HC Deb 03 March 1936 vol 309 cc1199-203

Can the Prime Minister tell us the subject of the Debate on Thursday, and also how far he intends to go this evening?


With regard to the business for to-day, we hope to get the Committee stage of the British Shipping Bill. The business for Thursday is the Report stage of the Civil Vote on Account, and the matters which, I understand, are going to be raised are questions affecting civil liberties, the administration of the police, and other Home Office matters.


In view of the continual suspension of the 11 o'Clock Rule, will the right hon. Gentleman consider a revision of ale Standing Order so as to make the House meet earlier in the day in order that business may be taken at a proper time?


Before I do that I should suggest to the House that they should surrender Private Members' days.


Does the right hon. Gentleman consider it in the interests of hon. Members that the Committee stage of this important Bill should be taken after 11 o'clock to-night?


The House is quite aware of my views on this matter, and I would remind hon. Members that with regard to the Bill there was a full discussion on Second Reading which did not last the whole of the day; the subject

was exhausted by nine o'clock. Having regard to the fact that there are only two Amendments to the Bill I am not unreasonable, in the present position of business, in asking the House to be good enough to take the Committee stage to-night.


Is it not the case that the Second Reading of the Bill ended at nine o'clock by arrangement, because Government representatives had to go somewhere else after that hour?


Is it not the case that private Members are only getting the ordinary time they have had in previous Parliaments? Is it not due to bad management on the part of the Government that there is occasion for an alteration in the time of the meeting of the House?


The hon. Member must bear in mind that Ministers have some work to do outside the House.


Will the right hon. Gentleman be in a position tomorrow to give the considered views of the Government with regard to the Motion I shall move, with the permission of Mr. Speaker, that the question of the number of Under-Secretaries in the Government should be referred to the Committee of Privileges?


I must have notice of that question.

Motion made, and Question put, That this day, notwithstanding anything in Standing Order No. 14, Business other than the Business of Supply may be taken before Eleven of the clock and that the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 282; Noes, 140.

