HC Deb 11 July 1939 vol 349 cc2068-72
Mr. Arthur Greenwood

May I ask the Prime Minister for what purpose it is proposed to suspend the n O'clock Rule to-day, and also whether he can state the business of the House for Friday?

The Prime Minister (Mr. Chamberlain)

We hope by about half-past 10 o'clock to-night to have reached such a point in the consideration of the Finance Bill as will ensure the conclusion of the Report stage by half-past 7 to-morrow night. We shall then take to-night the Lords Amendments to the Ministry of Supply Bill.

On Friday the business will be the Second Reading of the Overseas Trade Guarantees Bill, and the Committee stage of the necessary Money Resolution; the Committee and remaining stages of the Air Ministry (Heston and Kenley Aerodromes Extension) Bill if not previously disposed of. If there is time, other Orders may be taken.

Mr. Greenwood

In view of the very late sitting last night and the natural desire of Members not to repeat that experience, which I tried to avoid yesterday, would it not be possible to terminate the discussion on the Finance Bill at an earlier hour and dispose of the Amendments to the Ministry of Supply Bill?

The Prime Minister

The important consideration, from my point of view, is that we should finish the Finance Bill by half-past 7 to-morrow night, and provided that that could be assured it might be possible to terminate discussion earlier to-night.

Mr. Greenwood

I should think there would not be any great difficulty in completing the programme announced last Thursday by 7.30 to-morrow night, in which case I should be grateful if the Prime Minister Would consent to the termination of the discussion a little earlier.

The Prime Minister

We will see what can be done.

Mr. Stephen

Was not the sitting until 3 o'clock this morning a breach of the promise which the Prime Minister gave yesterday that the House would not sit unduly late?

The Prime Minister

No, Sir. I did not give any such promise.

Mr. Stephen

Did not the right hon. Gentleman say: We have a great deal of business to get through, but we do not want the House to

have to sit unduly late."—[OFFICIAL REPORT, 10th July, 1939; col. 1824, Vol. 349.]

The Prime Minister

I hope that the hon. Member appreciates what I said.

Mr. Stephen

Is the Prime Minister justified in making such a statement in view of what he said?

The Prime Minister

I thought I only expressed my hope.

Mr. Bellenger

Does not the Prime Minister recall that he assured the House that he is always reasonable, and is this some of his reasonableness?

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 250; Noes, 131.

