HC Deb 01 March 1938 vol 332 cc919-22
Mr. Attlee

May I ask the Prime Minister when the Debate on Defence will take place, and when we can expect a White Paper?

The Prime Minister

The Defence White Paper will be available in the Vote Office to-morrow, and I propose to allot Monday, 7th March, for a Debate on Defence as a whole.

Mr. Churchill

What is intended to be the procedure for conducting the Debate? Will a statement be made at the beginning on behalf of His Majesty's Government either by the Prime Minister or by the Minister for the Co-ordination of Defence?

The Prime Minister

I propose to begin by making a statement on behalf of His Majesty's Government.

Mr. Attlee

May I ask the Prime Minister how far it is proposed to go in the event of the Motion to suspend the Eleven o'clock Rule being carried?

The Prime Minister

We hope to make good progress with the Supplementary Estimates that are on the Paper, without asking the House to sit unduly late. We propose also to take the third Order, which is the Superannuation (Various Services) Bill, which should not last long. The House will appreciate that at this time of year consideration has to be given to the business of Supply and that a large number of Supplementary Estimates have to be considered. I hope that we shall make substantial progress to-day.

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 255; Noes, 112.

Division No. 111.] AYES. [3.42 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lt.-Cal. G. J. Chapman, A. (Rutherglen) Errington, E.
Adams, S. V. T. (Leeds, W.) Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston S. Evans, Capt. A. (Cardiff, S.)
Agnew, Lieut.-Comdr. P. G. Clarke, F. E. (Dartford) Evans, D. O. (Cardigan)
Albery, Sir Irving Clarke, Colonel R. S. (E. Grinstead) Everard, W. L.
Allen, Lt.-Col. Sir W. J. (Armagh) Clarry, Sir Reginald Fleming, E. L.
Anderson, Sir A. Garrett (C. of Ldn.) Colfax, Major W. P. Fox, Sir G. W. G.
Anstruther-Gray, W. J. Colman, N. C. D. Furness, S. N.
Assheton, R. Colville, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. D. J. Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir J.
Astor, Viscountess (Plymouth, Sutton) Conant, Captain R. J. E. Gluckstein, L. H.
Astor, Hon. W. W. (Fulham, E.) Cook, Sir T. R. A. M. (Norfolk, N.) Glyn, Major Sir R. G. C.
Baillie, Sir A. W. M. Cooke, J. D. (Hammersmith, S.) Goldie, N. B.
Baldwin-Webb, Col. J. Cooper, Rt. Hn. A. Duff (W'st'r S. G'gs) Graham, Captain A. C. (Wirral)
Balfour, Capt. H. H. (Isle of Thanet) Cooper, Rt. Hn. T. M. (E'nburgh, W.) Grant-Ferris, R.
Barrie, Sir C. C. Courthope, Col. Rt. Hon. Sir G. L. Granville E. L.
Baxter, A. Beverley Cox, H. B. Trevor Grattan-Doyle, Sir N.
Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. Croft, Brig.-Gen. Sir H. Page Greene, W. P. C. (Worcester)
Beaumont, Hon. R. E. B. (Portsm'h) Crooks, Sir J. S. Gridley, Sir A. B.
Bernays, R. H. Crookshank, Capt. H. F. C. Grigg, Sir E. W. M.
Birchall, Sir J. D. Cross, R. H. Grimston, R. V.
Bird, Sir R. B. Crossley, A. C. Guest, Lieut.-Colonel H. (Drake)
Blair, Sir R. Crowder, J. F. E. Guest, Hon. I. (Brecon and Radnor)
Boothby, R. J. G. Culverwell, C. T. Guinness, T. L. E. B.
Bossom, A. C. Davies, Major Sir G. F. (Yeovil) Gunston, Capt. Sir D. W.
Boulton, W. W. De Chair, S. S. Hacking, Rt. Hon. D. H.
Bower, Comdr. R. T. De la Bère, R. Hannah, I. C.
