§ Motion made, and Question proposed, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."
§ 7.12 p.m.
§ Mr. LAWSONThis Clause deals with the unexpended balance of the Depreciation Fund established in connection with the 5 per cent. War Loan, 1929–47, and the 4 per cent. War Loan, 1929–42. I 1790 think that the sum dealt with amounts to something like £5,000,000. A better use might be made of this £5,000,000 than transferring it to the Exchequer. There is a vital need for money of this description to be used in other ways. If it had been possible, we would have moved that this money should have been transferred to a fund for the assistance of necessitous areas, and for the development of public works. No one in this House will deny the immediate need of some of those particular areas. The Government have admitted it. As a matter of fact, I understand that the Government desire to make some of the well-off areas come to the rescue of the necessitous areas. Many of us who come from these areas wish to know what has become of the negotiations in connection with the matter.
Everyone will admit that £5,000,000 put into use for the purpose of helping these areas would do more good than putting the money into the dead hands of the Treasury. I think the term used is that it would "fructify" in the hands of the people. Here are those great areas which at one time were among the most important in the country; which were the real foundation of this country's life, and in their time, and even now, are among the primary sources of life industrially, commercially and financially of this State. Yet when you go to the North or to the South you not only find hundreds of thousands of people who are in dire need, but areas which are so hardly pressed that bankruptcy is almost within sight for them.
The CHAIRMANI am afraid that the hon. Member is not in order in arguing this point on this particular Clause. The Clause is founded upon a Financial Resolution which is very definite and limited. It says:
That the unexpected balance of the Depreciation Fund established in connection with the Four per cent. War Loan (1929–42) and the Five per cent. War Loan (1929–47) shall, at such time as the Treasury may determine, be paid into the Exchequer.We cannot argue the uses of that fund.
§ Mr. LAWSONIs it not possible to argue that there is a better way of dealing with this £5,000,000?
§ Sir S. CRIPPSIs it not competent to argue that the Exchequer, having obtained that £5,000,000, should then pay it out and use it for the purpose of necessitous areas?
The CHAIRMANIf the hon. and learned Member can get a Financial Resolution authorising that, it will be competent to argue it.
§ Sir S. CRIPPSI understand that there is no Financial Resolution authorising its use, but that the Resolution merely states that it is to be paid into the Exchequer. Are we to understand that it is to remain there for ever?
The CHAIRMANThere are all sorts of Resolutions and decisions of the House which will allow the money to be paid cut of the Exchequer.
§ Sip S. CRIPPSWe have heard from the Government that they intend to assist the necessitous areas, and they have given an undertaking that they will do so. Cannot we assume that they will bring forward a Financial Resolution in order to implement their promise? That is what we are asking them to do.
§ Sir S. CRIPPSIs it not competent to argue that, having had the statement from the Government that they intend to do this work for necessitous areas, this is an opportunity for them to use a certain Capttal fund which is being paid into the Exchequer?
The CHAIRMANNo, because on that theory the hon. and learned Member can discuss anything at all on this Clause. I am afraid that I must rule that out.
§ Mr. LAWSONI am sorry that you cannot allow us to discuss this important subject on this Clause. It seems to us that this £5,000,000 which is placed in the hands of the Government could be usefully spent in other ways. The Government might carry out what seems to be their policy of expenditure on public works. It seems to us to be possible to use this fund for that purpose. We are going to challenge this Clause, because we think that £5,000,000 can certainly be used usefully in carrying out a policy which would bring life to necessitous 1792 areas and be more usefully used than allowing it to be in the hands of the Exchequer for the relief of the Income Tax payers. I am sure that if they had to decide upon this matter they would rather yield to the needs of those areas and the people who live in them than be relieved themselves.
§ 7.20 p.m.
