HC Deb 09 June 1937 vol 324 cc1731-7
1. Mr. Denville

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he is now in a position to inform the House regarding the activities of Mr. Cockburn, a British subject who is acting as assistant publicity agent for the Madrid Government?

The Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs (Mr.Eden)

I am informed that Mr. Cockburn is reported to have been recently at Valencia and Almeria. So far as I can ascertain, he has been engaged in Press and propaganda work on behalf of the Spanish Government.

Mr. Denville

Is it not a fact that Mr. Cockburn, in co-operation with a man called Greenspan, a Communist leader, is running the whole of the Madrid publicity which comes into this country?

Mr. Gallacher

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that, as was stated before, Mr. Cockburn is a good correspondent of a good paper, and is a better publicity agent than the Marquis del Moral?

3. Mr. Day

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will give particulars and state what progress has been made for the release of British prisoners in the hands of either General Franco or the Government forces in Spain?

4. Mr. Sorensen

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will ascertain the number of British subjects now held as prisoners of war in Spain by the insurgent and Government forces, respectively?

Mr. Eden

Twenty-three British prisoners were released by the insurgent authorities on 29th May. I understand that there are five British prisoners remaining in insurgent hands, and I have received unconfirmed reports of two or three further cases. Appropriate instructions have been sent to His Majesty's Ambassador at Hendaye in respect of all these cases. The Spanish Government have stated that, to the best of their knowledge, they hold no British prisoners.

Mr. Day

In view of statements made by released British prisoners, will the right hon. Gentleman consider approaching General Franco to see that more humanitarian measures are taken in the future?

Mr. Sorensen

Is the right lion. Gentleman aware that he did not answer my question? Will he, therefore, take steps to ascertain how many British subjects are prisoners on either side?

Mr. Eden

I have answered the question and given the information sought. I have said that 23 had been released on one side and that, perhaps, eight remained, while on the other side, as far as I know, there are none.

Mr. Macquisten

What are they doing there, anyhow? It is not their quarrel?

Mr. Noel-Baker

Why is General Franco discriminating between some of these prisoners and others?

Mr. Eden

I cannot say. All I know is that 23 have been released, and naturally we hope the others will be released also. In fact, I think more British prisoners, in proportion, have been released than prisoners of other nationalities.

Mr. Arthur Henderson

May we take it that those who remain in the hands of General Franco, are not being kept as hostages?

Mr. Eden

Not as far as I know.

6. Mr. A. Henderson

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether any agreement between His Majesty's Government and the French, German, and Italian Governments as to the form and nature of the naval control to operate off the coast of Spain for the purposes of the Non-Intervention Agreement will be submitted to the Non-Intervention Committee for their approval before such agreement becomes operative?

Mr. Eden

The exchanges of views which are at present taking place, with the full knowledge and approval of the Non-Intervention Committee, between His Majesty's Government and the three Governments referred to are concerned with the guarantees which might be obtained from the two parties in the Spanish conflict in order to enable the work of naval patrol which has been delegated to these four Governments to be restored to full operation, thus permitting the Committee to resume its work. Should any proposals be made in the course of this exchange of views which would involve modification of the scheme of observation itself they would, so far as His Majesty's Government are concerned, be a matter for consideration by the Committee.

Mr. Henderson

When does the right hon. Gentleman expect to be in a position to make a statement on these negotiations?

Mr. Eden

I could not say.

Mr. T. Williams

Will any proposals made by Italy, Germany or France to the contending parties in Spain, be submitted first to the Non-Intervention Committee?

Mr. Eden

I think the hon. Gentleman will find that my answer covers that point. It depends, of course, on the nature of the proposals.

Miss Rathbone

Will Parliament also be given an opportunity of expressing its opinion of the proposals and of satisfying itself that precautions are being taken against a repetition of abuses of their position by German and Italian war vessels?

Mr. Wedgwood Benn

Will the right hon. Gentleman give a definite pledge to the House, that in no circumstances will the British Government consent in any form to the right of private retaliation by any of the parties concerned?

Mr. Eden

We accept, of course, and have always accepted, the right of self-defence. We have never subscribed to the right of retaliation.

Miss Rathbone

Will the right hon. Gentleman reply to my question?

8. Sir Nicholas Grattan-Doyle

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether his attention has been called to the recent visit of the Dean of Canterbury and other Church dignitaries to Spain; whether he was consulted prior to the visit being undertaken; whether any report was submitted to him in regard to it; whether His Majesty's Government contributed any portion of the expenses relating thereto; and whether, in view of the public statement made jointly by the three distinguished Church members of the delegation that their expenses were paid, he can give any indication of the source from which funds were obtained and whether they were provided by the Spanish Government?

