HC Deb 28 February 1935 vol 298 cc1310-3
Mr. LANSBURY

May I ask the right hon. Gentleman the Lord President of the Council the business for next week, and also, in order to save time, the object of the proposal to suspend the 11 o'clock Rule.

Mr. BALDWIN

If I may answer the latter question first, the answer is a straight one. It is solely for the purpose of making a little more progress with the Government of India Bill. It is not proposed to sit late, but very often an extra half-hour makes a little difference, and we are rather behind the point we had hoped to reach.

The business for next week is as follows:

Monday: 1st allotted Supply day, Civil and Revenue Departments Vote on Account, Committee stage, Debate on Unemployment.

Tuesday and Wednesday: Government of India Bill, Committe stage.

Thursday: 2nd allotted Supply day, Civil and Revenue Departments Vote on Account, Report stage. There will be a Debate on the operations in the commodity markets.

The business for Friday will be announced later. On any day, if there is time, other Orders will be taken.

Mr. LANSBURY

On the question of suspending the Rule to-night, I should like to ask the Lord President whether it is to be a regular sort of proposition, and also to be assured that we are not to be asked to sit late this evening. As far as the official Opposition is concerned, I do not think that there has been any waste of time. The right hon. Gentleman should discipline his friends in this matter and not keep the House sitting late. I am not suggesting at all that they are wasting time, but, if there is any time being wasted, the right hon. Gentleman should deal with those of his own family.

Mr. BALDWIN

Members of our own family usually are very difficult to deal with, but I certainly hope that it will be a rare occurrence to suspend the Eleven o'Clock Rule on this particular business. With regard to the second question, I can only say that it is not our intention to sit late.

Mr. CHURCHILL

Has my right hon. Friend formed any idea of the point it is intended to reach in the discussion to-night?

Viscountess ASTOR

Will it not depend upon the length of the speeches?

Mr. CHURCHILL

It will depend upon the importance of the discussion.

Mr. BALDWIN

I have never attempted to lay down any point. It is

impossible to do so. It will be necessary to see if good progress is being made.

Mr. CHURCHILL

May I draw the attention of my right hon. Friend to the fact that on Clause 13 the very important question of the Instrument of Instructions comes under discussion, and it will be very difficult to dispose of that unless we are to sit very late, which, I am very glad to hear, there is no intention of doing.

Mr. BALDWIN

There is no intention of doing that.

Mr. PALING

Was there not some understanding by a Committee which considered the Committee stage, that, in view of the agreement made, it would not be necessary to sit late or to suspend the Eleven o'Clock Rule?

Mr. BALDWIN

I was not at the discussions myself, but I think there will be general agreement that we are a little behind the position at which we ought to have been by now. Therefore, I am afraid that to-night it is necessary to suspend the Eleven o'Clock Rule, and I hope that it will facilitate procedure.

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[Mr. Baldwin.]

The House divided: Ayes, 251; Noes, 34.

