HC Deb 02 February 1944 vol 396 cc1275-6
58. Mr. Robertson

asked the Minister of Supply why his Department is obstructing the visit to the U.S.A. of Mr. Gormley, of international Chemical Company, Limited, London, whose associated companies in Canada and the U.S.A. rank as the largest manufacturers of penicillin and who are prepared to put all their knowledge and experience at the disposal of the British company so that large-scale manufacture of penicillin can be commenced at the earliest moment.

Mr. Peat

Mr. Gormley has sought the support of the Ministry of Supply for his application for an exit permit to visit North America for the purpose of investigating penicillin production and for certain other purposes. In the absence of evidence that his visit would be likely to increase supplies of penicillin, I do not feel able to support his application. Technical experts are already visiting penicillin plants and mould culture establishments in America and the information they obtain as to processes and equipment will be made available to any manufacturers in this country who satisfy the Ministry of Supply that they are in a position to undertake the production of penicillin.

Mr. Robertson

Is it not a fact that my hon. Friend's Department have granted a virtual monopoly of penicillin to three or four firms only, that their output is disappointing—not 1 per cent. of the demand—and, with thousands of lives in jeopardy in the near future, why should this American and Canadian offer be refused?

Mr. Peat

We have not granted a monopoly to three firms. The production of penicillin at present is in its infancy and is at the experimental stage. Patent rights and any other developments which may occur during the war, have been pooled and will be made available to any manufacturer who is in a position to make penicillin.

Sir Herbert Williams

Who are the employers of the people already sent to the United States?

Mr. Peat

That is another question.

Sir H. Williams

But the hon. Gentleman said that certain experts had gone and we want to know who they represent.

Mr. Peat

I should like notice of that question.

Mr. Craik Henderson

Is the Minister aware that the production of penicillin in the United States is far ahead of our production, and will he realise the importance of taking every possible step to increase the production in this country?

Mr. Peat

The production of penicillin in the United States is ahead of the production in this country but it is not adequate to the demand in the United States. We are making every effort to get information from the United States for use in this country.

Mr. A. Edwards

Does the Minister not think that in view of the great advantages offered by penicillin, every possible avenue should be explored and not a moment be lost?

Mr. Peat

I entirely agree with my hon. Friend, and the Ministry of Supply are taking that action.

Mr. Robertson

In view of the unsatisfactory answer to this Question, I give notice that I will raise the matter again at the first opportunity.