. F. Molson, A. H. E.
Davies, Clement (Montgomery) Hughes, R. Moolwyn Murray, J. D. (Spennymoor)
Davies, S. O. (Merthyr) Hutchison, Lt.-Com. G. I. C. (E'burgh) Neal, H.
Denman, Hon. R. D. Hynd, J. B. Nicholson, G. (Farnham)
Driberg, T. E. N. James, Wing-Com. A. (Well'borough) Nield, Major B. E.
Duckworth, Arthur (Shrewsbury) Jenkins, Sir W. (Neath) Oldfield, W. H.
Duckworth, W. R. (Moss Side) Jones, L. (Swansea, W.) Pickthorn, K. W. M.

this day's Secret Session.—[Major Thorneycroft.]

The House divided: Ayes, 141; Noes, 99.

Ponsonby, Col. C. E. Strauss, G. R. (Lambeth, N.) Ward, Irene M. B. (Wallsend)
Reakes, G. L. (Wallasey) Suirdate, Viscount Wedderburn, H. J. S.
Reed, Sir H. S. (Aylesbury) Sutcliffe, H. White, C. F. (Derbyshire, W.)
Richards, R. Tate, Mrs. Mavis C. White, H. (Derby, N.E.)
Ritson, J. Taylor, Major C. S. (Eastbourne) White, H. Graham (Birkenhead, E.)
Savory, Professor D. L. Taylor, H. B. (Mansfield) Whiteley, Rt. Hon. W. (Blaydon)
Shakespeare, Sir G. H. Taylor, R. J. (Morpeth) Williams, Sir H. G. (Croydon, S.)
Silkin, L. Teeling, Flight-Lieut. W. Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Silverman, S. S. Thomas, I. (Keighley) Woodburn, A.
Sloan, A. Thomas, Dr. W. S. Russell (S'mpton) York, Major C.
Smiles, Lt. Col. Sir W. D. Thorneycroft, Major G. E. P. (Stafford)
Smith, E. P. (Ashford) Tinker, J. J. TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Sorensen, R. W. Tree, A. R. L. F. Lord Hinchingbrooke and
Stokes, R. R. Viant, S. P. Mr. Wakefield.
Storey, S. Ward, Col. Sir A. L. (Hull)
NOES.
Adamson, W. M. (Cannock) Frankel, D. Price, M. P.
Albery, Sir Irving Garro Jones, G. M. Procter, Major H. A.
Barnes, A. J. Goldie, N. B. Pym, L. R.
Beamish, Rear Admiral T. P. Gower, Sir R. V. Raikes, H. V. A. M.
Beaumont, Maj. Hn. R. E. B. (P'tsm'h) Green, W. H. (Deptford) Rankin, Sir R.
Beech, Major F. W. Gridley, Sir A. B. Reid, W. Allan (Derby)
Blair, Sir R. Grimston, R. V. (Westbury) Robertson, Rt. Hn. Sir M. A. (Mitcham)
Boothby, R. J. G. Hall, Rt. Hon. G. H. (Aberdare) Ross Taylor, W.
Bossom, A. C. Hepburn, Major P. C. T. Buchan. Russell, Sir A. (Tynemouth)
Boulton, W. W. Hopkinson, A. Salt, E. W.
Bowles, F. G. Horsbrugh, Florence Scott, Lord William (Re'b'h & Selk'k)
Bull, B. B. Hudson, Rt. Hon. R. S. (Southport) Shute, Col. Sir J. J.
Burton, Col. H. W. Hume, Sir G. H. Smith, Sir R. W. (Aberdeen)
Cadogan, Maj. Sir E. Isaacs, G. A. Smith, T. (Normanton)
Campbell, Dermot (Antrim) Jeffreys, General Sir G. D. Smithers, Sir W.
Campbell, Sir E. T. (Bromley) John, W. Snadden, W. McN.
Cary, R. A. Jowitt, Rt. Hon. Sir W. A. Stewart, J. Henderson (Fife, E.)
Chater, D. Key, C. W. Strickland, Capt. W. F.
Clarke, Colonel R. S. Knox, Major-General Sir A. W. F. Sueter, Rear-Admiral Sir M. F.
Colman, N. C. D. Levy, T. Thomas, J. P. L. (Hereford)
Conant, Major R. J. E. Lyle, Sir C. E. Leonard Turton, R. H.
Courthope, Col. Rt. Hon. Sir G. L. MacAndrew, Colonel Sir C. G. Walkden, A. G. (Bristol, S.)
Critchley, A. McCallum, Major D. Wardlaw-Milne, Sir J. S.
Crowder, Capt. J. F. E. Macdonald, Captain Peter (I. of W.) Waterhouse, Captain Rt. Hon. C.
Culverwell, C. T. McEwen, Capt. J. H. F. Watkins, F. C.
Davison, Sir W. H. Magnay, T. Wells, Sir S. Richard
Danville, Alfred Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest) White, Sir Dymoke (Fareham)
Doland, G. F. Mitchell, Colonel H. P. Willink, Rt. Hon. H. U.
Douglas, F. C. R. Montague, F. Windsor, W.
Drawn, C. Morrison, Major J. G. (Salisbury) Windsor-Clive, Lt.-Col. G.
Elliot, Lt.-Col, Rt. Hon. W. E. Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Young, A. S. L. (Partick)
Emmott, C. E. G. C. Pethick-Lawrence, Rt. Hon. F. W.
Everard, Sir W. Lindsay Plugge, Capt. L. F. TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Fildes, Sir H. Power, Sir J. C. Mr. O. Lewis and Major Sir
George Davies.

The House subsequently resumed in Public Session.