Division No. 229.] AYES. [3.50 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lt.-Col. G. J. Chapman, Sir S. (Edinburgh, S.) Goldie, N. B.
Adams, S. V. T. (Leeds, W.) Christie, J. A. Graham, Captain A. C. (Wirral)
Albery, Sir Irving Clarke, Colonel R. S. (E. Grinstead) Grant-Ferris, Flight-Lieutenant R.
Allen, Col. J. Sandeman (B'knhead) Clarry, sir Reginald Grattan-Doyle, Sir N.
Anderson, Sir A. Garrett (C. of Ldn.) Clydesdale, Marquess of Gridley, Sir A. B.
Anderson, Rt. Hn. Sir J. (So'h Univ's) Cobb, Captain E. C. (Preston) Grigg, Sir E. W. M.
Anstruther-Gray, W. J. Colfox, Major Sir W. P. Grimston, R. V.
Aske, Sir R. W. Colville, Rt. Hon. John Gritten, W. G. Howard
Assheton, R. Conant, Captain R. J. E. Guinness, T. L. E. B.
Baillie, Sir A. W. M. Cook, Sir T. R. A. M. (Norfolk, N.) Gunston, Capt. Sir D. W.
Baldwin-Webb, Col. J Cooks, J. D. (Hammersmith, s.) Hacking, Rt. Hon. Sir D. H.
Balniel, Lord Cooper, Rt. Hn. A. Duff (W'st'r S. G'gs) Harbord, Sir A.
Barrie, Sir C. C. Courthope, Col. Rt. Hon. Sir G. L. Harvey, T. E. (Eng. Univ's.)
Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. Croft, Brig.-Gen. Sir H. Page Haslam, Henry (Horncastle)
Beauchamp, Sir B. C. Crooke, Sir J. Smedley Haslam, Sir J. (Bolton)
Beaumont, Hon. R. E. B. (Portsm'h) Crookshank, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. F. C. Hely-Hutchinson, M. R.
Beit, Sir A. L. Crossley, A. C. Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel A. P.
Bennett, Sir E. N. Crowder, J. F. E. Hepburn, P. G. T, Buchan-
Bernays, R, H. Culverwell, C. T. Hepworth, J.
Bird, Sir R. B. Denman, Hon. R. D. Higgs, W. F.
Blair, Sir R. Denvillne Alfred Holdsworth, H.
Boothby, R. J. G. Doland, G. F. Holmes, J. S.
Bossom, A. C. Drewe, C. Hore-Belisha, Rt. Hon. L
Boulton, W. W. Dugdale, Captain T. L. Howitt, Dr. A. B.
Boyce, H. Leslie Duggan, H. J. Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hack., N.)
Bracken, B. Duncan, J. A. L. Hunloke, H. P.
Braithwaite, Major A. N. (Buckrose) Eastwood, J. F. Hunter, T.
Brass, Sir W. Eckersley, P. T. Inskip, Rt. Hon. Sir T. W. H.
Briscoe, Capt. R. G. Eden, Rt. Hon. A. Jarvis, Sir J. J.
Broadbridge, Sir G. T. Edmondson, Major Sir J. Jones, Sir H. Haydn (Merioneth)
Brocklebank, Sir Edmund Elliot, Rt. Hon. W. E. Jones, L. (Swansea W.)
Brooke, H. (Lewisham, W.) Ellis, Sir G. Keeling, E. H
Brown, Rt. Hon. E. (Leith) Elliston, Capt. G. S. Kellett, Major E. O.
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Newbury) Emmott, C. E. G. C. Kerr, Colonel C.I. (Mantrose)
Browns, A. C. (Belfast, W.) Emrys-Evans, P. V. Kerr, H. W. (Oldham)
Bullock, Capt. M. Entwistle, Sir C. F. Keyes, Admiral of the Fleet Sir R.
Burgin, Rt. Hon. E. L. Errington, E. Kimball, L.
Burton, Col. H. W. Erskine-Hill, A. G. Lamb, Sir J. Q.
Butcher, H. W. Evans, Colonel A. (Cardiff, S.) Lancaster, Lieut.-Colonel C. G.
Butler, Rt. Hon. R. A. Everard, Sir William Lindsay Leech, Sir J. W.
Cartland, J. R. H. Fildes, Sir H. Lennox-Boyd, A. T. L.
Carver, Major W. H. Findlay, Sir E. Levy, T.
Cary, R. A. Fleming, E. L. Lewis, O.
Cayzer, Sir C. W. (City of Chester) Fox, Sir G. W. G. Liddall, W. S.
Cazalet, Thelma (Islington, E.) Fremantle, Sir F. E. Lipson, D. L.
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. N. (Edgb't'n) Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Han. Sir J. Lloyd, G. W.
Channon, H. Gluckstein, L. H. Locker-Lampson, Comdr, O. S.
Chapman, A. (Rutherglen) Glyn, Major Sir R. G. C. Loftus, P. C.
Mabane, W. (Huddersfield) Plugge, Capt. L. F. Stewart, J. Henderson (Fife, E.)
MacAndrew, Colonel Sir C. G. Ponsonby, Col. C. E. Stourton, Major Hon. J. J
McCorquodale, M. S. Porritt, R. W. Strickland, Captain W. F.
Macdonald, Capt. P. (Isle of Wight) Pownall, Lt Col. Sir Assheton Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
McEwen, Capt. J. H. F. Radford, E. A. Sueter, Rear-Admiral Sir M. F.
McKie, J. H. Ramsay, Captain A. H. M. Sutcliffe, H.
Macnamara, Lieut.-Colonel J. R. J. Rathbone, Eleanor (English Univ's.) Tasker, Sir R. I.
Magnay, T. Rawson, Sir Cooper Tate, Mavis C.
Maitland, Sir Adam Reed, Sir H. S. (Aylesbury) Taylor, Vice-Adm. E. A. (Padd., S.)
Makins, Brigadier-General Sir Ernest Remer, J. R. Thomas, J. P. L.
Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. Rickards, G. W. (Skipton) Thorneycroft, G. E. P.
Markham, S. F. Ropner, Colonel L. Thornton-Kemsley, C. N.
Marsden, Commander A. Rosbotham, Sir T. Touche, G. C.
