HC Deb 08 March 1934 vol 286 cc2014-9
Mr. ATTLEE

May I ask the Prime Minister what the business will be next week?

The PRIME MINISTER

Monday: It is proposed to move Mr. Speaker out of the Chair on going into Committee of Supply on the Navy Estimates, and to consider Votes A, 1, 10 and 2 in Committee.

Tuesday: The remaining stages of the Mining Industry (Welfare Fund) Bill, the Rural Water Supplies Bill, and Indian Pay (Temporary Abatements) Bill; Committee stage of the North Atlantic Shipping Bill, and the Second Reading of the British Sugar (Subsidy) Bill.

Wednesday: Civil and Revenue Departments, Vote on Account, Report stage (2nd allotted day). The Debate of which notice has been given will be on foreign affairs.

Thursday: It is proposed to move Mr. Speaker out of the Chair on Army Estimates, and to consider Votes A, 1, 10, 11, 13, 14 and 15 in Committee of Supply.

Friday: Private Members' Bills.

During the week it is hoped to conclude the remaining stages of the North Atlantic Shipping Bill.

On any day when time permits other Orders may be taken.

Mr. ATTLEE

May I ask the Prime Minister to look again at Tuesday's business? It is a very large amount of business for one day. The Indian Pay (Temporary Abatements) Bill has caused a good deal of unsuspected debate. It kept the House very late last night.

The PARLIAMENTARY SECRETARY to the TREASURY (Captain Margesson)

That was on the Supplementary Estimate.

Mr. ATTLEE

But the Prime Minister will realise that as the Bill deals with India it is likely to cause sudden interventions and unexpected debate. It is a very large programme of business for that day. Further, I would ask the Prime Minister for what reason the suspension of the Eleven o'clock Rule is being moved, whether only for the purpose of getting Vote A?

Sir HERBERT SAMUEL

Before the Prime Minister answers, may I reinforce what has been said with regard to Tuesday's business. There are several Bills which will take some time. There is the North Atlantic Shipping Bill to be considered in Committee, and the British Sugar (Subsidy) Bill has been put down for Second Reading as the fifth Order, Seeing that this Bill raises very important matters, which have attracted a good deal of attention in various quarters inside the House and outside, does the Prime Minister think that its Second Reading, which provides the chief occasion on which the whole policy can be discussed, should be the fifth Order? Might it not be put down as first Order on that day, or put down as first Order on some subsequent day?

Mr. TINKER

The Mining Industry (Welfare Fund) Bill is likely to take some considerable time, and we on this side do not wish to be urged to get over certain business in order to get on with other Bills.

The PRIME MINISTER

I think my hon. Friend the Member for Limehouse (Mr. Attlee) fell into something of an error about the Indian Pay (Temporary Abatements) Bill. That Bill went through previously in about 20 minutes. We shall certainly take all these representations into account, as we always do when announcing a fairly full programme for any one day, but we would like to get on with these Bills, and we hope the House will co-operate with us in getting the programme through.

Sir H. SAMUEL

May we take it from that that the particular Bill to which I referred will not be taken at a late hour of the evening?

Brigadier-General Sir HENRY CROFT

Is it not a fact that we have often heard the right hon. Gentleman's sugar bounty speech?

The PRIME MINISTER

It is not the intention of the Government to enter upon the Debate on that Bill at an unusually late hour. With reference to the suspension of the Eleven o'clock Rule to-day, we should like to get items 1 and 2 on the Order Paper, and also No. 3. No. 3, however, is an exempted Order, so that the suspension of the Eleven o'clock Rule applies only to items 1 and 2.

Mr. ATTLEE

May I call attention to the fact that the last discussion on Air Estimates did not finish until 1 o'clock in the morning, and that other business had to be taken at an extremely late hour? The House is being worked extremely hard.

The PRIME MINISTER

I think the House will remember that when Items 2 and 3 were before us at an earlier stage the House rose early. I think it will be possible to get these three Orders at a reasonably early hour.

Mr. MAXTON

I did not hear any mention of a day next week for the further stages of the Unemployment Insurance Bill, and as nothing has been done this week, I would like to ask if the Government have abandoned the Bill?

The PRIME MINISTER

I am very happy to say that the answer to that question is in the negative.

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 259; Noes, 31.

