HC Deb 01 June 1933 vol 278 cc2105-9

Sections nineteen and twenty of the Finance Act, 1920, and Sections twenty-one and twenty-two of the Finance Act, 1924, as amended by any subsequent enactment, shall have effect as if for the words "fifty pounds" there were substituted the words "sixty pounds."—[Mr. Logan.']

Brought up, and read the First time.

Mr. LOGAN

I beg to move, "That the Clause be read a Second time."

5.6 p.m.

Mr. CHARLES BROWN

I suppose all Members are familiar, perhaps from personal experience, with the type of case to which we seek to give some relief in this new Clause. This allowance was first granted in the Finance Act, 1920, and the amount was £45. By the Finance Act of 1924 it was increased to £60. In the crisis Budget of August, 1931, it was reduced to £50. We propose to restore it to the figure of £60 which obtained between 1924 and 1931. The Chancellor of the Exchequer has told the Committee on more than one occasion that confidence is largely restored in the country through the policy that has been pursued during his term of office, and it would be taken as a sign of his own confidence in the policy that he is pursuing if he granted this concession. If he has no fear for the future, I cannot doubt that he will grant it. If he does, it will be practically the only concession that he has made in the course of these Debates.

5.8 p.m.

Mr. HORE-BELISHA

The hon. Member has correctly narrated the history of this allowance. It was based on the recommendation of the Royal Commission on Income Tax in 1920, upon the cost of living which was then 230 per cent. above pre-War, whereas it is now only 136 per cent. Therefore, the allowances on that basis are higher than the Royal Commission recommended. The general reduction of allowances in 1931 was part of a scheme. The hon. Member wishes to restore one part of the scheme and not the other. The cost of this proposal would be £100,000 and, if all the allowances were restored, it would be £25,000,000 and the Budget would obviously be unbalanced. The Clause cannot be accepted as it stands, because it would have the illogical result that a widower with a housekeeper would receive an aggregate allowance of £160—£100 personal allowance and £60 housekeeper allowance—whereas a married couple would receive only £150. So that a man with a housekeeper would be considerably better off than a married man living with his wife. On those grounds I ask the Committee to reject the Clause.

Question put, "That the Clause be read a Second time."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 34; Noes, 257.