Division No. 66.] AYES. [3.55 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Cayzer, Maj. Sir H. R. (Prtsmth., S.) Elliot, Rt. Hon. Walter
Albery, Irving James Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. Sir J.A.(Birm., W.) Ellis, Sir R. Geoffrey
Allen, Sir J. Sandeman (Liverp'l, W.) Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N.(Edgbaston) Elmley, Viscount
Allen, Lt.-Col. J. Sandeman (B'k'nh'd.) Chapman, Sir Samuel (Edinburgh, S.) Emmott, Charles E. G. C.
Anstruther-Gray, W. J. Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Emrys-Evans, P. V.
Apsley, Lord Cobb, Sir Cyril Everard, W. Lindsay
Astor, Viscountess (Plymouth, Sutton) Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D, Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst
Atholl, Duchess of Colfox, Major William Philip Foot, Dingle (Dundee)
Bailey, Eric Alfred George Colville, Lieut.-Colonel J. Foot, Isaac (Cornwall, Bodmin)
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Cooke, Douglas Fox, Sir Gilford
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Cooper, A. Dull Fraser, Captain Sir Ian
Beauchamp, Sir Brograve Campbell Courtauld, Major John Sewell Fuller, Captain A. G.
Belt, Sir Alfred L. Craddock, Sir Reginald Henry Ganzonl, Sir John
Benn, Sir Arthur Shirley Cranborne, Viscount Gault, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton
Bennett, Capt. Sir Ernest Nathaniel Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. Gillett, Sir George Masterman
Blindell, James Crooke, J. Smedley Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John
Bossom, A. C. Crookshank, Capt. H. C. (Gainsb'ro) Gledhill, Gilbert
Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W. Davidson, Rt. Hon. J, C. C. Glossop, C. W. H.
Broadbent, Colonel John Davies, Maj. Geo. F.(Somerset, Yeovil) Gluckstein, Louis Halle
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Davison, Sir William Henry Goff, Sir Park
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Dawson, Sir Philip Goodman, Colonel Albert W.
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H.C. (Berks., Newb'y) Denman, Hon. R. D. Grattan-Doyle, Sir Nicholas
Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. Dickle, John P. Grigg, Sir Edward
Burgin, Dr. Edward Leslie Donner, P. W. Grimston, R. V.
Burnett, John George Doran, Edward Guy, J. C. Morrison
Butler, Richard Austen Dugdale, Captain Thomas Lionel Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H.
Cadogan, Hon. Edward Duncan, James A. L. (Kensington, N.) Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford)
Caporn, Arthur Cecil Dunglass, Lord Hamilton, Sir R. W.(Orkney & Zetl'nd)
Castlereagh, Viscount Eady, George H. Harris, Sir Percy
Cautley, Sir Henry S. Eden, Rt. Hon. Anthony Harvey, Major Sir Samuel (Totnes)
Haslam, Henry (Horncastle) Monsell, Rt. Hon. Sir B. Eyres Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell)
Hellgers, Captain F. F. A. Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) Sinclair, Maj. Rt. Hn. Sir A. (C'thness)
Henderson, Sir Vivian L. (Chelmsford) Morrison, G. A. (Scottish Univer'ties) Skelton, Archibald Noel
Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller Moss, Captain H. J. Smith, Sir Robert (Ab'd'n & K'dine, C.)
Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. Muirhead, Lieut.-Colonel A. J. Smithers, Sir Waldron
Holdsworth, Herbert Munro, Patrick Somervell, Sir Donald
Hore-Belisha, Leslie Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H. Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor)
Hornby, Frank Nicholson, Godfrey (Morpeth) Soper, Richard
Horobin, Ian M. Nicholson, Rt. Hn. W. G. (Petersf'ld) Spender-Clay, Rt. Hon. Herbert H.
Howitt, Dr. Alfred B. Normand, Rt. Hon. Wilfrid Spens, William Patrick
Hudson, Robert Spear (Southport) North, Edward T. Stanley, Rt. Hon. Lord (Fylde)
Hutchison, W. D. (Essex, Romford) Nunn, William Stanley, Rt. Hon. Oliver (W'morland)
Inskip, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas W. H. Oman, Sir Charles William C Steel-Maitland, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur
James, Wing-Com. A. W. H. Orr Ewing, I. L. Stevenson, James
Janner, Barnett Palmer, Francis Noel Stones, James
Jesson, Major Thomas E. Patrick, Colin M. Strauss, Edward A.
Joel, Dudley J. Barnato Peake, Osbert Strickland, Captain W. F.
