HC Deb 09 April 1940 vol 359 cc455-6
75. Mr. R. Gibson

asked the Secretary of State for War whether he will consider how a fine of £2,imposed on a serving soldier while acting as chauffeur to an officer, ought to be met in the best interests of the soldier and the Service; whether he will consider issuing instructions for setting up a regimental insurance fund to meet such incidents or otherwise to ease the burden from the shoulders of a soldier receiving 6s. per week; and whether he has any statement to make on the subject?

Mr. Stanley

A soldier acting as a chauffeur who commits a breach of the Road Traffic Act or other civil offence is liable to penalty in a civil court equally with any other person, and I see no justification for a regimental insurance fund. It is the practice to pay fines on the soldier's behalf and to recover the amount from him by instalments.

Mr. Gibson

Does not the right hon. Gentleman consider that a serving soldier acting in a case of this sort is in quite a different position, so far as ability to pay, from that in which he would be if he were a civilian?

Mr. Stanley

I cannot agree that he is in a different position, because the law applies to him as a soldier equally as it does to a civilian and he has to obey the law in just the same way.

Miss Wilkinson

Is it not a fact that if a serving soldier disobeys an order of an officer, that is under military law? What is a man to do if an officer orders him to disobey the civil law?

Mr. Stanley

That is a hypothetical case. If an officer gave a man an order to disobey the civil code it would be a grave disciplinary offence on the part of the officer and would certainly have to be punished.