HC Deb 08 July 1943 vol 390 cc2245-7
39. Mr. Craven-Ellis

asked the Minister of Health the pre-war cost of building houses containing 18,000 cubic feet, where the erection was undertaken by local authorities and private enterprise, respectively.

Mr. E. Brown

No, Sir. Houses of this size are larger than those built by local authorities, and I have no information regarding the cost of such building by private enterprise.

Mr. Craven-Ellis

Would my right hon. Friend be surprised if I told him that the cost of local authorities' houses is 2d. per cubic foot higher than that of private enterprise houses?

Mr. Brown

I should be very happy to receive any information on the subject either in general or in detail.

Mr. Shinwell

Has my right hon. Friend detected any change on these matters among his hon. Friends behind him since the change in the military situation?

Mr. Brown

There is a field of operation, as my hon. Friend knows, for private enterprise and a field for local authorities.

Mr. Thorne

Is the right hon. Gentleman not aware that the houses built by local authorities have fewer faults than those built by private enterprise?

Mr. Brown

I should not agree with that. Everybody knows that there have been faulty houses built under both systems.

Mr. Marshall

Is the right hon. Gentleman not aware that from 1920 onwards private enterprise found it impossible to build at the required price, and had to have a subsidy from the local authorities?

Mr. Brown

I have already pointed out that we welcome private enterprise in housing. Between the two wars we had the big boom, and private enterprise was able to build 3,000,000 out of the 4,000,000 houses which were built.

40. Mr. Craven-Ellis

asked the Minister of Health the period over which local authorities built 1,000,000 houses after the last war, and the period over which the 3,000,000 were built by private enterprise?

Mr. E. Brown

The periods were approximately 19 years and 21 years respectively.

Mr. Craven-Ellis

Is my right hon. Friend aware that local authorities did not build low-rented houses although they had subsidies, and that it was not until the Housing Act, 1933, was passed, and subsidies were terminated, that private enterprise built low-rented houses, without any subsidy?

Mr. Brown

My hon. Friend is now agreeing with the answer which I gave him originally. Nevertheless, there was a very definite and specific field for local authorities, perhaps mostly in slum clearance and the prevention of overcrowding.

Mr. McEntee

Has the right hon. Gentleman any figures which would enable us to say what were the rents charged for similar houses built by local authorities and by private enterprise?

Mr. Brown

Certainly not in answer to this Question.