§ Sir S. CRIPPSThere is an important aspect of this Clause with which my hon. Friend has not dealt. It is that the money which is being taken here is a Capttal sum and that it is apparently going to be used for some ordinary revenue purpose. One has always understood that one of the criteria of Conservative finance is that we should not take Capttal sums and use them for revenue purposes, but that we should draw a clear distinction between revenue and Capttal and see that we get sufficient revenue in the year to meet all revenue purposes. As you, Sir Dennis, have stated, it is impossible to trace this particular £5,000,000 to any particular fund in the way of expenditure, but I may remind you that it was this £5,000,000 which the Chancellor of the Exchequer described as the ram caught in the thicket. It was the nest egg which he discovered when he was looking round for the purpose of relieving the Income Tax payer. Indeed, he told us, indirectly at any rate, that he would have been unable to relieve them unless he had discovered this sum of money. I want to ask the Financial Secretary whether he considers it a proper and sound financial proceeding to take a sum of money which has been put aside in a Capttal sinking fund, in a year when the Government are borrowing for another Capttal sinking fund and are paying money out of revenue for a sinking fund, and use it for revenue purposes; and not only for revenue purposes, but for the purpose of remitting a certain amount of taxation during the year. Can he justify on any sound financial criterion such an expenditure of the money?
The CHAIRMANI cannot allow the Financial Secretary to answer that question. The hon. and learned Gentleman's point is again out of order on this particular Clause. It is true that the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his Budget speech related this particular 1793 money to a particular object, but that has been discussed on a previous Clause and has been disposed of. This Clause merely transfers the fund to the Exchequer, but it does not say on what the Exchequer is going to spend it. It does not say whether the money is to be spent for Capttal or for revenue purposes.
§ Sir S. CRIPPSAs I understand it, money transferred to the Exchequer at such time as the Treasury may determine must of necessity when it gets into the Exchequer form part of the revenue balances of the Exchequer. I should like to ask your guidance whether that does not necessarily follow from the form of this Clause.
The CHAIRMANThe money goes into the Exchequer to form part of the balances, but it can only be dealt with as authorised by this House in the ordinary form of financial procedure.
§ Sir S. CRIPPSAm I not right in supposing that it can only be dealt with for revenue purposes under any existing authorisation which the Exchequer at this moment holds from this House?
§ Sir S. CRIPPSAm I right in assuming, in a discussion of this Clause, that Exchequer moneys can only be expended on matters so far authorised by this House?I am surely not entitled to assume that some fresh authorisation is coming forward. As this £5,000,000, when the Clause is passed, will be paid into the Exchequer balances and will be spent according to existing authorisations, I cannot go beyond that, but I am unaware that there are any existing authorisations for expenditure on Capttal purposes.
The CHAIRMANThat may be so. The hon. Member cannot discuss here whether it is to be expended for Capttal or whether it is to be expended for revenue purposes. The only opportunity of discussing how this money is to be spent is when Estimates are brought before the House for the expenditure of money.
§ Sir S. CRIPPSI must limit my comment to the taking of money which is clearly Capttal money when the Govern- 1794 ment have put no proposals before the House of any sort to spend it for Capttal purposes, and I must ask the Financial Secretary whether he will inform us if the Government intend to bring forward any proposal as regards the expenditure of this £5,000,000 of Capttal money for Capttal purposes or whether they do not.
The CHAIRMANI must rule that out of order. When once this fund gets into the Exchequer, it is no longer a definite fund and the expenditure of it cannot be discussed.
§ Sir S. CRIPPSThis money is not yet in the Exchequer, and we are objecting to it going there. Before we vote on the Clause we desire to know whether there is any proposal to spend it for Capttal purposes. This is Capttal money in a separate Capttal fund, and we object to it going into the Exchequer without any plan or information as to how it is to be spent.
§ 7.26 p.m.
§ The FINANCIAL SECRETARY to the TREASURY (Mr. Hore-Belisha)I do not want to appear discourteous to the hon. and learned Gentleman, but, in so far as the Rules of Order permit me, I will give him an answer. We all fall victims to the narrow Rules of Procedure sometimes, and I very much condole with the hon. Members opposite. As they know, this Depreciation Fund is being taken into the Exchequer because the purpose for which the money was required has now lapsed. In those circumstances, it is only natural that it should be taken into the Exchequer. My right hon. Friend in his Budget speech explained the circumstances in which it was being taken into the Exchequer and the circumstances in which it would be taken out. His speech closely connected this fund with the concession to the Income Tax payers. These are two non-recurrent items. This fund is non-recurrent, and the purpose for which it is to be used is equally non-recurrent. I hope that without transgressing the Rules of Order, I have been able to give some satisfaction to the hon. and learned Gentleman.
§ Question put, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."
§ The Committee divided: Ayes, 284; Noes, 44.
