20. Mr. De la Bèreasked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware of the large percentage of coastwise traffic which is carried by foreign vessels; and whether he can introduce legislation to ensure the increased employment of British vessels and British crews in this coastwise traffic in the United Kingdom?
§ Mr. StanleyThe share of foreign vessels in the United Kingdom coastwise trade, as measured by arrivals and departures of vessels with cargo, was less than 2 per cent. in 1938 and the first four months of 1939, but the incidence of foreign competition is greater in some trades and in some areas than in others. As regards the second part of the question, I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply 1175 I gave on 9th May to my hon. Friend the Member for Kidderminster (Sir J. Wardlaw-Milne) regarding British shipping in the coasting trade.
Mr. De la BèreDoes my right hon. Friend really mean to tell the House that only 2 per cent. of the coastwise trade is carried by foreign ships?
§ Mr. StanleyYes, it is a fact.
Mr. De la BèreWith the greatest respect to my right hon. Friend I say that he is labouring under some delusion.
§ Mr. ShinwellHas the right hon. Gentleman not given the average percentage, and does he not agree that in certain coastwise trades there is a very high percentage of foreign vessels engaged?
§ Mr. StanleyI would not agree that it was very high, but I agree that it is higher than the average, and that is the reason why I put in my answer that foreign competition is greater in some trades and in some areas than in others.
§ Mr. Benjamin SmithIs it not a fact that it is 13 per cent. if the passenger coastwise trade is eliminated?
§ Mr. StanleyNo, Sir, not so much as that.
Mr. De la BèreMay I ask the Board of Trade not to take the line of least resistance, but really to give us some accurate figures?
§ Mr. StanleyI do not think I have taken the line of least resistance. I have given the hon. Member accurate figures. If his question was so framed that he did not get the figures he wanted, perhaps he will put another question down on another day.