HC Deb 10 March 1938 vol 332 cc2090-2
24. Mr. G. Strauss

asked the Home Secretary the average cost of training a student at the Metropolitan Police training school?

Sir S. Hoare

I understand that the hon. Member refers to the cost of the training of a candidate for appointment as a constable in the Metropolitan Police Force. The average cost is about £21.

25. Mr. G. Strauss

asked the Home Secretary why, out of 3,628 students trained at the Metropolitan Police training college during the five years ended 31st March, 1937, only 2,883 are now serving in the Metropolitan Police Force?

Sir S. Hoare

About 14 per cent. of the wastage is due to discharges during the probationary period or retirements on ill health or on disciplinary grounds. As regards voluntary resignations, a man is not obliged to assign any reason, but, so far as records are available, 232 men resigned to take up other employment (including the Defence Forces), 157 to join or apply to join other police forces at home or overseas, 24 because police work proved uncongenial, and 23 because they were dissatisfied with their prospects.

Mr. Strauss

Does not the right hon. Gentleman think it very unsatisfactory that, after a considerable sum has been spent on training these men, such a large proportion leave the service?

Sir S. Hoare

I am informed that the numbers are not abnormal, and do not compare unfavourably with statistics for other services.

Mr. McEntee

Is the whole cost of training these men borne by the Metropolitan Police Fund, or is part of it paid by the locality to which a man ultimately goes?

Sir S. Hoare

There is another question on that subject on the Paper to-day.

26. Mr. Day

asked the Home Secretary particulars of any decision that has been taken with regard to the scheme of admitting to the Police College persons desiring to serve in the Colonial police service?

Sir S. Hoare

Arrangements have been made with the Colonial Office to admit annually to the Metropolitan Police College, for a one-year course of training, not more than 10 candidates who have been definitely selected by the Secretary of State for the Colonies for appointment to the Colonial Police Service. The first Colonial police candidates (nine in number) were admitted for the course which began in September, 1937.

Mr. Day

Have these men to pay their own expenses?

Sir S. Hoare

The Colonial Office pays expenses.

28. Sir Percy Harris

asked the Home Secretary the number of men trained by the Metropolitan Police during the last five years who have been transferred, resigned, or been discharged from the Metropolitan Police Force and are now serving with another police force; and what steps are being taken, or does he propose to take, to reimburse the Metropolitan Police Fund in respect of the training of these men?

Sir S. Hoare

Figures are available only for the period 1934 to 1937, during which 157 men resigned from the Metropolitan Police Force to join, or to apply to join, other police forces at home or overseas. It is not known how many of them are now so serving. No claim is made for reimbursement of the cost of training.

Sir P. Harris

Does the right hon. Gentleman not think it is rather hard on the London rates that a special contribution should have to be made to the Police Fund, and would he consider if some arrangement should be made with other police authorities to prevent this deliberate recruitment of London-trained police?

Sir S. Hoare

I think that if there were any widespread recruitment of these men the position might have to be reconsidered, but I think that the number at present would not justify that reconsideration.

Mr. G. Strauss

Is the Minister aware that this means another £13,000 on the Police Fund?

Mr. De la Bère

Where are the Liberal party to-day?

Mr. G. Griffiths

At the B.B.C.

29. Sir P. Harris

asked the Home Secretary the number of police officers who have been trained by the Metropolitan Police during each of the last five years, and how many of these men are still serving with the Metropolitan Police?

Sir S. Hoare

As the answer includes a table of figures, I will, with the hon. Member's permission, circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPORT.

Following is the answer:

The numbers of men who have been trained by the Metropolitan Police during each of the last five years are as follow:

1933 … … … 509
1934 … … … 713
1935 … … … 766
1936 … … … 753
1937 … … … 1,121
Total … … 3,862

Approximately 3,200 of these men are still serving in the Metropolitan Police Force.