1785| Division No. 206.] | AYES. | [6.50 p.m. |
| Attlee, Clement Richard | Hall, George H. (Merthyr Tydvil) | Parkinson, John Allen |
| Buchanan, George | Hicks, Ernest George | Price, Gabriel |
| Cape, Thomas | Hirst, George Henry | Rathbone, Eleanor |
| Cocks, Frederick Seymour | Jenkins, Sir William | Salter, Dr. Alfred |
| Cove, William G. | Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) | Smith, Tom (Normanton) |
| Cripps, Sir Stafford | Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Daggar, George | Kirkwood, David | Wallhead, Richard C. |
| Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George | Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah |
| Dobble, William | Lawson, John James | Williams, David (Swansea, East) |
| Edwards, Charles | Lunn, William | Williams, Edward John (Ogmore) |
| Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) | McEntee, Valentine L. | Williams, Thomas (York, Don Valley) |
| Greenwood, Rt. Hon. Arthur | McGovern, John | |
| Grenfell, David Rees (Glamorgan) | Mainwaring, William Henry | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Maxton, James | Mr. John and Mr. G. Macdonald. |
| Grunoy, Thomas W. | Milner, Major James | |
| NOES. | ||
| Acland, Rt. Hon. Sir Francis Dyke | Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. | Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford) |
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Crooks, J. Smedley | Hamilton, Sir R. W.(Orkney & Zetl'nd) |
| Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.) | Crookshank, Col. C. de Windt (Bootle) | Hanley, Dennis A. |
| Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G. | Cross, R. H. | Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry |
| Albery, Irving James | Dalkeith, Earl of | Harbord, Arthur |
| Anstruther-Gray, W. J. | Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. C. C. | Hartington, Marquess of |
| Applin, Lieut.-Col. Reginald V. K. | Davies, Edward C. (Montgomery) | Hartland, George A. |
| Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent, Dover) | Davies, Maj. Geo.F.(Somerset,Yeovil) | Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) |
| Baillie, Sir Adrian W. M. | Dawson, Sir Philip | Haslam, Henry (Horncastle) |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley | Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. | Haslam, Sir John (Bolton) |
| Baldwin-Webb, Colonel J. | Donner, p. W. | Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Cuthbert M. |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Doran, Edward | Heilgers, Captain F. F. A. |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Drewe, Cedric | Herbert, Capt. S. (Abbey Division) |
| Barton, Capt. Basil Kelsey | Dugdale, Captain Thomas Lionel | Holdsworth, Herbert |
| Beaumont, M. W. (Bucks., Aylesbury) | Dunglass, Lord | Hore-Belisha, Leslie |
| Bennett, Capt. Sir Ernest Nathaniel | Eales, John Frederick | Hornby, Frank |
| Blaker, Sir Reginald | Eastwood, John Francis | Horne, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert S. |
| Blindell, James | Elliot, Major Rt. Hon. Walter E. | Horobin, Ian M. |
| Boothby, Robert John Graham | Elliston, Captain George Sampson | Horsbrugh, Florence |
| Bossom, A. C. | Elmley, Viscount | Howard, Tom Forrest |
| Boulton, W. W. | Emrys- Evans, P. V. | Howitt, Dr. Alfred B. |
| Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W. | Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare) | Hudson, Robert Spear (Southport) |
| Boyce, H. Leslie | Evans, David Owen (Cardigan) | Hume, Sir George Hopwood |
| Braithwaite, Maj. A.N. (Yorks, E. R.) | Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univ.) | Hurd, Sir Percy |
| Briant, Frank | Falle, Sir Bertram G. | Hurst, Sir Gerald B. |
| Briscoe, Capt. Richard George | Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst | Inskip, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas W. H. |
| Broadbent, Colonel John | Foot, Isaac (Cornwall, Bodmin) | Iveagh, Countess of |
| Brocklebank, C. E. R. | Forestier-Walker, Sir Leolin | Jackson, Sir Henry (Wandsworth, C.) |
| Brown, Ernest (Leith) | Fox, Sir Gifford | Jesson, Major Thomas E. |
| Brown,Brig-Gen. H.C. (Berks., Newb'y) | Fraser, Captain Ian | Johnstone, Harcourt (S. Shields) |
