HC Deb 18 November 1936 vol 317 cc1772-3
17. Mr. RHYS DAVIES

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he is aware that employers in Rhodesia are enticing natives from Nyasaland to proceed to that territory to work and that some of the promises made by their would-be employers Are not being implemented, with dire results to some of those natives; and will he take steps to remedy this state of things?

Mr. ORMSBY-GORE

While I have no knowledge of any cases of individual employers enticing labourers from Nyasaland, I am aware that large numbers of such natives seek work in Rhodesia and steps have already been taken to inquire into the conditions of employment of Nyasaland natives in Rhodesia. A senior administrative officer in the Nyasaland Government service has been instructed to visit Southern Rhodesia and to report on the position.

Mr. MACQUISTEN

Is my right hon. Friend aware that there is no place in the British Empire where labour, both white and coloured, is treated with greater humanity and consideration than in Southern Rhodesia?

Mr. ORMSBY-GORE

I have no reason to suppose that the labour conditions in Southern Rhodesia are subject to any serious trouble, but we have had a disquieting report of the number of Nyasaland natives leaving the country, particularly Northern Nyasaland, and it is equally important to know what is happening to those Nyasaland natives in other people's territory.

Mr. MACQUISTEN

Is it not because the terms of employment in Southern Rhodesia are so good; and will my right hon. Friend accept my view, as I have been out there?

Mr. ORMSBY-GORE

It is true that in Northern Rhodesia there is considerable mining development, and, of course, far higher wages are paid to natives working in mines than to those who work on farms or in agricultural employment.

Mr. DUNCAN

Is my right hon. Friend sure that the disquieting report comes from Southern Rhodesia and not from Northern Rhodesia?

Mr. ORMSBY-GORE

The disquieting report comes from Nyasaland itself as to the unduly large number of Nyasaland natives who are leaving the country And leaving their womenfolk and the old people unattended.

Mr. MACQUISTEN

Is it not because the conditions are so good?

21. Mr. E. J. WILLIAMS (for Mr. LUNN)

asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies in view of the wide questions raised on the matter of migrant labour by the Nyasaland Commission, whether he will withhold his approval of the provisional agreement on migrant native labour concluded between the Governments of Northern and Southern Rhodesia and Nyasaland until he has had an opportunity of receiving representations from persons interested in native welfare?

Mr. ORMSBY-GORE

I have already informed the Governors of Northern Rhodesia and Nyasaland that I propose to withhold my definite sanction of the provisional agreement until I have received and considered any public comments thereon.