HC Deb 22 November 1937 vol 329 cc856-8
72. Mr. Mainwaring

asked the Minister of Labour whether he will inform the House what commodities in which changes of price have taken place were given consideration by the Unemployment Assistance Board prior to issuing their Instruction in regard to supplementary allowances?

The Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Labour (Mr. Butler)

My right hon. Friend is informed by the Unemployment Assistance Board that they considered all the principal commodities which are ordinarily purchased by the households with which the Board is concerned. The extent to which there have been changes in price is shown in the tables published monthly in the Ministry of Labour Gazette.

Mr. Mainwaring

Are we to assume from that reply that the suggested increase in allowance is the correct measure of the increase in these commodity prices?

Mr. Butler

I think the hon. Gentleman may assume that the Board's action, which it is taking over this winter, will meet the difficulties of these families.

Mr. T. Smith

Is there any truth in the statement that in some areas supplementary allowances have been limited to a maximum of 2S. a week?

Mr. Butler

If the hon. Gentleman will refer to the Circular, a copy of which is in the Library, he will see that the Board has discretion in this matter.

Mr. A. Bevan

Does the hon. Gentleman contend that these are the special hardships which are met in the Instructions under which these officers act?

Mr. Butler

I am satisfied that the Instructions refer to the price of some commodities, together with the coming of the winter months.

Mr. Bevan

Is this not a violation of the Statute and ought not the House to be given an opportunity of reconsidering the scales as a whole?

Mr. Butler

No, Sir.

73. Mr. Mainwaring

asked the Minister of Labour whether, during the first review period the Unemployment Assistance Board will give special consideration to cases of households consisting of husband and wife whose total income consists of unemployment assistance?

Mr. Butler

The instructions given by the Board to their officers already make provision for this.

Mr. Mainwaring

Are we now to understand from that reply that all claims will be considered during this review period?

Mr. Butler

The hon. Gentleman put a specific case to me, and I have answered that that case is covered by the Board's instructions to its officers.

74. Mr. Mainwaring

asked the Minister of Labour whether he will inquire and inform the House what, in the opinion of the Unemployment Assistance Board, constitutes a household of normal size and composition?

Mr. Butler

The Board inform me that, in so far as the phrase is used in instructions to their officers the Unemployment Assistance Board intend it to apply to households the size and membership of which do not in themselves provide a ground for special consideration.

Mr. Mainwaring

As the phrase "household of normal size or composition" is used in the circular referred to by the hon. Gentleman, is it not in order for me to ask him to state, and should he not be compelled to state, what is meant by "household of normal composition"?

Mr. Butler

I think if the hon. Gentleman again reads the circular, he will see that certain provision is made for "households of normal size and composition." The circular then goes on to say that larger or smaller sums may be added where the circumstances of the case warrant.

Mr. Mainwaring

May I press my question? What is a household of normal composition?

Mr. Butler

The hon. Gentleman will realise that the Board has discretion in this matter, and its officers can exercise discretion on the advice of the advisory committees. I am satisfied that in cases of necessity the Board's officers will take the necessary steps.

Mr. Mainwaring

But as this phrase is used in the circular referred to by the Parliamentary Secretary, is it right and proper that the hon. Gentleman should seek to evade the question What is a household of normal composition?"