HC Deb 17 February 1943 vol 386 cc1716-8
25. Mr. Ellis Smith

asked the Minister of Aircraft Production why draughtsmen and other skilled workpeople have been employed on one machine changing the structure from the standard York and fitting it up as a luxury air liner; and why is time being spent on it when the original machine could have been fitted with seats like the troop-carrier aeroplanes?

Sir S. Cripps

In view of the long journeys by air which those concerned in the higher direction of the war are frequently called upon to undertake, arrangements are now in hand for the provision of more suitably equipped transport aircraft than have hitherto been available. The airplane to which the hon. Member refers is one of several being adapted in the manner considered most appropriate for this purpose.

Mr. Smith

Could the right hon. and learned Gentleman be more specific and state for whom the luxury air liners are being built, in view of the large amount of man-hours being spent on this particular machine?

Sir S. Cripps

I cannot be more specific than I have been in the statement I have already made, that it is for those concerned with the higher direction of the war. They may be quite a number of people.

Mr. Smith

In view of the baths and all manner of utensils of that kind which are being fitted on the aircraft, and in view of the way that the ordinary men of the Armed Forces have to carry on, can the right hon. and learned Gentleman state for whom the luxury air liners are being built?

Sir S. Cripps

I repeat, for those concerned in the higher direction of the war.

Mr. Shinwell

Does my right hon. and learned Friend accept the description "luxury air liners"? Are luxury air liners being built for those concerned in the higher direction of the war? Why cannot they manage as ordinary people do?

Sir S. Cripps

It depends on what is meant by "luxury." Some people would regard washing as a luxury, and others would not.

Mr. Shinwell

Does my right hon. and learned Friend, in that facetious reply—which, if I may say so, is quite unusual for him—suggest that the ordinary men travelling in the troop carriers do not wash, and that this ablutionary privilege is left to those concerned in the higher direction of the war? How often do they wash?

Sir S. Cripps

I was making reference to that part of the Question alleging that there was a bath.

Mr. Shinwell

Have they a bath?

Sir S. Cripps

The people concerned in the higher direction of the war require a certain degree of comfort on long-distance journeys if they are to perform their duties properly.

Sir Alfred Beit

Shall we not need such aircraft after the war, and is not this a step in the right direction?

Mr. Driberg

Is the right hon. and learned Gentleman aware that those who have ever crossed the Atlantic in a bomber will learn with relief that the Prime Minister does not have to travel in the same discomfort?

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