HC Deb 04 February 1937 vol 319 cc1778-83
Mr. Attlee

May I ask the Prime Minister what Orders the Government propose to take to-day in the event of the Motion on the Paper being carried; and will he also be good enough to say what will be the business for next week?

The Prime Minister

We are moving to suspend the Eleven o'Clock Rule in order to get the Committee and remaining stages of the Regency Bill, the Second Reading of the British Shipping (Continuance of Subsidy) Bill, and the Committee stage of the Statutory Salaries Money Resolution. There are a number of Orders, Nos. 3 to 8, which we should like to obtain, as well as the Committee stage of the Diseases of Fish Money Resolution; but I do not propose to ask the House to sit late; we shall go as far as we can.

The business for next week will be as follows:

Monday: Consideration of Supplementary Estimates in Committee, beginning with Board of Education, Public Education (Scotland) and Special Areas Reconstruction Association. The Supplementary Estimates will be available in the Vote Office this evening.

Tuesday: Second Reading of the Reserve Forces Bill—copies of the Bill will be available in the Vote Office early this evening, and will be circulated to-morrow morning in the usual way; further consideration of Supplementary Estimates.

Wednesday: Private Members' Motions. This will be the last Private Member's Motion day.

Thursday: Factories Bill, Second Reading. We propose to allot two days to that discussion. The second day will probably be, though I do not commit myself to it, the Monday of the week following.

Friday: Private Members' Bills.

During the week, as opportunity offers, other Orders will be taken.

Mr. Attlee

With regard to the Supplementary Estimates, I understand that the Estimate for the Board of Education will deal with expenditure with reference to the Government's plans for physical training. In view of the fact that the Bill has not yet been presented, no discussion can take place on it, and I should like to ask whether there will be a White Paper to give us an opportunity of discussing that policy?

The Prime Minister

I understand that there will be a White Paper with the Votes. With regard to the point mentioned by the right hon. Gentleman, of course it must be for the Chair to say how wide the discussion may be, but I appreciate the point, and I note it. Supposing that it should not be possible under the Rules to allow as wide a Debate as the House would like, I will consider what opportunities may exist for a full discussion on the subject.

Mr. Attlee

The right hon. Gentleman will realise that, without the full policy, it will be practically impossible to discuss this particular Supplementary Estimate. May I further ask him, with regard to the Supplementary Estimate for the Special Areas Reconstruction Association, whether a White Paper can be issued? We have no information as to the activities of the association.

The Prime Minister

I am afraid I am not familiar with that matter, but will look into it. I cannot say more, because it is a new point.

Mr. Maxton

Can the Prime Minister give us any idea of the scope of the Reserve Forces Bill? This is the first time I have heard its name, and it seems to me to be rather rushing things to intimate that the Second Reading will be taken on Tuesday.

The Prime Minister

It is a single-Clause Bill, and it will be available this evening.

Mr. Attlee

Does the right hon. Gentleman realise the inconvenience to the House of having these matters put before it at short notice, without opportunity for consideration? Further, may I ask when we are to get the text of the proposals of the Government with regard to the major Measures outlined in the King's Speech—the Special Areas Bill, the Mining Royalties Bill and the Coal Mines Reconstruction Bill?

The Prime Minister

I am sorry I cannot give definite dates to-day, but I am just as anxious to introduce these Bills as the right hon. Gentleman is to welcome them. It will be at an early date, but I do not want to commit myself.

Mr. R. C. Morrison

In view of the fact that next Wednesday is the last private Members' day, would the right hon. Gentleman consider the suggestion that he should announce the business for the following week on Wednesday instead of Thursday?

The Prime Minister

Thursday is by common custom the day on which it is done, and I am sure if it were changed to Wednesday a number of Members would suggest Tuesday.

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting. from the provisions of the Standing Order(Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 226; Noes, 118.

