HC Deb 07 February 1940 vol 357 cc205-6
43. Captain Sir William Brass

asked the Minister of Transport whether in view of the fact that pedestrians at present take very little notice of the traffic lights during the black-out, many of which are difficult to see, he will consider experimenting with pedestrian light controls working in conjunction with the traffic lights but in the opposite sense, in order to show pedestrians when traffic is flowing and when it has stopped and a free passage across the road is available?

Captain Wallace

As I informed my hon. and gallant Friend on 26th July last, I had proposed to issue a circular to highway authorities urging the provision of additional light signals for pedestrians wherever these are practicable and warranted. I much regret that owing to the diversion of members of my staff to other urgent war duties, the issue of this circular has been delayed; but the matter is now in hand and it will be issued in the near future.

Sir W. Brass

Is my right hon. and gallant Friend not aware that pedestrians very often cannot see the traffic light in the dark, and that accidents occur because they begin to cross just as the green is showing and the traffic begins to move? It is really a very serious matter in the dark.

Captain Wallace

As I said in the Debate last week, the pedestrians should look at the traffic and not only at the lights.

Sir W. Brass

They cannot.

Miss Rathbone

Will the inquiry which the right hon. and gallant Gentleman said he was to undertake pursue its investigation into how far pedestrians contribute to accidents as a result of wearing excessively dark clothing?

Captain Wallace

We shall try so far as we can to discover the primary cause of every accident.

Sir W. Brass

Do I understand that pedestrians are expected, at the light control, to look at the traffic and not at the light?

Captain Wallace

The pedestrian should make perfectly certain that something is not turning to the left. If he relies entirely on the light he may be in danger of being run over.