| Browne, Captain A. C. | Fremantle, Sir Francis | Jones, Lewis (Swansea, West) |
| Burnett, John George | Fuller, Captain A. G. | Kerr, Hamilton W. |
| Burton, Colonel Henry Walter | Ganzoni, Sir John | Knox, Sir Alfred |
| Cadogan, Hon. Edward | Gault, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton | Lamb, Sir Joseph Quinton |
| Campbell, Edward Taswell (Bromley) | George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) | Lambert, Rt. Hon. George |
| Campbell-Johnston, Malcolm | George, Megan A. Lloyd (Anglesea) | Law, Sir Alfred |
| Caporn, Arthur Cecil | Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | Lees-Jones, John |
| Cayzer, Sir Charles (Chester, City) | Glossop, C. W. H. | Lennox-Boyd, A. T. |
| Cayzer, Maj. Sir H. R. (Prtsmth., S.) | Gluckstein, Louis Halle | Levy, Thomas |
| Cazalet, Capt. V. A. (Chippenham) | Gaff, Sir Park | Lewis, Oswald |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston) | Goldie, Noel B. | Liddall, Walter S. |
| Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer | Goodman, Colonel Albert W. | Lindsay, Noel Ker |
| Clarke, Frank | Granville, Edgar | Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Cunliffe- |
| Clarry, Reginald George | Grattan-Doyle, Sir Nicholas | Lloyd, Geoffrey |
| Cobb, Sir Cyril | Grenfell, E. C. (City of London) | Lockwood, John C. (Hackney, C.) |
| Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. | Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John | Lovat-Fraser, James Alexander |
| Colfox, Major William Philip | Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro', W.) | Lymington, Viscount |
| Colville, Lieut.-Colonel J. | Gritten, W. G. Howard | Lyons, Abraham Montagu |
| Conant, R. J. E. | Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. F. E. | Mabane, William |
| Cook, Thomas A. | Guinness, Thomas L. E. B. | MacAndrew, Lieut.-Col. C. G. (Partick) |
| Cooke, Douglas | Gunston, Captain D. W. | MacAndrew, Capt. J. O. (Ayr) |
| Cooper, A. Duff | Guy, J. C. Morrison | McCorquodale, M. S. |
| Courthope, Colonel Sir George L | Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. | Macdonald, Sir Murdoch (Inverness) |
| Craddock, Sir Reginald Henry | Hales, Harold K. | McKeag, William |
| McKie, John Hamilton | Raikes, Henry V. A. M. | Spencer, Captain Richard A. |
| Maclay, Hon. Joseph Paton | Ramsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Midlothian) | Spender-Clay, Rt. Hon. Herbert H. |
| McLean, Major Sir Alan | Ramsbotham, Herwald | Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westmorland) |
| McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston) | Ramsden, Sir Eugene | Stevenson, James |
| Macquisten, Frederick Alexander | Rawson, Sir Cooper | Stewart, J. H. (Fife, E.) |
| Maitland, Adam | Ray, Sir William | Stones, James |
| Makins, Brigadier-General Ernest | Rea, Walter Russell | Storey, Samuel |
| Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. | Reed, Arthur C. (Exeter) | Strauss, Edward A. |
| Marsden, Commander Arthur | Reid, David D. (County Down) | Strickland, Captain W. F. |
| Martin, Thomas B. | Reid, James S. C. (Stirling) | Stuart, Lord C. Crichton- |
| Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel John | Reid, William Allan (Derby) | Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Hart |
| Merriman, Sir F. Boyd | Rentoul, Sir Gervals S. | Tate, Mavis Constance |
| Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest) | Roberts, Aled (Wrexham) | Thomas, James P. L. (Hereford) |
| Milne, Charles | Robinson, John Roland | Thompson, Luke |
| Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) | Ropner, Colonel L. | Thomson, Sir Frederick Charles |
| Molson, A. Hugh Elsdale | Rosbotham, Sir Samuel | Thorp, Linton Theodore |
| Moreing, Adrian C. | Ross, Ronald D. | Titchfield, Major the Marquess or |
| Morgan, Robert H. | Ross Taylor, Walter (Woodbridge) | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement |
| Morris, Owen Temple (Cardiff, E.) | Runge, Norah Cecil | Turton, Robert Hugh |
| Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) | Rutherford, John (Edmonton) | Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon |
| Morrison, William Shephard | Rutherford, Sir John Hugo (Liverp'l) | Wallace, John (DunferMilne) |