Division No. 69.] AYES. [3.50 p.m.
Agnew, Lieut.-Comdr. P. G. Emmott, C. E. G. C. Neven-Spence, Major B. H. H.
Albery, Sir Irving Emrys-Evans, P. V. O'Connor, Sir Terence J.
Allen, Lt.-Col. J. Sandeman (B'kn'hd) Entwistle, Sir C. F. Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. W. G. A.
Anderson, Sir A. Garrett (C. of Ldn.) Errington, E. Orr-Ewing, I. L.
Anstruther-Gray, W. J. Evans, Capt. A. (Cardiff, S.) Patrick, C. M.
Apsley, Lord Everard, W. L. Peake, O.
Aske, Sir R. W. Fildes, Sir H. Peat, C. U.
Assheton, R. Fox, Sir G. W. G. Peters, Dr. S. J.
Astor, Hon. W. W. (Fulham, E.) Fremantle, Sir F. E. Petherick, M.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Furness, S. N. Pickthorn, K. W. M.
Baldwin-Webb, Col. J. Ganzoni, Sir J. Pilkington, R.
Barclay-Harvey, Sir C. M. Gilmour, Lt.-Cal. Rt. Hon. Sir J. Porritt, R. W.
Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. Gluckstein, L. H. Pownall, Lt.-Col. Sir Assheton
Beaumont, Hon. R. E. B. (Portsm'h) Glyn, Major Sir R. G. C. Procter, Major H. A.
Beit, Sir A. L. Graham, Captain A. C. (Wirral) Radford, E. A.
Bennett, Capt. Sir E. N. Gretton, Col. Rt. Hon. J. Ramsbotham, H.
Blair, Sir R. Gridley, Sir A. B. Rathbone, J. R. (Bodmin)
Blindell, Sir J. Grimston, R. V. Rawson, Sir Cooper
Boulton, W. W. Guy, J. C. M. Rayner, Major R. H.
Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart Hanbury, Sir C. Reid, Sir D. D. (Down)
Bower, Comdr. R. T. Haslam, Sir J. (Bolton) Reid, W. Allan (Derby)
Bowyer, Capt. Sir G. E. W. Heilgers, Captain F. F. A. Ropner, Colonel L.
Boyce, H. Leslie Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel A. P. Ross, Major Sir R. D. (Londonderry)
Briscoe, Capt. R. G. Hepburn, P. G. T. Buchan Ross Taylor, W. (Woodbridge)
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Hepworth, J. Rowlands, G.
Brown, Rt. Hon. E. (Leith) Herbert, Major J. A. (Monmouth) Russell, A. West (Tynemouth)
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Newbury) Hills, Major Rt. Hon. J. W. (Ripon) Russell, S. H. M. (Darwen)
Browne, A. C. (Belfast, W.) Hoare, Rt. Hon. Sir S. Salmon, Sir I.
Bull, B. B. Hope, Captain Hon. A. O. J. Samuel, M. R. A. (Putney)
Bullook, Capt. M. Hore-Belisha, Rt. Hon. L. Sandeman, Sir N. S.
Burgin, Dr. E. L. Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hack., N.) Sanderson, Sir F. B.
Burton, Col. H. W. Hudson, R. S. (Southport) Sandys, E. D.
Butler, R. A. Hulbert, N. J. Sassoon, Rt. Hon. Sir P.
Campbell, Sir E. T. Hunter, T. Savery, Sir Servington
Gary, R. A. Inskip, Rt. Hon. Sir T. W. H. Scott, Lord William
Cayzer, Sir H. R. (Portsmouth, S.) Keeling, E. H. Selley, H. R.
Cazalet, Thelma (Islington, E.) Kerr, H. W. (Oldham) Shaw, Major P. S. (Wavertree)
Cazalet, Capt. V. A. (Chippenham) Kerr, J. Graham (Scottish Univs.) Shepperson, Sir E. W.
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. N. (Edgb't'n) Keyes, Admiral of the Fleet Sir R. Simmonds, O. E.
Channon, H. Kimball, L. Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir J. A
Chapman, A. (Rutherglen) Lamb, Sir J. Q. Smiles, Lieut.-Colonel Sir W. D.
Chapman, Sir S. (Edinburgh, S.) Lambert, Rt. Hon. G. Smith, Bracewell (Dulwich)
Clarke, F. E. Law, Sir A. J. (High Peak) Smith, Sir R. W. (Aberdeen)
Clarke, Lt.-Col. R. S. (E. Grinstead) Law, R. K. (Hull, S.W.) Smithers, Sir W.
Clarry, Sir Reginald Leckie, J. A. Southby, Commander A. R. J.
Clydesdale, Marquess of Lees-Jones, J. Stanley, Rt. Hon. Lord (Fylde)
Colville, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. D. J. Leigh, Sir J. Stanley, Rt. Hon. Oliver (W'm'l'd)
Cooke, J. D. (Hammersmith, S.) Leighton, Major B. E. P. Stewart, J. Henderson (Fife, E.)
Cooper, Rt. Hn. A. Duff (W'st'r S.G'gs) Lennox-Boyd, A. T. L. Storey, S.
Cooper, Rt. Hn. T. M. (E'nburgh, W.) Levy, T. Stourton, Major Hon. J. J.
Courtauld, Major J. S. Liddall, W. S. Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Courthope, Col. Sir G. L. Llewellin, Lieut.-Col. J. J. Sueter, Rear-Admiral Sir M. F.
Cranborne, Viscount Lloyd, G. W. Sutcliffe, H.
Croft, Brig.-Gen. Sir H. Page Locker-Lampson, Comdr. O. S. Taylor, C. S. (Eastbourne)
Crooke, J. S. Lumley, Capt. L. R. Taylor, Vice-Adm. E. A. (Padd., S.)
