HC Deb 16 April 1940 vol 359 cc789-91
48. Captain W. T. Shaw:

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that the bank of the State of San Paulo have lying in a London bank the sum of, approximately, £98,000, which was to have been used for the purchase by tender of that bank's 6 per cent. Guaranteed Sterling Mortgage Bonds, Series A, B, and C, but that the bank only accepted tenders for very small amounts; and will he give an assurance that the £98,000 will not be permitted to leave this country?

Sir J. Simon

I have considered my hon. and gallant Friend's suggestion, but I do not feel able to adopt it.

49. Sir A. Somerville

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether there is any British control over the use, by overseas members of the sterling group, of sterling paid to them by Britain for supplies, or whether the recipients of the sterling are allowed to sell or use it for buying in markets outside the sterling group?

Sir J. Simon

The combined effect of the exchange control regulations in this country and the other countries which form part of the sterling area is that there is full control over the use by overseas members of the sterling group of all sterling paid to them by this country.

Mr. John Wilmot

Is it not a fact that foreigners who have sterling balances in this country can transfer them to other foreigners, who can use them for purposes not in the interests of this country?

Sir J. Simon

That is a rather different question, and I dealt with it the other day. If the hon. Member will look at this Question, he will see that it deals with balances passing between different members of the sterling group.

50. Sir I. Albery

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in requisitioning British-held dollar securities, any method is followed with a view to distributing the burden equitably over the various holders of the different securities?

Sir J. Simon

The primary consideration in choosing which securities shall be vested in the Treasury is that of the national interest, which requires that they shall be readily marketable abroad. My hon. Friend will have noticed that the Treasury Order made on 13th April has extended the operation over a wide field, and includes securities of varying classes.

Sir I. Albery

Will those who have their securities requisitioned obtain approximately the same price, or the same value, as the Treasury receive for those securities?

Sir J. Simon

I have no doubt that my hon. Friend is aware of the regulation, which is that securities are taken over at the price of the day.

Sir I. Albery

Yes; but that does not answer my Supplementary Question. Does the person who gives up the securities, in the interest of the State, receive approximately the same value as the State receives for those securities?

Sir J. Simon

The disposal of those securities by the State results in the State receiving sometimes more than it has paid for them, sometimes less.

Mr. J. Wilmot

Would it not be more equitable to requisition all dollar securities at the same time, rather than taking them in groups on a narrower and rising market?

Sir J. Simon

For practical reasons, it would not really be a good step to requisition the whole bunch of them at one time.

Sir I. Albery

Does that mean that the Treasury is, in fact, speculating in American securities?

Sir J. Simon

No, Sir, it does not mean that. My hon. Friend knows the great advantage we are getting through our control of the orderly realisation of these assets.