HC Deb 19 March 1940 vol 358 cc1786-7
15. Mr. Leslie

asked the Secretary of State for War the number of applications made by shipbuilding firms and trade unions for the release of skilled craftsmen from the Army to carry out shipbuilding and ship-repairing work; and the number of such men released from Army service?

Mr. Stanley

Under the general arrangements made for the release from the Territorial Army of certain men belonging to the most vital civil occupations, about 8,000 men have been returned to industry, but I am unable to say how many of these are employed on shipbuilding. Apart from this, applications from firms or others for release of men have to be made to the Government Department concerned with the particular industry, and I have no information as to the number of such applications. The number of temporary or indefinite releases authorised by the War Office in such cases in connection with shipping is 1,088.

Mr. Leslie

Is the Minister aware that some of these skilled craftsmen are still doing fatigue duty in the Army instead of being released for important national service?

Mr. Stanley

No, Sir, I am not aware of that, and I should be glad if the hon. Gentleman would send me any particulars. During the last months we have had a comb-out in the Army to ensure that any man of skill is utilised on the particular job for which he is suited, and if the hon. Gentleman is in possession of any information of a case where that has not been done, I should be glad to have that information.

Mr. Levy

Is the Minister aware that despite the application from the Ministry of Supply for the release of skilled men, I have received letters from the War Office saying that they will not be released?

Mr. Kirkwood

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that an application was made to the Financial Secretary to the War Office for highly skilled tool makers in the shipyards on the Clyde, which are desirous of getting them and cannot do so?

Mr. Stanley

Wherever possible I have tried to meet the demand of the Ministry of Supply or of other Ministries, but at the same time I must have consideration for the efficiency of the Army. There are cases of certain men who hold positions or who have experience which has made their release detrimental to the efficiency of the Army. That is a consideration which I have to bear in mind.

Mr. Kirkwood

Is the Minister aware that the statement which I possess in writing says that these men are not being employed in engineering work?