Boyce, H. Leslie Denman, Hon. R. D. Hannon, Sir P. J. H
Brass, Sir W. Denville, Alfred Harbord, A.
Briscoe, Capt. R. G. Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. Harvey, Sir G.
Brocklebank, Sir Edmund Doland, G. F. Harvey, T. E. (Eng. Univ's.)
Brown, Col. D. C. (Hexham) Duckworth, Arthur (Shrewsbury) Haslam, Henry (Horncastle)
Brown, Rt. Hon. E. (Leith) Duckworth, W. R. (Moss Side) Haslam, Sir J. (Bolton)
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Newbury) Dugdale, Captain T. L. Heilgers, Captain F. F. A.
Browne, A. C. (Belfast, W.) Duggan, H. J. Hely-Hutchinson, M. R.
Bull, B. B. Dunglass, Lord Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel A. P.
Bullock, Capt. M. Eastwood, J. F. Hepworth, J.
Butcher, H. W. Eckersley, P. T. Herbert, Major J. A. (Monmouth)
Butler, R. A. Edmondson, Major Sir J. Higgs, W. F.
Campbell, Sir E. T. Elliot, Rt. Hon. W. E. Hills, Major Rt. Hon. J. W. (Ripon)
Cary, R. A. Ellis, Sir G. Hoare, Rt. Hon. Sir S.
Cayzer, Sir C. W. (City of Chester) Elmley, Viscount Holmes, J. S.
Cazalet, Capt. V. A. (Chippenham) Emery, J. F. Hore-Belisha, Rt. Hon. L.
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. N. (Edgb't'n) Emmott, C. E. G. C. Horsbrugh, Florence
Channon, H. Emrys-Evans, P. V. Howitt, Dr. A. B.
Hndson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hack., N.) Muirhead, Lt.-Col. A. J. Shaw, Captain W. T. (Forfar)
Hudson, Rt. Hon. R. S. (Southpart) Neven-Spence, Major B. H. H. Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir J. A.
Hulbert, N. J. Nicholson, G. (Farnham) Smith, Bracewell (Dulwich)
Hunter, T. Nicolson, Hon. H. G. Smith, L. W. (Hallam)
Kurd, Sir P. A. Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. W. G. A. Smith, Sir R. W. (Aberdeen)
Jones, Sir H. Haydn (Merioneth) Orr-Ewing, I. L. Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Jones, L. (Swansea W.) Palmer, G. E. H. Spears, Brigadier-General E L.
Keeling, E. H. Patrick, C. M. Stanley, Rt. Hon. Lord (Fylde)
Karr, H. W. (Oldham) Parkins, W. R. D. Stewart, J. Henderson (File, E.)
Keyes, Admiral of the Fleet Sir R. Peters, Dr. S. J. Stourton, Major Hon. J. J.
Kimball, L. Petherick, M. Strauss, E. A. (Southwark, N.)
Knox, Major-General Sir A. W. F. Pickthorn, K. W. M. Strauss, H. G. (Norwich)
Lamb, Sir J. Q. Pilkington, R. Stuart, Lord C. Crichton- (N'thw'h)
Lambert, Rt. Hon. G. Plugge, Capt. L. F Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Law, Sir A. J. (High Peak) Porritt, R. W. Sueter, Rear-Admiral Sir M. F.
Leech, Sir J. W. Pownall, Lt.-Col. Sir Assheton Tasker, Sir R. I.
Lees-Jones, J. Radford, E. A. Tate, Mavis C.
Leighton, Major B. E. P. Ramsay, Captain A. H. M. Taylor, C. S. (Eastbourne)
Lennox-Boyd, A. T. L. Ramsbotham, H. Thomson, Sir J. D. W.
Liddall, W. S. Rankin, Sir R. Touche, G. C.
Lipson, D. L. Rathbone, Eleanor (English Univ's.) Train, Sir J.
Lloyd, G. W. Rathbone, J. R. (Bodmin) Tree, A. R. L. F.
Locker-Lampson, Comdr. O. S. Reed, A. C. (Exeter) Tryon, Major Rt. Hon. G. C.
Loftus, P. C. Reid, Sir D. D. (Down) Tufnell, Lieut.-Commander R. L.
Mabane, W. (Huddersfield) Raid, W. Allan (Derby) Turton, R. H.
M'Connell, Sir J. Rickards, G. W. (Skipton) Wakefield, W. W.
MacDonald, Rt. Mon. M. (Ross) Robinson, J. R. (Blackpool) Wallace, Capt. Rt. Hon. Euan
Macdonald, Capt. P. (Isle of Wight) Ropner, Colonel L. Ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull)
