HC Deb 27 June 1935 vol 303 cc1276-9

May I ask the Prime Minister the business for next week?

The PRIME MINISTER (Mr. Baldwin)

Monday: Finance Bill, Report stage; London Passenger Transport (Agreement) Bill, Committee; Committee and remaining stages of the Defence (Barracks) Bill [Lords.]

Tuesday and Wednesday: Housing (Scotland) Bill, Report stage; remaining stages of the London Passenger Transport (Agreement) Bill.

Thursday: Third Reading of the Housing (Scotland) Bill; Second Reading of the Public Health (Water and Sewerage) (Scotland) Bill; conclusion of adjourned Debate on Second Reading of the Criminal Lunatics (Scotland) Bill [Lords.]

Friday: Third Reading of the Finance Bill.

During the week, if there is time, progress will be made with other Orders on the Paper.


I am not quite sure how that rather long list of business for next week will work out. The programme is evidently quite full. I should like to ask the right hon. Gentleman when he proposes to give the day that was promised to the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Epping (Mr. Churchill) and to the Noble Lord the Member for Horsham (Earl Winterton) for discussing the position that has arisen in regard to our relationships with the Irish Free State and in view of the decision of the Privy Council. I should also like to ask him whether, in making up the time-table for the future, we may have some Supply days each week until the end of the present Session. A fair number of days have still to go, and there are very important questions which we want to raise in Committee of Supply. One of those questions will, we hope, be in regard to Ministers who have not much to do, Ministers who have portfolios and nothing much to do, and Ministers without portfolios, one of whom is, we understand, to be the thought machine of the Government.

I want if I may also to give notice that we propose to put on the Paper a Motion calling attention to the failure of the Government to deal with the problem of the depressed areas and to questions connected with unemployment and employment generally. We shall ask for a day as early as we can, and I know that the right hon. Gentleman with the serried ranks behind him will welcome the opportunity and will be only too glad to give us that day.


The right hon. Gentleman is aware of the difficulty of giving an undertaking at this time of the Session. I am entirely in sympathy with his desire to spread the Supply days. I know there are difficulties in having a large number of them together. We shall do all we can to make it easy working for him. I would remind him that there is a certain amount of legislation which must be got through, because legislation has to go to another place besides this Chamber and must be got up in sufficient time for the various bills to become law before we rise. We will do the best we can. In regard to the two or three occasions upon which the right hon. Gentleman desires debates, the best course will be for conversations to take place through the usual channels. I have no doubt that it can be arranged. We do not desire to discuss now all the subjects that he mentioned, and if he will be good enough to consult with my right hon. and gallant Friend the Patronage Secretary, we will do all in our power to fix something that will be convenient to the whole House.


I am much obliged to the right hon. Gentleman. Perhaps at an early date we may know the Government's intention as to an autumn Session

or the continuation of this Session. I know that that is probably asking an unorthodox question, but when we are asked to squeeze up and hurry the business we ought to know whether the Government have in mind the conclusion of this Session in say, the middle of August, or some time like that, and not to carry any of the business over till October.


I entirely agree with the right hon. Gentleman. We shall take the House into our confidence as soon as we have come to a decision, and I hope that that will not be very long. We shall have nothing to hide in the matter.


We know that the Government will have nothing to fear and nothing to hide, but we would like to know for certain.


Could the Prime Minister say when we are to have a day to discuss the Anglo-German Naval Agreement or Alliance, which is very important? Can I not have an answer? Does the right hon. Gentleman not want it discussed at all? I am quite aware of his reluctance to have it discussed. Will he not give us any answer at all? It has been discussed in Paris, anyhow.

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 218; Noes, 47.