Mr. Eden

My information is that this visit took place as the result of an invitation from the Spanish Government. The members of the party did not consult His Majesty's Government as to the desirability or otherwise of this invitation being accepted. They submitted no report to me. I have no information as to the source from which funds for the visit were obtained, but no portion of the expenses was contributed by His Majesty's Government.

Sir N. Grattan-Doyle

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the statements contained in that report have since been proved to be without foundation—

Mr. Speaker

The hon. Member seems to be giving information.

Sir N. Grattan-Doyle

May I finish my question?

Mr. Speaker

Not if it is a continuation of the information.

Sir N. Grattan-Doyle

It is not. Is the right hon. Gentleman also aware that these statements have been repudiated by the Bishop of Gibraltar on behalf of the Anglican Church?

Sir William Davison

Is my right hon. Friend aware that the Dean proposes to repeat these statements at a mass meeting in Strasbourg?

Sir N. Grattan-Doyle

I beg to give notice that on account of the unsatisfactory nature of the reply, I will raise this question on the Adjournment on the first available opportunity.

10. Mr. Mander

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will give an assurance that any action agreed upon between Great Britain, France, Germany, and Italy with regard to consultations and joint action in the event of further incidents off the coasts of Spain will be in accordance with the terms of the Kellogg Pact that the settlement or solution of disputes shall never be sought except by pacific means?

Mr. Eden

His Majesty's Government will certainly continue to bear in mind that the terms of the Pact of Paris are binding upon the four Governments referred to no less than upon the Spanish Government.

Mr. Mander

Has any guarantee been asked of the German Government against any further invasion of Spain?

12. Mr. Noel-Baker

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he can make a statement concerning the progress of negotiations for the withdrawal of foreign troops from Spain?

Mr. Eden

I have nothing at present to add to the answer which I gave to the hon. Member on Wednesday last.

Mr. Noel-Baker

If we understand that there is a scheme which is actually in existence, could the right hon. Gentleman tell us from what Powers opposition to its immediate application has come?

Mr. Eden

From no Power. There is no opposition to its immediate application, but the hon. Gentleman will be aware of the difficulties which we are considering in connection with another matter.

Mr. Mander

Can the right hon. Gentleman say anything about the statement that 300 Germans have recently returned from Spain to Germany?

Mr. Eden

I have seen that statement, and I believe it to be accurate.

Mr. Macquisten

Is not the return of 23 British prisoners a partial repatriation of foreign troops from Spain?

13. Mr. Noel-Baker

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he can give the House any information concerning recent despatches of Italian troops from Italy to Spain?

Mr. Eden

No reports have been received by the Non-Intervention Board regarding arrivals of Italian combatants in Spain since the system of observation of the Spanish frontiers came into force.

Miss Wilkinson

Do we understand therefore that the gentlemen who have arrived in Spain have added to the already large numbers in Spain?

Mr. Noel-Baker

Will the right hon. Gentleman instruct his consular representatives to make the most careful reports on this matter?

Mr. Eden

We have got a patrol at work, most of which is being done in that area by His Majesty's ships.

Mr. Denville

Is it considered fair that the right hon. Gentleman should be asked to give information to the Spanish Government on the movement of Franco's troops?

18. Mr. Bellenger

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether an estimate of the cost of the damage to His Majesty's Ship "Hunter" has been prepared; and whether any pensions will be paid to the dependants of those who lost their lives in this tragedy?

The First Lord of the Admiralty (Mr. Duff Cooper)

As regards the first part of the question, I would refer the hon. Member to the answer given yesterday by my hon. and gallant Friend the Civil Lord to the hon. Member for Derby (Mr. Noel-Baker). In answer to the second part of the question, deaths resulting from this occurrence are accepted as attributable to the Service, and pensions will accordingly be paid to all dependants who are entitled to receive them.

Mr. Bellenger

Will the whole of the pension cost fall on the British taxpayer, or will any claim be made in another quarter?

Mr. Cooper

The hon. Member was informed yesterday that the question of claims on another quarter has not yet been taken up. We made a protest, and we await a reply to that protest. In the natural course of events, of course, all pensions for dependants will fall on the Exchequer.

Mr. Bellenger

In view of that last statement, can the right hon. Gentleman say whether the question of making a claim elsewhere is under consideration by His Majesty's Government?

Mr. Cooper

It certainly will be considered in due course, but it is not under consideration at the present time. The matter has not yet reached that stage.

Miss Wilkinson

Has the right hon. Gentleman not yet made any payment to the men who lost their baggage and other necessities in the explosion? I have received word from them that they have received no compensation whatsoever.

Mr. Cooper

That hardly arises out of this question, but I will look into the matter.