Maxwell, Hon. S. A. Ross Taylor, W. (Woodbridge) Train, Sir J.
Medlicott, F. Royds, Admiral Sir P. M. R. Tufnell, Lieut.-Commander R. L.
Millar, Sir R. J. (Mitcham) Ruggles-Brise, Colonel Sir E. A. Turton, R. H.
Mellor, Sir J. S. P. (Tamworth) Russell, Sir Alexander Walker-Smith, Sir J.
Mills, Sir F. (Layton, E.) Salmon, Sir I Wallace Capt. RL Hon. Euan
Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest) Salt, E. W. Ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull)
Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Salter, Sir J. Arthur (Oxford U.) Warrender, Sir V.
Moore, Lieut.-Col. Sir T. C. R. Samuel, M. R. A. Watt, Lt.-Col. G. S. Harvie
Morgan, R. H. (Worcester, Stourbridge) Sandeman, Sir N. S. Wayland, Sir W. A
Morris-Jones, Sir Henry Schuster, Sir G. E. Wells, Sir Sydney
Mormon, G. A. (Scottish Univ's.) Scott, Lord William Whiteley, Major J. P. (Buckingham)
Nall, Sir J. Shaw, Captain W. T. (Forfar) Williams, H. G, (Croydon, S.)
Neven-Spence, Major B. H. H. Shepperson, Sir E. W. Willoughby de Erasby, Lord
Nicolson, Hon. H. G. Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir J. A. Wilson, Lt.-Col. Sir A. T. (Hitchin)
O'Connor, Sir Terence J Smith, Bracewell (Dulwleh) Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel G.
Orr-Ewing, I. L. Smith, Sir R. W. (Aberdeen) Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Palmer, G. E. H. Smithers, Sir W. Wise, A. R.
Peake, O. Snadden, W. McN. Womersley, Sir W. J.
Peat, C. U. Somerville, Sir A. A. (Windsor) Wright, Wing-commander J. A. C.
Perkins, W. R. D. Southby, Commander Sir A. R. J. Young, A. S. L. (Partick)
Peters, Dr. S. J. Spears, Brigadier-General E. L.
Pickthorn, K. W. M. Spent, W. P. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Pilkington, R. Stanley, Rt. Hon. Oliver (W'm'l'd) Captain Waterhouse and Mr. Munro
NOES.
Adams, D. (Consett) Hardie, Agnes Richards, R. (Wrexham)
Adams, D. M. (Poplar, S.) Harris, Sir P. A. Ridley, G.
Adamson, W. M. Henderson, A. (Kingswinford) Riley, B.
Alexander, Rt. Hon. A. V. (H'lsbr.) Henderson, J. (Ardwick) Ritson, J.
Ammon, C. G. Henderson, T. (Tradeston) Roberts, W.(Cumberland, N.)
Barnes, A. J. Hills, A. (Pontefract) Robinson, W. A. (SI. Helens)
Barr, J. Hopkin, D. Rothschild, J. A. de
Batey, J. Jagger, J. Sanders, W. S.
Beaumont, H. (Batley) Jenkins, A. (Pontypool) Seely, Sir H. M.
Bellenger, F. J. Jenkins, Sir W. (Neath) Sexton, T. M.
Benn, Rt. Hon. W. W. John, W. Shinwell, E.
Benson, G. Jonas, A. C. (Shipley) Silkin, L.
Bevan, A. Kennedy, Rt. Hon. T. Silverman, S. S.
Brown, C. (Mansfield) Kirby, B. V. Simpson, F. B.
Buchanan, G. Kirkwood, D. Smith, Ben (Rotherhithe)
Burke, W. A. Lawson, J. J. Smith, E. (Stoke)
Cape, T. Leach, W. Smith, Rt. Hon. H. B. Lees- (K'ly)
Cluse, W. S. Lee, F. Smith, T. (Normanton)
Clynes, Rt. Hon. J. R. Leonard, W. Sorensen, R. W.
Collindridge, F. Leslie, J. R. Stephen, C.
Daggar, G. Logan, D. G. Stewart, W. J. (H'ght'n-le-Sp'ng)
Davidson, J. J. (Maryhill) Lunn, W. Strauss, G. R. (Lambeth, N.)
Davies, R. J. (Westhoughton) Macdonald, G. (Ince) Taylor, R. J. (Morpeth)
Day, H. McEntee, V. La T. Thorne, W.
Dobbie, W. McGhee, H. G. Thurtle, E.
Dunn, E. (Rother Valley) McGovern, J. Tinker, J. J.
Ede, J. C. MacLaren, A. Viant, S. P.
Edwards, A. (Middlesbrough E.) Maclean, N. Walker, J.
Edwards, Sir C. (Bedwellty) Mainwaring, W. H. Watkins, F. C.
Edwards, N. (Caerphilly) Mander, G. le M. Watson, W. McL.
Evans, D. O. (Cardigan) Marshall, F. Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. J. C.
Fletcher, Lt.-Comdr. R. T. H. Mathers, G. Welsh, J. C.
Gullacher, W. Maxton, J. Westwood, J.
Gardner, B. W. Montague, F. White, H. Graham
Garro Jones, G. M. Morgan, J. (York, W.R., Doncaster) Whiteley, W. (Blaydon)
George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Wilkinson, Ellen
Gibson, R. (Greenock) Naylor, T. E. Williams, E. J. (Ogmore)
Green, W. H. (Deptford) Noel-Baker, P. J Williams, T. (Don Valley)
Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. Owen, Major G. Wilson, C. H. (Attercliffe)
Grenfell, D. R. Paling, W. Windsor, W. (Hull, C.)
Griffith, F. Kingsley (M'ddl'sbro, W.) Parker, J. Woods, G. S. (Finsbury)
Griffiths, G. A. (Hemsworth) Pearson, A.
Griffiths, J. (Llanelly) Pethick-Lawrence, Rt. Hon. F. W. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.
Hall, G. H. (Aberdare) Price, M. P. Mr. Charleton and Mr. Groves.
Hall, J. M. (Whitechapel) Pritt, D. N.