Division No. 82.] AYES. [3.50 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lt.-Col. G. J. Baxter. A. Beverley Boyce, H. Leslie
Agnew, Lieut.-Comdr. F. G. Beit, Sir A. L. Brass, Sir W.
Albery, I. J. Bernays, R. H. Briscoe, Capt. R. G.
Anderson, Sir A. Garrett (C. of Ldn.) Birchall, Sir J. D. Brocklebank C. E. R.
Anstruther-Gray, W. J. Blair, Sir R. Brown, Rt. Hon. E (Leith)
Aske, Sir R. W. Blaker, Sir R. Brown, Brig -Gen. H. C. (Newbury)
Assheton, R. Blindell, Sir J. Bull, B. B.
Astor, Major Hon. J. J. (Dover) Boothby, R. J. G. Bullock, Capt. M.
Astor, visc'tess (Plymouth, Sutton) Borodale, viscount Burghley, Lord
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Bossom, A. C. Burgin, Dr. E. L.
Balfour, Capt. H. H. (Isle of Thanet) Boulton, W. W. Butt, Sir A.
Balniel, Lord Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart Campbell, Sir E. T.
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Bower, Comdr. R. T. Cartland, R. H.
Carver, Major W. H. Gunston, Capt. D. W. Raikes, H. V. A. M.
Cary, R. A. Guy, J. C. M. Ramsay, Captain A. H. M.
Castlereagh, Viscount Hacking, Rt. Hon. D. H. Ramsbotham, H.
Cautley, Sir H. S. Hannah, I. C. Ramsden, Sir E.
Cazalet, Thelma (Islington, E.) Hannon, Sir P. J. H. Rathbone, J. R. (Bodmin)
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord Hugh Hellgers, Captain F. F. A. Rayner, Major R. H.
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. Sir A. (Br.W.) Hepburn, P. G. T. Buchan. Reed, A. C. (Exeter)
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. N. (Edgb't'n) Hepworth, J. Reid, Sir D. D. (Down)
Channon, H. Herbert, Major J. A. (Monmouth) Remer, J.
Chapman, A. (Rutherglen) Hills, Major Rt. Hon. J. W. (Ripon) Rickards, G. W. (Skipton)
Chapman, Sir S. (Edinburgh, S.) Holmes, J. S. Robinson,.1. R. (Blackpool)
Chorlton, A. E. L. Horsbrugh, Florence Ropner, Colonel L.
Christie, J. A, Howitt, Dr. A. B. Ross Taylor, W. (Woodbridge)
Clarke, F. E. Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hack., N.) Rowlands, G.
Cobb, Sir C. S. Hulbert, N. J. Ruggles-Brise, Colonel Sir E. A.
Colfax, Major W. P. Hunter, T. Runclman. Rt. Hon. W.
Collins, Rt. Hon. Sir G. P. James, Wing-Commander A. W Russell, A. West (Tynemouth)
Colman, N. C. D. Jarvis, Sir J. J. Russell, R. J. (Eddisbury)
Colville, Lt.-Col. D. J. Jones, L. (Swansea, W.) Salmon, Sir I.
Cook, T. R. A. M. (Norfolk, N.) Keeling, E. H. Salt, E. W.
Cooke, J. D. (Hammersmith, S.) Kerr, H. W. (Oldham) Samuel, Sir A. M. (Farnham)
Cooper, Rt. Hn. A. Duff(W'st'r S. G'gs) Kerr, J. Graham (Scottish Univs.) Samuel, M. R. A. (Putney)
Cooper, Rt. Hn. T. M. (E'burgh, W.) Kirkpatrick, W. M. Sanderson, Sir F. B.
Courthope, Col. Sir G. L. Lamb, Sir. J. Q. Sandys, E. D.
Cranborne, Viscount Latham, Sir P. Savery, Servington
Croft, Brig.-Gen. Sir H. Page Law, R. K. (Hull, S. W.) Scott, Lord William
Crooke. J. S. Leckie, J. A Shakespeare, G. H.
Crookshank, Capt. H. F. C. Leech, Dr. J. W. Shaw, Major P. S. (Wavertree)
Cross, R. H. Lees-Jones, J. Shute, Colonel Sir J. J.
Crossley, A. C. Leigh, Sir J. Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir J. A.
Crowder, J. F, E. Leighton, Major B. E. P. Smith, L. W. (Hallam)
Culverwell, C. T. Levy, T. Smith, Sir R. W. (Aberdeen)
Davidson, Rt. Hon. Sir J. C. C. Lewis, O. Somervell, Sir D. B. (Crewe)
Davies, Major G. F. (Yeovil) Lindsay, K. M. Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Davison, Sir W. H. Llewellin, Lieut.-Col. J. J. Spender-Clay, Lt.-Cl. Rt. Hn. H. H.
De Chair, S. S. Lloyd, G. W. Stanley, Rt. Hon. Lord (Fylde)
De la Bère, R. Locker-Lampson, Comdr. O. S. Stewart, J. Henderson (Fife, E.)
Denman, Hon. R. D. Loder, Captain Hon. J. de V. Storey, S.
Denville, Alfred Loftus, P. C. Stourton, Hon. J. J.
Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. Mabane, W. (Huddersfield) Strauss, E. A. (Southwark, N.)
Dodd, J. S. MacAndrew, Lt.-Col. Sir C. G. Strickland, Captain W. F.
Donner, P. W. MacDonald, Rt. Hn. J. R. (Scot. U.) Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Dorman-Smith, Major R. H. MacDonald, Sir Murdoch (Inverness) Sueter, Rear-Admiral Sir M. F.
Dower, Capt. A. V. G. Macdonald, Capt. P. (Isle of Wight) Sutcliffe, H.
Drewe, C. McEwen, Capt. H. J. F. Tate, Mavis C.
Duckworth, W. R. (Moss Side) McKie, J. H. Taylor, C. S. (Eastbourne)
Dugdale, Major T. L. Maclay, Hon. J. P. Taylor, Vice-Adm. E. A. (Padd., S.)
Duggan. H. J. Macnamara, Capt. J. R. J. Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Duncan, J. A. L. Magnay, T. Thomas, J. P. L. (Hereford)
Dunglass, Lord Maitland, A. Thomson, Sir J. D. W.