Division No. 220.] AYES. [5.12 p.m.
Attlee, Clement Richard Hirst, George Henry Price, Gabriel
Banfield, John William John, William Rathbone, Eleanor
Batey, Joseph Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) Smith, Tom (Normanton)
Brown. C. w. E. (Notts., Mansfield) Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Thorne, William James
Cape. Thomas Kirkwood, David Tinker, John Joseph
Cocks, Frederick Seymour Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah
Cripps, Sir Stafford Logan, David Gilbert Williams, David (Swansea, East)
Daggar, George McEntee, Valentine L. Williams, Thomas (York, Don Valley)
Edwards, Charles McGovern, John
Grenfell, David Rees (Glamorgan) Mainwaring, William Henry TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Groves, Thomas E. Maxton, James Mr. D. Graham and Mr. G. Macdonald.
Grundy, Thomas W. Owen. Major Goronwy
Hicks, Ernest George Parkinson, John Allen
NOES.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Davies. Maj.Geo. F. (Somerset.Yeovil) Hunter, Capt. M. J. (Brigg)
Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.) Davison. Sir William Henry Hurd, Sir Percy
Albery, Irving James Denman, Hon. R. D. Inskip, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas W. H.
Allen, Lt.-Col. J.Sandeman (B'k'nh'd) Denville, Alfred Jamisson, Douglas
Anstruther-Gray, W. J. Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. Jones, Lewis (Swansea, West)
Applin, Lieut.-Col. Reginald V. K. Dickie, John p. Ker, J. Campbell
Astor, Viscountess (Plymouth, Sutton) Donner, P. W. Kerr, Hamilton W.
Baillie, Sir Adrian W. M. Doran, Edward Kimball, Lawrence
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Dower, Captain A. V. G. Knox, Sir Alfred
Balfour, Capt. Harold (I. of Thanet) Drewe, Cedric Lamb, Sir Joseph Quinton
Banks, Sir Reginald Mitchell Duckworth, George A. V. Law, Sir Alfred
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Dugdale, Captain Thomas Lionel Law, Richard K. (Hull, S. W.)
Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar Duncan, James A.L.(Kensington, N.) Leckie, J. A.
Beaumont, M. W. (Bucks., Aylesbury) Edmondson, Major A. J. Lees-Jones, John
Beaumont, Hn. R. E. B. (Portsm'th, C.) Ellis, Sir R. Geoffrey Leighton, Major B. E. P.
Belt, Sir Alfred L. Elliston, Captain George Sampson Levy, Thomas
Benn, Sir Arthur Shirley Elmley, Viscount Liddall, Walter S.
Betterton, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry B. Emmott, Charles E. G. C. Lindsay, Noel Ker
Birchall, Major Sir John Dearman Emrys-Evans, P. V. Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Cunliffe-
Bird, Ernest Roy (Yorks., Skipton) Entwistle, Cyril Fullard Lloyd, Geoffrey
Bird Sir Robert B. (Wolverh'pton W.) Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare) Lockwood, John C. (Hackney, C.)
Blindell, James Erskine-Boist, Capt. C. C. (Bik'pool) Lovat-Fraser, James Alexander
Boulton, W. W. Evans, Capt. Arthur (Cardiff, S.) Mabane, William
Bower, Lieut.-Com. Robert Tatton Evans, David Owen (Cardigan) MacAndrew, Lt.-Col C. G. (Partick)
Boyce, H. Lesile Everard, W. Lindsay McEwen, Captain J. H. F.
Braithwaite, J. G. (Hillsborough) Falle, Sir Bertram G. McKie, John Hamilton
Briscoe, Capt. Richard George Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst McLean, Major Sir Alan
Broadbent, Colonel John Foot, Dingle (Dundee) McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston)
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Foot, Isaac (Cornwall, Bodmin) Macquisten, Frederick Alexander
Brown, Col. D.C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) Fox, Sir Gifford Maitland, Adam
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Berks., Newb'y) Galbraith, James Francis Wallace Makins, Brigadler-General Ernest
Browne, Captain A. C. Ganzoni, Sir John Mallalieu, Edward Lancelot
Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Mander, Geoffrey le M.
Burghley, Lord Gledhill, Gilbert Manningham-Buller. Lt.-Col. Sir M.
Burnett, John George Gluckstein, Louts Halle Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R.
Campbell, Edward Taswell (Bromley) Goff, Sir Park Marsden, Commander Arthur
Campbell-Johnston, Malcolm Goodman, Colonel Albert W. Martin, Thomas B.
Carver, Major William H. Gower, Sir Robert Mason, David M. (Edinburgh, E.)
Cautley, Sir Henry S. Grattan-Doyle, Sir Nicholas Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel John
Cayzer, Sir Charles (Chester, Clty) Gretton. Colonel Rt. Hon. John Merriman, Sir F. Boyd
Cayzer, Maj. Sir H. R. (Prtsmth., S.) Grimston, R. V. Mills, Sir Frederick (Leyton, E.)
Cazalet, Thelma (Islington, E.) Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. F. E. Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest)
Cazalet, Capt. V. A. (Chippenham) Gunston, Captain D. W. Milne, Charles
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord Hugh Hales, Harold K. Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham)
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. Sir J. A. (Birm., W) Hamilton, Sir R. W.(Orkney & Zetl'nd) Molson, A. Hugh Elsdale
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N.(Edgbaston) Hammersley, Samuel S. Moreing, Adrian C.
Clarry, Reginald George Hanbury, Cecil Morris, John Patrick (Salford, N.)
Cobb, Sir Cyril Hanley, Dennis A. Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh)
Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. Hartland, George A. Morrison, William Shepherd
Colfox, Major William Philip Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) Murray-Phillpson, Hylton Raiph
Conant, R. J. E. Haslam, Henry (Horncastle) Natlon, Brigadler-General J. J. H.
Cook. Thomas A. Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Cuthbsrt M. Nicholson, Godfrey (Morpeth)
Cooke, Douglas Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. Nicholson, Rt. Hn. W. G. (Petersf'ld)
Cooper, A. Duff Hepworth, Joseph North, Edward T.
Courthope, Colonel Sir George L. Herbert. Capt. S. (Abbey Division) Nunn, William
Craven-Ellis. William Hills. Major Rt. Hon. John Waller O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Sir Hugh
Crooke, J. Smedley Holdsworth, Herbert Ormiston, Thomas
Crookshank, Gapt. H. C. (Gainsb'ro) Hore-Belisha, Lesile Pearson, William G.
Croom-Johnson, R. P. Hornby, Frank Peat, Charles U.
Curry, A. C. Howitt, Dr. Alfred B. penny, Sir George
Dalkeith. Earl of Hudson, Capt. A. U. M.(Hackney, N.) Petherick, M.
Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. C. C. Hume. Sir George Hopwood Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple)
Peto, Geoffrey K. (W'verh'pt'n, Bliston) Scone, Lord Thorp, Linton Theodore
Pickering, Ernest H. Shakespeare, Geoffrey H. Todd, A. L. S. (Kingswinford)
Pickford, Hon. Mary Ada Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell) Touche, Gordon Cosmo
Pike, Cecil F. Smith, R. W. (Ab'rd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Potter, John Smith-Carington, Neville W. Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon
PowNail, Sir Assheton Smithers, Waldron Wallace, John (DunferMilne)
Ramsay, Alexander (W. Bromwich) Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor) Ward, Sarah Adelaide (Cannock)
Ramsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Mldlcthlan) Soper, Richard Wardlaw-Milne, Sir John S.
Ramsden, Sir Eugene Southby, Commander Archibald R. J. Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Rankin, Robert Spears, Brigadler-General Edward L. Wayland, Sir William A
Ratcliffe, Arthur Spens, William Patrick Wedderburn, Henry James Scrymgeour.
Rea, Walter Russell Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westmorland) Wells, Sydney Richard
Reid, Capt. A, Cunningham Steel-Maitland, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur Weymouth, Viscount
Rentoul, Sir Gervals S. Stevenson, James White, Henry Graham
Roberts, Aled (Wrexham) Stewart, J. H. (Fife, E.) Whiteside, Borras Noel H.
Ropner, Colonel L. Stones, James Williams, Herbert G. (Croydon, S.)
Rosbotham, Sir Samuel Strauss, Edward A. Wills, Wilfrid D.
Runge, Norah Cecil Strickland, Captain W. F. Wilson, G. H. A. (Cambridge U.)
Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray F. Womersley, Walter James
Rutherford, John (Edmonton) Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Hart Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir H. Kingsley
Salmon, Sir Isidore Summersby, Charles H. Wood, Sir Murdoch McKenzie (Banff)
Salt, Edward w. Tate, Mavis Constance
Samuel, Sir Arthur Michael (F'nham) Templeton, William P. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen) Thomas, James p L. (Hereford) Captain Sir George Bowyer and
Sandeman, Sir A. N. Stewart Thomson, Sir Frederick Charles Lieut.-Colonel Sir A. Lambert Ward.