Division No. 149.] AYES. [3.38 p.m.
Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.) Bernays, Robert Burnett, John George
Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G. Betterton, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry B. Caine, G. R. Hall-
Albery, Irving James Blaker, Sir Reginald Campbell, Sir Edward Taswell (Brmly)
Allen, William (Stoke-on-Trent) Borodale, Viscount Campbell, Vice-Admiral G. (Burnley)
Applin, Lieut.-Col. Reginald V. K. Bower, Lieut.-Com. Robert Tatton Caporn, Arthur Cecil
Apsley, Lord Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W. Carver, Major William H.
Astor, Viscountess (Plymouth, Sutton) Brass, Captain Sir William Cautley, Sir Henry S.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Broadbent, Colonel John Cayzer, Sir Charles (Chester, City)
Baldwin-Webb, Colonel J. Brocklebank, C. E. R. Cazalet, Thelma (Islington, E.)
Balfour, Capt. Harold (I. of Thanet) Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) Cazalet, Capt. V. A. (Chippenham)
Balniel, Lord Brown, Ernest (Leith) Chapman, Col. R. (Houghton-le-Spring)
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Browne, Captain A. C. Christie, James Archibald
Beauchamp, Sir Brograve Campbell Buchan, John Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer
Beaumont, Hon. R.E.B. (Portsm'th,C.) Bullock, Captain Malcolm Clarke, Frank
Belt, Sir Alfred L. Burgle, Dr. Edward Leslie Clarry, Reginald George
Collins, Rt. Hon. Sir Godfrey Horsbrugh, Florence Ramsbotham, Herwald
Colville, Lieut.-Colonel J. Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) Rathbone, Eleanor
Conant, R. J. E. Hudson, Robert Spear (Southport) Rea, Walter Russell
Cook, Thomas A. Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer Reid, Capt. A. Cunningham-
Cooke, Douglas Hurd, Sir Percy Reid, James S. C. (Stirling)
Cooper, A. Duff Hurst, Sir Gerald B. Rhys, Hon. Charles Arthur U.
Copeland, Ida Jackson, Sir Henry (Wandsworth, C.) Rickards, George William
Courthope, Colonel Sir George L. James, Wing-Com. A. W. H. Ross, Ronald D.
Craddock, Sir Reginald Henry Jamieson, Douglas Ross Taylor, Walter (Woodbridge)
Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. Joel, Dudley J. Barnato Ruggles-Brise, Colonel E. A.
Crooke, J. Smedley Johnstone, Harcourt (S. Shields) Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter
Crookshank, Col. C. de Windt (Bootle) Jones, Lewis (Swansea, West) Runge, Norah Cecil
Cross, R. H. Kerr, Hamilton W. Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Crossley, A. C. Keyes, Admiral Sir Roger Russell, R. J. (Eddisbury)
Cruddas, Lieut-Colonel Bernard Knox, Sir Alfred Rutherford, Sir John Hugo (Liverp'l)
Culverwell, Cyril Tom Lamb, Sir Joseph Quinton Salmon, Sir Isidore
Dalkeith, Earl of Law, Sir Alfred Samuel, Sir Arthur Michael (F'nham)
Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. C. C. Leckie, J. A. Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen)
Davison, Sir William Henry Leech, Dr. J. W. Sandeman, Sir A. N. Stewart
Dawson, Sir Philip Lees-Jones, John Sassoon, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip A. G. D.
Denville, Alfred Leighton, Major B. E. P. Savery, Samuel Servington
Dlckie, John P. Liddall, Walter S. Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell)
Doran, Edward Lindsay, Kenneth Martin (Kilm'rnock) Simmonds, Oliver Edwin
Drewe, Cedric Lloyd, Geoffrey Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John
Duckworth, George A. V. Lockwood, John C. (Hackney, C.) Sinclair, Maj. Rt. Hn. Sir A. (C'thness)
Dunglass, Lord Loder, Captain J. de Vere Skelton, Archibald Noel
Eden, Robert Anthony Loftus, Pierce C. Smith, Bracewell (Dulwich)
Elliot, Rt. Hon. Walter Lovat-Fraser, James Alexander Smith, Sir J. Walker- (Barrow-in-F.)
Ellis, Sir R. Geoffrey Lumley, Captain Lawrence R. Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam)
Elliston, Captain George Sampson MacAndrew, Lieut.-Col. C. G. (Partick) Smith, R. W. (Ab'rd'n & Kinc'dine, C.)
Elmley, Viscount MacAndrew, Capt. J. O. (Ayr) Smithers, Waldron
Emrys-Evans, P. V. McCorquodale, M. S. Somerset, Thomas
Entwistle, Cyril Fullard MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) Somervell, Sir Donald
Evans, Capt. Arthur (Cardiff, S.) McKeag, William Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor)
Evans, David Owen (Cardigan) McKie, John Hamilton Southby, Commander Archibald R. J.