| Muirhead, Major A. J. | Salmon, Sir Isidore | Ward, Lt.-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull) |
| Munro, Patrick | Salt, Edward W. | Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend) |
| Murray-Phillpson, Hylton Raiph | Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen) | Ward, Sarah Adelaide (Cannock) |
| Nail-Cain, Hon. Ronald | Samuel, Samuel (W'dsworth, Putney) | Wardlaw-Milne, Sir John S. |
| Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H. | Sandeman, Sir A. N. Stewart | Warrender, Sir Victor A. G. |
| Newton, Sir Douglas George C. | Sanderson, sir Frank Barnard | Waterhouse, Captain Charles |
| Nicholson, Godfrey (Morpeth) | Savery, Samuel Servington | Wedderburn,Henry James Scrymgeour- |
| O'Connor, Terence James | Scone, Lord | Wells, Sydney Richard |
| O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Sir Hugh | Shakespeare, Geoffrey H. | White, Henry Graham |
| Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William G. A. | Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell) | Whiteside, Borras Noel H. |
| Pearson, William G. | Shepperson, Sir Ernest W. | Whyte, Jardine Bell |
| Peat, Charles U. | Shuts, Colonel J. J. | Wills, Wilfrid D. |
| Penny, Sir George | Skelton, Archibald Noel | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George |
| Peters, Dr. Sidney John | Smiles, Lieut.-Col. Sir Walter D. | Wolmer, Rt. Hon. Viscount |
| Petherick, M. | Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) | Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir H. Kingsley |
| Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) | Smith-Carington, Neville W. | Wood, Sir Murdoch McKenzie (Banff) |
| Peto, Geoffrey K.(W'verh'pt'n, Bliston) | Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor) | Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton (S'v'oaks) |
| Pickering, Ernest H. | Somerville, D. G. (Willesden, East) | |
| Pike, Cecil F. | Soper, Richard | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Potter, John | Sotheron-Estcourt, Captain T. E. | Mr. Womersley and Commander |
| Procter, Major Henry Adam | Spears, Brigadier-General Edward L. | Southby. |
Question, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill," put, and agreed to.
| Division No. 207.] | AYES. | [7.29 p.m. |
| Acland, Rt. Hon. Sir Francis Dyke | Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst | McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston) |
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Foot, Isaac (Cornwall, Bodmin) | Macmillan, Maurice Harold |
| Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.) | Forestier-Walker, Sir Leolin | Maitland, Adam |
| Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G. | Fox, Sir Gifford | Makins, Brigadier-General Ernest |
| Albery, Irving James | Fraser, Captain Ian | Mallalieu, Edward Lancelot |
| Anstruther-Gray, W. J. | Fuller, Captain A. G. | Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. |
| Applin, Lieut.-Col. Reginald V. K. | Ganzoni, Sir John | Marsden, Commander Arthur |
| Aske, Sir Robert William | Gault, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton | Mason, Col. Glyn K. (Croydon, N.) |
| Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent, Dover) | George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) | Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel John |
| Bailey, Eric Alfred George | George, Megan A. Lloyd (Anglesea) | Merriman, sir F. Boyd |
| Baillie, Sir Adrian W. M. | Gillett, Sir George Masterman | Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest) |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley | Glossop, C. W. H. | Milne, Charles |
| Balfour, Capt. Harold (I. of Thanet) | Gluckstein, Louis Halle | Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Glyn, Major Raiph G. C. | Molson, A. Hugh Elsdale |
| Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar | Goff, Sir Park | Moore, Lt.-Col. Thomas C. R. (Ayr) |
| Barton, Capt. Basil Kelsey | Goldie, Noel B. | Moreing, Adrian C. |
| Beaumont, M. W. (Bucks., Aylesbury) | Goodman, Colonel Albert W. | Morgan, Robert H. |
| Bird, Ernest Roy (Yorks., Skipton) | Granville, Edgar | Morris, Owen Temple (Cardiff, E.) |
| Blindell, James | Grattan-Doyle, Sir Nicholas | Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) |