Johnstone, Harcourt (S. Shields) Pearson, William G. Stuart, Lord C. Crichton-
Jones, Lewis (Swansea, West) Peat. Charles U. Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Hart
Kerr, Hamilton W. Petherick, M. Summersby, Charles H.
Kirkpatrick, William M. Pickthorn, K. W. M. Sutcliffe, Harold
Knox, Sir Alfred Potter, John Tate, Mavis Constance
Lambert, Rt. Hon. George Pownall, Sir Assheton Taylor, Vice-Admiral E. A. (P'dd'gt'n.S.)
Leckie, J. A. Procter. Major Henry Adam Templeton, William P.
Leech, Or. J. W. Radford, E. A. Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Lennox-Boyd, A. T. Raikes, Henry V. A. M. Thomas, James P. L, (Hereford)
Levy, Thomas Ramsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Midlothian) Thorp, Linton Theodore
Lewis, Oswald Ramsay T. B. W. (Western Isles) Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Liddall, Walter S. Rankin, Robert Todd, A. L. S. (Kingswinford)
Lindsay, Kenneth (Kilmarnock] Rathbone, Eleanor Touche, Gordon Cosmo
Lindsay, Noel Ker Rea, Walter Russell Tree, Ronald
Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Cunliffe- Reed, Arthur C. (Exeter) Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Lloyd, Geoffrey Reid, Capt. A. Cunningham- Tufnell, Lieut.-Commander R. L.
Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hn. G.(Wd. Gr'n) Reid, David D. (County Down) Wallace, Captain D. E. (Hornsey)
Loder, Captain J. de Vere Reid, James S. C. (Stirling) Ward, Lt.-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull)
Lumley, Captain Lawrence R. Reid, William Allan (Derby) Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend)
Mabane, William Rhys, Hon. Charles Arthur U. Ward, Sarah Adelaide (Cannock)
MacAndrew, Lieut.-Col. C. G.(Partick) Rickards, George William Wardlaw-Milne. Sir John S.
MacAndrew, Capt. J. O. (Ayr) Roberts, Aled (Wrexham) Warrencer. Sir Victor A. G.
McEwen, Captain J. H. F. Ropner, Colonel L. Watt, Major George Steven H.
McKie, John Hamilton Rosbotham, Sir Thomas Wells, Sydney Richard
Maclay, Hon. Joseph Paton Ross Taylor, Walter (Woodbridge) White, Henry Graham
McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston) Rothschild, James A. de Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Macpherson, Rt. Hon. Sir Ian Ruggles-Brise, Colonel Sir Edward Williams, Herbert G. (Croydon, S.)
Magnay, Thomas Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Makins, Brigadier-General Ernest Rutherford, Sir John Hugo (Liverp'l) Wise, Alfred R.
Mander, Geoffrey le M. Salmon, Sir Isldore Womersley, Sir Walter
Manningham-Buller, Lt.-Col. Sir M. Samuel, Sir Arthur Michael (F'nham) Wood, Sir Murdoch McKenzie (Banff)
Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen) Worthington, Dr. John V.
Marsden, Commander Arthur Samuel, M. R. A. (W'ds'wth, Putney). Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton (S'v'noaks)
Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel John Sandeman, Sir A. N. Stewart Young, Ernest J, (Middlesbrough, E.)
Mills, Sir Frederick (Leyton, E.) Sanderson, Sir Frank Barnard
Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest) Sassoon, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip A. G. D. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Savery, Samuel Servington Sir Frederick Thomson and Sir
Molson, A. Hugh Elsdale Scone, Lord George Penny.
NOES.
Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher Grundy, Thomas W. Paling, Wilfred
Banfield. John William Hall, George H. (Merthyr Tydvll) Parkinson, John Allen
Batey, Joseph Jenkins, Sir William Smith, Tom (Normanton)
Brown, C. W. E. (Notts., Mansfield) Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Strauss, G. R. (Lambeth, North)
Cape, Thomas Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George Thorne, William James
Cleary, J. J. Lawson, John James Tinker, John Joseph
Cove, William G. Logan, David Gilbert Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah
Cripps, Sir Stafford Lunn, William West, F. R.
Davies, David L. (Pontypridd) Macdonald, Gordon (Ince) Williams, Edward John (Ogmore)
George, Megan A. Lloyd (Anglesea) McEntee, Valentine L. Wilmot, John
Grenfell, David Rees (Glamorgan) Mainwaring, William Henry
Griffiths, George A. (Yorks, W. Riding) Nathan, Major H. L. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Mr. John and Mr. Groves.