Evans, R. T. (Carmarthen) McLean, Major Sir Alan Spencer, Captain Richard A.
Everard, W. Lindsay Macpherson, Rt. Hon. Sir Ian Spender-Clay, Rt. Hon. Herbert H.
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst Maitland, Adam Stanley, Rt. Hon. Lord (Fylde)
Fleming, Edward Lascelles Makins, Brigadier-General Ernest Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westmorland)
Foot, Isaac (Cornwall, Bodmin) Mander, Geoffrey le M. Stewart, J. H. (Fife, E.)
Ford, Sir Patrick J. Manningham-Buller, Lt.-Col. Sir M. Stewart, William J. (Belfast, S.)
Fox, Sir Gifford Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. Stones, James
Fraser, Captain Ian Marsden, Commander Arthur Stourton, Hon. John J.
Fuller, Captain A. G. Martin, Thomas B. Strickland, Captain W. F.
Gault, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton Mason, Col. Glyn K. (Croydon, N.) Sueter, Rear-Admiral Sir Murray F.
Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel John Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Hart
Gledhill, Gilbert Mills, Sir Frederick (Layton, E.) Tate, Mavis Constance
Glossop, C. W. H. Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest) Taylor, Vice-Admiral E. A. (P'dd'gt'n, S.)
Glyn, Major Sir Ralph G. C. Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Thomas, James P. L. (Hereford)
Goff, Sir Park Mitcheson, G. G. Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Goodman, Colonel Albert W. Molson, A. Hugh Elsdale Touche, Gordon Cosmo
Gower, Sir Robert Monsell, Rt. Hon. Sir B. Eyres Train, John
Grattan-Doyle, Sir Nicholas Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) Tufnell, Lieut.-Commander R. L.
Grigg, Sir Edward Morrison, William Shepherd Turton, Robert Hugh
Grimston, R, V. Muirhead, Lieut.-Colonel A. J. Ward, Lt.-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull)
Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. F. E. Munro, Patrick Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend)
Guinness, Thomas L. E. B. Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H. Wardlaw-Milne, Sir John S.
Guy, J. C. Morrison Nicholson, Godfrey (Morpeth) Wedderburn, Henry James Scrymgeour-
Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. Nicholson, Rt. Hn. W. G. (Petersf'ld) Wells, Sydney Richard
Hamilton, Sir R. W. (Orkney & Zetl'nd) Normand, Rt. Hon. Wilfrid White, Henry Graham
Hammersley, Samuel S. Oman, Sir Charles William C. Whiteside, Borras Noel H.
Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William G. A. Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Hartland, George A. Palmer, Francis Noel Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) Patrick, Colln M. Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Haslam, Sir John (Bolton) Peake, Captain Osbert Womersley, Walter James
Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Cuthbert M. Pearson, William G. Worthington, Dr. John V.
Heilgers, Captain F. F. A. Petherick, M. Young, Ernest J. (Middlesbrough, E.)
Henderson, Sir Vivian L. (Chelmsford) Procter, Major Henry Adam
Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller Pybus, Sir Percy John TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Hope, Capt. Hon. A. O. J. (Aston) Radford, E. A. Sir Frederick Thomson and Sir Victor Warrender.
Hore-Belisha, Leslie Ramsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Midlothian)
Hornby, Frank Ramsay, T. B. W. (Western Isles)
NOES.
Attlee, Clement Richard Davies, David L. (Pontypridd) Jones, morgan (caerphilly)
Banfield, John William Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Lawson, John James
Brown, C. W. E. (Notts., Mansfield) Dobbie, William Logan, David Gilbert
Buchanan, George Edwards, Charles Macdonald, Gordon (Ince)
Cape, Thomas Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univ.) McEntee, valentine L.
Cocks, Frederick Seymour George, Megan A. Lloyd (Anglesea) Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan)
Cripps, Sir Stafford Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Mainwaring, William Henry
Daggar, George Hall, George H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Maxton, James
Price, Gabriel Tinker, John Joseph Williams, Dr. John H. (Llanelly)
Salter, Dr. Alfred Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Joslah
Thorne, William James William, Edward John (Ogmore) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Mr.John and Mr. Groves.