Division No. 250.] AYES. [3.40 p.m.
Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.) Browne, Captain A. C. Cross, R. H.
Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G. Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. Crossley, A. C.
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Bullock, Captain Malcolm Cruddas, Lieut.-Colonel Bernard
Anstruther-Gray, W. J. Burgin, Dr. Edward Leslie Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil)
Assheton, Ralph Burnett, John George Dawson, Sir Philip
Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent, Dover) Butler, Richard Austen Denville, Alfred
Astor, Viscountess (Plymouth, Sutton) Calne, G. R. Hall- Duckworth, George A. V.
Balley, Eric Alfred George Caporn, Arthur Cecil Dugdale, Captain Thomas Lionel
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Carver, Major William H. Duggan, Hubert John
Beauchamp, Sir Brograve Campbell Cayzer, Maj. Sir H. R. (P'rtsm'th, S.) Duncan, James A. L. (Kensington, N.)
Beaumont, Hon. R. E. B. (Portsm'th, C.) Cazalet, Thelma (Islington, E.) Eales, John Frederick
Beit, Sir Alfred L. Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston) Elliot, Rt. Hon. Walter
Benn, Sir Arthur Shirley Chapman, Col. R.(Houghton-le-Spring) Ellis, Sir R. Geoffrey
Bennett, Capt. Sir Ernest Nathaniel Christle, James Archibald Elmley, Viscount
Bernays, Robert Collins, Rt. Hon. Sir Godfrey Emrys-Evans, P. V.
Bilndell, James Colman, N. C. D. Essenhigh, Reginald Clare
Bower, Commander Robert Tatton Colville, Lieut.-Colonel J. Evans, Capt. Arthur (Cardiff, S.)
Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W. Conant, R. J. E. Everard, W. Lindsay
Braithwaite, Maj. A. N. (Yorks, E. R.) Cook, Thomas A. Fermoy, Lord
Brass, Captain Sir William Cooke, Douglas Flelden, Edward Brocklehurst
Briscoe, Capt. Richard George Cooper, A. Duff Flint, Abraham John
Broadbent, Colonel John Courtauld, Major John Sewell Ford, Sir Patrick J.
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Courthope, Colonel Sir George L. Fox, Sir Gifford
Brown, Rt. Hon. Ernest (Leith) Craddock, Sir Reginald Henry Fraser, Captain Sir Ian
Fremantle, Sir Francis Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hn. G. (Wd.Gr'n) Russell, R. J. (Eddlsbury)
Fuller, captain A. G. Loftus, Pierce C. Rutherford, John (Edmonton)
Ganzoni, Sir John Lovat-Fraser, James Alexander Rutherford, Sir John Hugo (Liverp'l)
Glossop, C. W. H. Lumley, Captain Lawrence R. Salmon, Sir Isidore
Gluckstein, Louis Halls Mabane, William Samuel, M. R. A. (W'ds'wth, Putney).
Goff, Sir Park MacAndrew, Lieut.-Col. Sir Charles Savery, Servington
Graham, Sir F. Fergus (C'mb'rl'd, N.) MacAndrew, Major J. O. (Ayr) Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell)
Grattan-Doyle, Sir Nicholas McCorquodale, M. S. Simmonds, Oliver Edwin
Graves, Marjorle MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John
Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John MacDonald, Rt. Hon. M. (Bassetlaw) Skelton, Archibald Noel
Grimston, R. V. McEwen, Captain J. H. F. Smith, Sir J. Walker- (Barrow-in-F.)
Guinness, Thomas L. E. B. McLean, Major Sir Alan Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam)
Gunston, Captain D. W. McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston) Smith, Sir Robert (Ab'd'n & K'dlne, C.)
Guy, J. C. Morrison Macpherson, Rt. Hon. Sir Ian Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor)
Hales, Harold K. Macquisten, Frederick Alexander Spender-Clay, Rt. Hon. Herbert H.
Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford) Manningham-Buller, Lt.-Col. Sir M. Stanley, Rt. Hon. Lord (Fylde)
Hamilton, Sir R. W. (Orkney & Zetl'nd) Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. Stanley, Rt. Hon. Oliver (W'morland)
Hammersley, Samuel S. Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel John Stewart, J. Henderson (Fife, E.)
Hanbury, Sir Cecil Mellor, Sir J. S. P. Stewart, William J. (Belfast, S.)
Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest) Stones, James
Harbord, Arthur Mitcheson, G. G. Storey, Samuel
Hartington, Marquess of Monsell, Rt. Hon. Sir B. Eyres Strauss, Edward A.
Harvey, George (Lambeth, Kenningt'n) Morgan, Robert H. Strickland, Captain W. F.
Harvey, Major Sir Samuel (Totnes) Morrison, G. A. (Scottish Univer'ties) Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Haslam, Henry (Horncastle) Morrison, William Shepherd Stuart, Lord C. Crichton-
Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Sir Cuthbert Moss, Captain H. J. Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Hart
Heilgers, Captain F. F. A. Muirhead, Lieut.-Colonel A. J. Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H. Thomson, Sir James D. W.
Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. Nicholson, Rt. Hn. W. G. (Petersf'ld) Titchneld, Major the Marquess of
Hope, Capt. Hon. A. O. J. (Aston) Nunn, William Todd, A. L. S. (Kingswinford)
Hornby, Frank Orr Ewing, I. L. Train, John
Horobin, Ian M. Palmer, Francis Noel Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Horsbrugh, Florence Pearson, William G. Turton, Robert Hugh
Howard, Tom Forrest Peters, Dr. Sidney John Wallace, Captain D. E. (Hornsey)
Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) Petherick, M. Wallace, Sir John (Dunfermline)
Hudson, Robert Spear (Southport) Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend)
Jackson, J. C. (Heywood & Radcliffe) Power, Sir John Cecil Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Jamieson, Rt. Hon. Douglas Pownall, Sir Assheton Watt, Major George Steven H.
Kerr, Hamilton W. Procter, Major Henry Adam Wedderburn, Henry James Scrymgeour
Kirkpatrick, William M. Radford, E. A. Wells, Sydney Richard
Knox, Sir Alfred Ramsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Midlothian) Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Lambert, Rt. Hon. George Ramsay, T. B. W. (Western Isles) Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Law, Sir Alfred Ramsbotham, Herwald Wilson, Lt.-Col. Sir Arnold (Hertf'd)
Leech, Dr. J. W. Ramsden, Sir Eugene Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Lees-Jones, John Rickards, George William Womersley, Sir Walter
Lennox-Boyd, A. T. Rosbotham, Sir Thomas Worthington, Sir John
Levy, Thomas Ross Taylor, Walter (Woodbridge)
Lewis, Oswald Ruggles-Brise, Colonel Sir Edward TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Llewellin, Major John J. Runge, Norah Cecil Sir George Penny and Lieut.-Colonel
Lloyd, Geoffrey Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Sir A. Lambert Ward.
Acland, Rt. Hon. Sir Francis Dyke Grenfell, David Rees (Glamorgan) Milner, Major James
Adams, D. M. (Poplar, South) Griffiths, George A. (Yorks, W. Riding) Parkinson, John Allen
Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher Hall, George H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Rea, Sir Walter
Attlee, Rt. Hon. Clement R. Harris, Sir Percy Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen)
Batey, Joseph John, William Smith, Tom (Normanton)
Bevan, Aneurin (Ebbw Vale) Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Tinker, John Joseph
Buchanan, George Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah
Cleary, J. J. Leonard, William White, Henry Graham
Cocks, Frederick Seymour Logan, David Gilbert Williams, David (Swansea, East)
Cove, William G. Lunn, William Williams, Edward John (Ogmore)
Daggar, George Macdonald, Gordon (Ince) Williams, Thomas (York, Don Valley)
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) McEntee, Valentine L. Wilmot, John
Dobbie, William Mainwaring, William Henry Wood, Sir Murdoch McKenzie (Banff)
Edwards, Sir Charles Mallalieu, Edward Lancelot
Evans, David Owen (Cardigan) Mander, Geoffrey le M. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.
George, Megan A. Lloyd (Anglesea) Mason, David M. (Edinburgh, E.) Mr. Paling and Mr. Groves.
Greenwood, Rt. Hon. Arthur Maxton, James.