Dunne, P. R. R. Makins, Brig.-Gen. E. Titchfleld, Marquess of
Eckersley, P. T. Manningham-Buller, Sir M. Touche, G. C.
Edmondson, Major Sir J. Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. Train, Sir J.
Elliot, Rt. Hon. W. E. Maxwell, S. A. Tree, A. R. L. F.
Ellis. Sir G. Mayhew, Lt.-Col. J. Tufnell, Lieut.-Com. R. L.
Elliston, G. S. Mills, Sir F. (Leyton, E.) Turton, R. H.
Elmley, Viscount Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest) Wakefield, W. W.
Emmott. C. E. G. C. Mitchell, Sir W. Lana (Streatham) Walker-Smith, Sir J.
Emrys-Evans, P. V. Morgan, R. H. Ward, Irene (Wallsend)
Entwistle, C. F. Morrison, G. A. (Scottish Univ's.) Warrender, Sir V.
Everard, W. L. Muirhead, Lt.-Col. A. J. Waterhouse, Captain C.
Findlay, Sir E. Munro, P. M. Wayland, Sir W. A.
Fox, Sir G. W. G. Nicolson, Hon. H. G. Wedderburn, H. J. S.
Furness, S. N. O'Neill, Major Rt. Hon. Sir Hugh Wells, S. R.
Ganzoni, Sir J. Ormsby-Gore, Rt, Hon. W. G. Williams, H G. (Croydon, S.)
Gilmour. Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir J. Orr-Ewing, I. L. Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Gluckstein, L. H. Palmer, G. E. H. Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel G.
Glyn, Major Sir R. G. C. Patrick, C. M. Wise, A. R.
Goodman, Col. A. W. Peat, C. U. Womersley, Sir W. J.
Graham Captain A. C. (Wirral) Petherick, M. Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Granville, E. L. Pickthorn, K. W. M. Wragg, H.
Gretton, Col. Rt. Hon. J. Pilkington, R.
Gridley, Sir A. B. Plugge, L. F. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Grimston, R. V. Ponsonby, Col. C. E. Sir George Penny and Lieut.-Colone
Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. F. E. (Drake) Porritt, R. W. Sir A. Lambert Ward.
Guinness, T. L. E. B. Pownall, Sir A. Assheton
Acland, R. T, D. (Barnstaple) Banfield, J. W. Broad, F. A.
Adams, D. (Consett) Barnes, A. J. Bromfield, W.
Adamson, W. M. Barr, J. Brooke, W.
Ammon. C. G. Batey, J. Brown, C. (Mansfield)
Anderson, F. (Whitehaven) Benson, G. Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (S. Ayrshire)
Attlee, Rt. Hon. C. R. Bevan, A. Buchanan, G.
Burke, W. A. John, W. Riley, B.
Cape, T. Johnston, Rt. Hon. T. Ritson, J.
Charleton, H. C. Jones, A. C. (Shipley) Roberts, W. (Cumberland, N.)
Chater, D. Jones, H. Haydn (Merioneth) Robinson. W. A. (St. Helens)
Cluse, W. S. Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Rothschild, J. A. de
Clynes, Rt. Hon. J. R. Kelly, W. T. Rawson, G.
Cocks, F. S. Kennedy, Rt. Hon. T. Sanders, W. S.
Compton, J. Kirby, B. V. Seely, Sir H. M.
Daggar, G. Lathan. G. Sexton, T. M.
Davidson, J. J. (Maryhill) Lawson, J. J. Shinwelf, E.
Davies, R. J. (Westhoughton) Leach, W. Short. A.
Davies, S. O. (Merthyr) Lee, F. Silverman, S. S.
Day, H. Leonard, W. Simpson, F. B.
Dabble, W. Leslie, J. R. Sinclair, Rt. Hon. Sir A. (C'thn's)
Dunn, E. (Rother Valley) Logan, D. G. Smith, Ben (Rotherhlthe)
Ede, J. C. Lunn, W. Smith, E. (Stoke)
Edwards, Sir C. (Bedwelity) Macdonald, G. (Ince) Smith, Rt. Hon. H. B. Lees- (K'ly)
Fletcher, Lt.-Comdr. R. T. H. McEntee, V. La T. Smith, T. (Normanton)
Foot, D. M. McGhee, H. G. Sorensen, R. W.
Frankel, D. MacLaren, A. Stephen, C.
Gallacher, W. Maclean, N. Stewart, W. J. (H'ght'n-le-Sp'ng)
Gardner, B. W. MacMillan, M. (Western Isles) Strauss, G. R. (Lambeth, N.)
Garro-Jones, G. M. MacNeill, Weir, L. Taylor, R. J. (Morpeth)
George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) Mander, G. le M. Thorne, W.
Gibbins, J. Marklew, E. Thurtle, E.
Graham, D. M. (Hamilton) Marshall, F. Tinker, J. J.
Grenfell, D. R. Mathers, G. Viant, S. P.
Griffith, F. Kingsley (M'ddl'sbro, W.) Maxton, J. Walker, J.
Griffiths, G. A. (Hemsworth) Messer, F. Watkins, F. C.
Hall, G. H. (Aberdare) Montague, F. Watson, W. McL.
Hall, J. H. (Whitechapel) Morrison, Rt. Hon. H. (Ha'kn'y, S.) Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. J. C.
Hardie, G. D. Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Welsh, J. C.
Harris, Sir P. A. Muff, G. White, H. Graham
Henderson, A. (Kingswintord) Naylor, T. E. Wilkinson, Ellen
Henderson, T. (Tradeston) Oliver, G. H. Williams, E. J. (Ogmore)
Holdsworth, H. Paling, W. Williams, T. (Don Valley)
Holland, A. Parker, H. J. H. Windsor, W. (Hull, C.)
Hollins, A. Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. Woods, G. S. (Finsbury)
Jagger, J. Potts, J. Young, Sir R. (Newton)
Jenkins, A. (Pontypool) Price, M. P.
Jenkins, Sir W. (Neath) Quibell, J. D. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Mr. Groves and Mr. Whiteley.