| Bootbby, Robert John Graham | Graves, Marjorie | Morrison, William Shepherd |
| Bottom, A. C. | Grenfell, E. C. (City of London) | Muirhead, Major A. J. |
| Boulton, W. W. | Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John | Murray-Phillpson, Hylton Raiph |
| Bower, Lieut.-Com. Robert Tatton | Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro',W.) | Nail-Cain, Hon. Ronald |
| Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W. | Gritten, W. G. Howard | Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H. |
| Braithwaite, Maj. A. N. (Yorks, E. R.) | Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. F. E. | North, Edward T. |
| Braithwaite, J. G. (Hillsborough) | Guinness, Thomas L. E. B. | O'Connor, Terence James |
| Briant, Frank | Gunston, Captain D. W. | O'Donovan, Dr. William James |
| Briscoe, Capt. Richard George | Guy, J. C. Morrison | O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Sir Hugh |
| Broadbent, Colonel John | Hales, Harold K. | Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William G. A. |
| Brown, Ernest (Leith) | Hamilton, Sir R. W.(Orkney & Zetl'nd) | Palmer, Francis Noel |
| Browne, Captain A. C. | Hammersley, Samuel S. | Pearson, William G. |
| Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. | Hanley, Dennis A. | Peat, Charles U. |
| Burnett, John George | Harbord, Arthur | Penny, Sir George |
| Cadogan, Hon. Edward | Harris, Sir Percy | Percy, Lord Eustace |
| Campbell, Edward Taswell (Bromley) | Hartington, Marquess of | Perkins, Walter R. D. |
| Campbell-Johnston, Malcolm | Harvey, George (Lambeth, Kenningt'n) | Peters, Dr. Sidney John |
| Caporn, Arthur Cecil | Haslam, Henry (Horncastle) | Petherick, M. |
| Carver, Major William H. | Haslam, Sir John (Bolton) | Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) |
| Cayzer, Maj. Sir H. R. (P'rtsm'th, S.) | Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Cuthbert M. | Peto, Geoffrey K. (W'verh'pt'n, Bilst'n) |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N.(Edgbaston) | Heilgers, Captain F. F. A. | Pickering, Ernest H. |
| Clarke, Frank | Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. | Pike, Cecil F. |
| Clarry, Reginald George | Herbert, Capt. S. (Abbey Division) | Potter, John |
| Cobb, Sir Cyril | Holdsworth, Herbert | Procter, Major Henry Adam |
| Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. | Hore-Belisha, Leslie | Raikes, Henry V. A. M. |
| Colfox, Major William Philip | Hornby, Frank | Ramsbotham, Herwald |
| Colville, Lieut.-Colonel J. | Horne, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert S. | Ramsden, Sir Eugene |
| Conant, R. J. E. | Horobin, Ian M. | Rawson, Sir Cooper |
| Cook, Thomas A. | Horsbrugh, Florence | Rea, Walter Russell |
| Cooke, Douglas | Howard, Tom Forrest | Reed, Arthur C. (Exeter) |
| Cooper, A. Duff | Howitt, Dr. Alfred B. | Reid, James S. C. (Stirling) |
| Courtauld, Major John Sewell | Hume, Sir George Hopwood | Reid, William Allan (Derby) |
| Courthope, Colonel Sir George L. | Hurd, Sir Percy | Rentoul Sir Gervals S,. |
| Craddock, Sir Reginald Henry | Hurst, Sir Gerald B. | Roberts, Aled (Wrexham) |
| Craven-Ellis, William | Inskip, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas W. H. | Roberts, Sir Samuel (Ecclesall) |
| Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. | Jackson, Sir Henry (Wandsworth, C.) | Robinson, John Roland |
| Crooke, J. Smedley | Jesson, Major Thomas E. | Ropner, Colonel L. |
| Crookshank, Col.C.de Windt (Bootle) | Johnston, J. W. (Clackmannan) | Rosbotham, Sir Samuel |
| Crookshank, Capt. H. C. (Gainsb'ro) | Johnstone, Harcourt (S. Shields) | Ross, Ronald D. |
| Cross, R. H. | Jones, Sir G. W. H. (Stoke New'gton) | Ross Taylor, Walter (Woodbridge) |
| Crossley, A. C. | Jones, Lewis (Swansea, West) | Runge, Norah Cecil |
| Curry, A. C. | Kerr, Hamilton W. | Rutherford, John (Edmonton) |
| Dalkeith, Earl of | Kimball, Lawrence | Rutherford, Sir John Hugo (Liverp'l) |
| Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) | Knox, Sir Alfred | Salmon, Sir Isidore |
| Denman, Hon. R. D. | Lamb, Sir Joseph Quinton | Salt, Edward W. |
| Dickie, John P. | Law, Sir Alfred | Samuel, Samuel (W'dtworth, Putney) |
| Donner, P. W. | Lees-Jones, John | Sandeman, Sir A. N. Stewart |
| Doran, Edward | Lennox-Boyd, A. T. | Sanderson, Sir Frank Barnard |
