HC Deb 29 March 1935 vol 299 cc2221-3

"The following words shall be added at the end of sub-section (1) of section eighty of the Army Act, 'and produce his birth certificate,' "—[Mr. Tinker.]

Brought up, and read the First time.

Motion made, and Question put, "That the Clause be read a Second time."—[Mr. Tinker.]

The Committee divided: Ayes, 24; Noes, 102.

Division No. 126.] AYES. [12.36 p.m.
Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher Grenfell, David Rees (Glamorgan) McEntee, Valentins L.
Batey, Joseph Griffiths, George A. (Yorks, W. Riding) Maxton, James
Brown, C. W. E. (Notts., Mansfield) Grundy, Thomas W. Parkinson, John Allen
Buchanan, George- Hall, George H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Smith, Tom (Normanton)
Cove, William G. John, William Thorne, William James
Daggar, George Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Tinker, John Joseph
Davies, David L. (Pontypridd) Lanabury, Rt. Hon. George
Dobbie, William Lawson, John James TELLERS FOR THE AYES —
Gardner, Benjamin Walter Lunn, William Mr. Paling and Mr. Groves.
Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G. Evans, R. T. (Carmarthen) Molson, A. Hugh Elsdale
Allen, Sir J. Sandeman (L'pool, W.) Foot, Dingle (Dundes) Moore, Lt.-Col. Thomas C. R. (Ayr)
Allen, Lt.-Col. J. Sandeman (B'k'nh'd) Fremantle, Sir Francis Morrison, William Shepherd
Allen, William (Stoke-on-Trent) Ganzoni. Sir John Munro, Patrick
Amery. Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Goff, Sir Park Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H.
Anstruther-Gray, W. J. Goldie. Noel B. Peto, Geoffrey K. (W'verh'pfn, Bllst'n)
Ask", Sir Robert William Grimston, R. V. Fike, Cecil F.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. Raikes, Henry V. A. M.
Balfour, Capt. Harold (I. of Thanet) Hamilton. Sir R. W.(Orkney & Zetl'nd) Ramsay T. B. W. (Western Isle")
Blindell, James Harvey, Major Sir Samuel (Totnes) Rea, Walter Russell
Bower, Commander Robert Tatton Haslam, Henry (Horncastle) Reed, Arthur C. (Exeter)
Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W. Hellgers, Captain F. F. A. Reid, William Allan (Derby)
Broadbent, Colonel John Hope, Capt. Hon. A. O. J. (Aston) Ropner, Colonel L.
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Hope, Sydney (Chester, Stalybridge) Samuel, M. R. A. (W'ds'wth, Putney).
Brown, Brig. -Gen. H. C (Berks, Newb'y) Howitt, Dr. Alfred B. Sassoon, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip A. G. D.
Browne, Captain A. C. Hunter, Capt. M. J. (Brigg) Seltey, Harry H.
Burghley, Lord Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer Shaw, Captain William T. (Forfar)
Chapman, Col. R.(Houghton-le-Spring) Joel, Dudley J. Barnato Smiles, Lieut-Col. Sir Walter D.
Cobb, Sir Cyril Kerr, Hamilton W. Smith, Sir Robert (Ab'd'n & K'dine, C.)
Collins, Rt. Hon. Sir Godfrey Leighton, Major B. E. P. Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor)
Colville, Lieut.-Colonel J. Lennox-Boyd, A. T. Sotheron-Estcourt, Captain T. E.
Conant, R. J. E. Liewellin, Major John J. Stourton, Hon. John J.
Cook, Thomas A. Lovat-Fraser, James Alexander Strickland, Captain W. F.
Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. Lumley, Captain Lawrence R. Sandys, Edwin Duncan
Crooke, J. Smedley Mabane, William Thomson, Sir Frederick Charles
Crookshank, Capt. H. C. (Galnsb'ro) McKle, John Hamilton Todd, Lt.-Col. A. J. K. (B'wick-on-T.)
Davies, Maj. Geo. F.(Somerset, Yeovil) McLean, Major Sir Alan Todd, A. L. S. (Kingswinford)
Duncan, James A. L. (Kensington, N.) Makins, Brigadier-General Ernest Tufnell, Lieut.-Commander R. L.
Ellis, Sir R. Geoffrey Mayhew. Lieut.-Colonel John Wallace, Captain D. E. (Hornsey)
Elmley, Viscount Mills, Sir Frederick (Leyton, E.) Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend)
Evans, Capt. Arthur (Cardiff, S.) Milne, Charles Ward, Sarah Adelaide (Cannock)
Warrender, Sir Victor A. G. Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George Young, Ernest J. (Middlesbrough, E.)
Watt, Major George Steven H. Wise, Alfred R.
Wells, Sydney Richard Womersley, Sir Walter TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Williams, Herbert G. (Croydon, S.) Worthington, Dr. John V. Sir George Penny and Lieut.-Colonel
Sir A. Lambert Ward.

The next Amendment that I select is the proposed new Clause.—(Amendment of Army Act, s. 81.)


Are you not calling the proposed new Clause—" Appointment of soldiers' committees to advise soldiers in presenting their wrongs?"


I have given careful consideration to that proposed new Clause, and I have looked up the precedents as to the questions that are permissable in the discussions on the Army Annual Bill, and I have come to the conclusion that this is really a matter of administration which should be raised on the Estimates.