Crookshank, Capt. H. F. C. Mabane, W. (Huddersfield) Train, Sir J.
Cross, R. H. MacAndrew, Colonel Sir C. G. Tree, A. R. L. F.
Crowder, J. F. E. M'Connell, Sir J. Tryon, Major Rt. Hon. G. C.
Davies, Major Sir G. F. (Yeovil) McCorquodale, M. S. Tufnell, Lieut.-Commander R. L.
Davison, Sir W. H. MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Scot. U.) Turton, R. H.
De Chair, S. S. Macdonald, Capt. P. (Isle of Wight) Walker-Smith, Sir J.
De la Bère, R. McEwen, Capt. J. H. F. Ward, Irene M. B. (Wallsend)
Denman, Hon. R. D. McKie, J. H. Wedderburn, H. J. S.
Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F Macnamara, Capt. J. R. J. Wells, S. R.
Doland, G. F. Makins, Brig.-Gen. E. Williams, C. (Torquay)
Donner, P. W. Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. Williams, H. G. (Croydon, S.)
Dorman-Smith, Major R. H. Markham, S. F. Wilson, Lt.-Col. Sir A. T. (Hitchin)
Duckworth, G. A. V. (Salop) Maxwell, Hon. S. A. Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Dugdale, Major T. L. Mayhew, Lt.-Col. J. Womersley, Sir W. J.
Duggan, H. J. Mellor, Sir J. S. P. (Tamworth) Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Duncan, J. A. L. Mills, Sir F. (Leyton, E.) Wright, Squadron-Leader J. A. C.
Dunglass, Lord Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Young, A. S. L. (Partick)
Dunne, P. R. R. Morgan, R. H.
Edmondson, Major Sir J. Morris-Jones, Sir Henry TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Elliot, Rt. Hon. W. E. Morrison, G. A. (Scottish Univ's.) Sir George Penny and Lieut-
Ellis, Sir G. Morrison, Rt. Hon. W. S. (Cirencester) Colonel Sir A. Lambert-Ward.
Elmley, Viscount Munro, P.
NOES.
Acland, R. T. D. (Barnstaple) Griffiths, G. A. (Hemsworth) Riley, B.
Adams, D. M, (Poplar, S.) Griffiths, J. (Llanelly) Ritson, J.
Adamson, W. M, Hall, G. H. (Aberdare) Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Brom.)
Ammon, C. G. Hall, J. H. (Whitechapel) Roberts, W. (Cumberland, N.)
Anderson, F. (Whitehaven) Harris, Sir P. A. Robinson, W. A. (St. Helens)
Attlee, Rt. Hon. C. R. Henderson, A. (Kingswinford) Rowson, G.
Barnes, A. J. Henderson, J. (Ardwick) Salter, Dr. A.
Barr, J. Henderson, T. (Tradeston) Sanders, W. S.
Batey, J. Hicks, E. G. Seely, Sir H. M.
Bellenger, F. J. Hopkin, D. Sexton, T. M.
Benson, G. Jagger, J. Shinwell, E.
Brooke, W. Jenkins, A. (Pontypool) Short, A.
Brown, C. (Mansfield) John, W. Silverman, S. S.
Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (S. Ayrshire) Jones, A. C. (Shipley) Simpson, F. B.
Cape, T. Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Sinclair, Rt. Hon. Sir A. (C'thn's)
Cassells, T. Kelly, W. T. Smith, Ben (Rotherhithe)
Charleton, H. C. Kennedy, Rt. Hon. T. Smith, E. (Stoke)
Cluse, W. S. Lathan, G. Smith, Rt. Hon. H. B. Lees (K'ly)
Clynes, Rt. Hon. J. R. Lawson, J. J. Sorensen, R. W.
Cocks, F. S. Lee, F. Stewart, W. J. (H'ght'n-le-Sp'ng)
Dalton, H. Leonard, W. Strauss, G. R. (Lambeth, N.)
Davies, R. J. (Westhoughton) Logan, D. G. Taylor, R. J. (Morpeth)
Day, H. Lunn, W. Thorne, W.
Dobbie, W. Macdonald, G. (Ince) Thurtle, E.
Dunn, E. (Rother Valley) McEntee, V. La T. Tinker, J. J.
Ede, J. C. McGhee, H. G. Viant, S. P.
Edwards, A. (Middlesbrough E.) Maclean, N. Walkden, A. G.
Edwards, Sir C. (Bedwellty) Mander, G. le M. Walker, J.
Evans, D. O. (Cardigan) Mathers, G. Watkins, F. C.
Evans, E. (Univ. of Wales) Maxton, J. Watson, W. McL.
Fletcher, Lt.-Comdr. R. T. H. Messer, F. Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. J. C.
Gallacher, W. Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Welsh, J. C.
Gardner, B. W. Muff, G. Williams, E. J. (Ogmore)
George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) Naylor, T. E. Williams, T. (Don Valley)
Gibbins, J. Parkinson, J. A. Wilson, C. H. (Attercliffe)
Gibson, R. (Greenock) Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. Windsor, W. (Hull, C.)
Green, W. H. (Deptford) Potts, J. Woods, G. S. (Finsbury)
Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. Pritt, D. N. Young, Sir R. (Newton)
Grenfell, D. R. Quibell, D. J. K.
Griffith, F. Kingsley (M'ddl'sbro, W.) Richards, R. (Wrexham) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Mr. Whlteley and Mr. Groves.

Bill read the Third time, and passed.