McEwen, Capt. J. H. F. Rosa Taylor, W. (Woodbridge) Waterhouse, Captain C.
McKie, J. H, Rowlands, G. Walt, Major G. S. Harvie
Maonamara, Capt. J. R. J. Royds, Admiral Sir P. M. R. Wayland, Sir W. A
Makins, Brig.-Gen. E. Ruggles-Brise, Colonel Sir E. A. Whiteley, Major J. P. (Buckingham)
Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. Russell, Sir Alexander Williams, H. G. (Croydon, S.)
Markham, S. F. Russell, R. J. (Eddisbury) Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Maxwell, Hon. S. A. Russell, S. H. M. (Darwen) Wilson, Lt.-Col. Sir A. T. (Hitchin)
Mayhew, Lt.-Col. J. Salmon, Sir I. Wise, A. R.
Mellor, Sir J. S. P. (Tamworth) Salter, Sir J. Arthur (Oxford U.) Withers, Sir J. J.
Mills, Sir F. (Leylon, E.) Samuel, M. R. A. Womersley, Sir W. J.
Milts, Major J. D. (Now Forest) Sanderson, Sir F. B. Wood, Hon. C. I. C.
Moore, Lieut.-Col. Sir T. C. R. Sandys, E. D. Young, A. S. L. (Partick)
Moreing, A. C. Sassoon, Rt. Hon. Sir P.
Morgan, R. H. Scott, Lord William TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Morrison, G. A. (Scottish Univ's.) Selley, H. R. Captain Hope and Mr. Munro.
NOES.
Adams, D. (Consett) Harris, Sir P. A. Pearson, A.
Adams, D. M. (Poplar, S.) Hayday, A. Pethick-Lawrence, Rt. Hon. F. W.
Adamson, W. M. Henderson, T. (Tradeston) Price, M. P.
Alexander, Rt. Hon. A. V. (H'lsbr.) Hills, A. (Pontefract) Pritt, D. N.
Ammon, C. G. Hollins, A, Richards, R. (Wrexham)
Attlee, Rt. Hon. C. R. Jagger, J. Ridley, G.
Banfield, J. W. Johnston, Rt. Hon. T. Riley, B.
Barnes, A. J. Jones, A. C. (Shipley) Ritson, J.
Barr, J. Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Roberts, W. (Cumberland, N.)
Batey, J. Kelly, W. T. Robinson. W. A. (St. Helens)
Bellenger, F. J. Kennedy, Rt. Hon. T. Rothschild, J. A. de
Benn, Rt. Hon. W. W. Kirby, B. V. Sexton, T. M.
Benson, G. Kirkwood, D. Shinwell, E.
Brown, C. (Mansfield) Lansbury, Rt. Hon. G. Silverman, S. S.
Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (S. Ayrshire) Leach, W. Simpson, F. B.
Buchanan, G. Lee, F. Sinclair, Rt. Hon. Sir A. (C'thn's)
Burke, W. A. Leonard, W. Smith, Ben (Rotherhithe)
Cape, T. Leslie, J. R. Smith, E. (Stoke)
Cluse, W. S. Logan, D. G. Smith, Rt. Hon. H. B. Lees- (K'ly)
Daggar, G. Lunn, W. Sorensen, R. W.
Davidson, J. J. (Maryhill) Macdonald, G. (Ince) Stephen, C.
Davies, R. J. (Westhoughton) McEntee, V. La T. Stewart, W. J. (H'ght'n-le-Sp'ng)
Davies, S. O. (Merthyr) McGhee, H. G. Strauss, G. R. (Lambeth, N.)
Day, H. MacLaren, A. Taylor, R. J. (Morpeth)
Dobbie, W. Maclean, N. Thurtle, E.
Dunn, E. (Rother Valley) MacMillan, M. (Western Isles) Tinker, J. J.
Ede, J. C. Mainwaring, W. H. Tomlinson, G.
Edwards, Sir C. (Bedwellty) Mander, G. le M. Viant, S. P.
Fletcher, Lt.-Comdr. R. T. H. Mathers, G. Walkden, A. G.
Frankel, D. Maxton, J. Walker, J.
Gallacher, W. Messer, F. Watson, W. McL.
Gardner, B. W. Milner, Major J. Westwood, J.
Garro Jones, G. M. Montague, F. Whiteley, W. (Blayden)
Green, W. H. (Deptford) Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Williams, T. (Don Valley)
Griffiths, G. A. (Hemsworth) Naylor, T. E. Windsor, W. (Hull, C.)
Guest, Dr. L. H. (Islington, N) Owen, Major G. Woods, G. S. (Finsbury)
Hall, J. H. (Whitechapel) Paling, W.
Hardie, Agnes Parker, J. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.
Mr. Groves and Mr. Charleton.

Question put, and agreed to.