HC Deb 01 February 1944 vol 396 cc1106-7
19. General Sir George Jeffreys

asked the Secretary of State for War why retired officers employed in his Department on matters requiring military experience and incapable of transaction by civilians are none the less classed as employed in a civilian capacity, and therefore subject to non-beneficial unemployment and health insurance; and whether, in view of the resentment thereby occasioned, he will alter the classification.

Sir J. Grigg

These gentlemen, although employed in military branches, are temporary civil servants, and as such are subject to the ordinary statutory provisions of the National Insurance Acts. Unemployment and Health Insurance benefits under those Acts are secured to them and are payable without regard to means. In the circumstances, I am unable to agree to any alteration in their classification.

Sir G. Jeffreys

Do not these officers still hold the King's Commission and draw retired pay, and do they not require military knowledge to perform the duties which they have to perform? Is there any reason, in that case, why they should be classed as civilians?

Sir J. Grigg

As my hon. and gallant Friend knows, it is a practice which has been going on for a great many years, and I personally do not see sufficient reason for upsetting it.

Sir G. Jeffreys

Is there any reason why, because it has been going on for a number of years, it should continue to go on? Is it not an injustice? These officers can derive no benefits. Does not my right hon. Friend think——

Mr. Speaker

That is not a question, but an argument.