| Drewe, Cedric | Lewis, Oswald | Savery, Samuel Servington |
| Dunglass, Lord | Liddall, Walter S. | Shakespeare, Geoffrey H. |
| Eales, John Frederick | Lindsay, Noel Ker | Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell) |
| Eastwood, John Francis | Lloyd, Geoffrey | Shepperson, Sir Ernest W. |
| Elliot, Major Rt. Hon. Walter E. | Lockwood, John C. (Hackney, C.) | Shute, Colonel J. J. |
| Ellis, Sir R. Geoffrey | Lovat-Fraser, James Alexander | Skelton, Archibald Noel |
| Elliston, Captain George Sampson | Lyons, Abraham Montagu | Smiles, Lieut.-Col. Sir Walter D. |
| Elmley, Viscount | Mabane, William | Smith, Bracewell (Dulwich) |
| Emmott, Charles E. G. C. | MacAndrew, Capt. J. O. (Ayr) | Smith, R. W.(Ab'rd'n amp; Kinc'dine, C.) |
| Emrys-Evans, P. V. | McCorquodale, M. S. | Smith-Carington, Neville W. |
| Entwistle, Cyril Fullard | MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) | Smithers, Waldron |
| Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare) | Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) | Somervell, Donald Bradley |
| Erskine-Boist, Capt. C. C. (Blackpool) | McKeag, William | Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor) |
| Evans, David Owen (Cardigan) | McKie, John Hamilton | Soper, Richard |
| Falle, Sir Bertram G. | Maclay, Hon. Joseph Paton | Sotheron-Estcourt, Captain T. E. |
| Fermoy, Lord | McLean, Major Sir Alan | Southby, Commander Archibald R. J |
| Spears, Brigadier-General Edward L. | Thompson, Luke | Wedderburn, Henry James Scrymgeour- |
| Spencer, Captain Richard A. | Thomson, Sir Frederick Charles | Wells, Sydney Richard |
| Spender-Clay, Rt. Hon. Herbert H. | Thorp, Linton Theodore | Whiteside, Borras Noel H. |
| Spens, William Patrick | Titchfield, Major the Marquess of | Whyte, Jardine Bell |
| Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westmorland) | Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement | Wills, Wilfrid D. |
| Stevenson, James | Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George |
| Stewart, J. H. (Fife, E.) | Wallace, Captain D. E. (Hornsey) | Wolmer, Rt. Hon. Viscount |
| Stones, James | Wallace, John (DunferMilne) | Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir H. Kingsley |
| Storey, Samuel | Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend) | Wood, Sir Murdoch McKenzie (Banff) |
| Strauss, Edward A. | Ward, Sarah Adelaide (Cannock) | Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton (S'v'noaks) |
| Strickland, Captain W. F. | Wardlaw-Milne, Sir John S. | |
| Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Hart | Warrender, Sir Victor A. G. | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Tate, Mavis Constance | Waterhouse, Captain Charles | Lieut.-Colonel Sir A. Lambert Ward and Mr. Womersley. |
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| Attlee, Clement Richard | Hall, George H. (Merthyr Tydvil) | Nathan, Major H. L. |
| Buchanan, George | Hirst, George Henry | Parkinson, John Allen |
| Cape, Thomas | Jenkins, Sir William | Price, Gabriel |
| Cocks, Frederick Seymour | Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) | Salter, Dr. Alfred |
| Cove, William G. | Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Smith, Tom (Normanton) |
| Cripps, Sir Stafford | Kirkwood, David | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Daggar, George | Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George | Wallhead, Richard C. |
| Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Lawson, John James | Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah |
| Dobble, William | Logan, David Gilbert | Williams, David (Swansea, East) |
| Edwards, Charles | Lunn, William | Williams, Edward John (Ogmore) |
| Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) | McEntee, Valentine L. | Williams, Dr. John H. (Llanelly) |
| Greenwood, Rt. Hon. Arthur | McGovern, John | Williams, Thomas (York, Don Valley) |
| Grenfell, David Rees (Glamorgan) | Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) | |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Mainwaring, William Henry | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Groves, Thomas E. | Maxton, James | Mr. C. Macdonald and Mr. John. |
| Grundy, Thomas W. | Milner, Major James |