HC Deb 24 July 1933 vol 280 cc2359-63

Again considered in Committee.

[Captain BOURNE in the Chair.]

Postponed Proceeding resumed on Question proposed on consideration of Question, That a sum, not exceeding £37,939,000, be granted to His Majesty, to complete the sum necessary to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the

year ending on the 31st day of March, 1934, for the Salaries and Expenses of the Post Office, including Telegraphs and Telephones."

It being after Ten of the Clock, the CHAIRMAN proceeded, pursuant to Standing Order No. 15, to put forthwith the Questions necessary to dispose of the Vote under consideration.

Question put, "That a sum, not exceeding £37,938,900, be granted for the said Service."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 45; Noes, 316.

Division No. 285.] AYES [10.20 p.m.
Adams, D. M. (Poplar, South) Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Mender, Geoffrey le M.
Attlee, Clement Richard Groves, Thomas E. Milner, Major James
Banfield, John William Grundy, Thomas W. Owen, Major Goronwy
Batey, Joseph Hall, George H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Parkinson, John Allen
Bevan, Aneurin (Ebbw Vale) Hicks, Ernest George Price, Gabriel
Brown, C. W. E. (Notts., Mansfield) Hirst, George Henry Salter, Dr. Alfred
Cape, Thomas John, William Smith, Tom (Normanton)
Cocks, Frederick Seymour Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Thorp, Linton Theodore
Cove, William G. Kirkwood, David Tinker, John Joseph
Cripps, Sir Stafford Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George Wallhead, Richard C.
Daggar, George Lawson, John James Williams, David (Swansea, East)
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Leonard, William Williams, Edward John (Demote)
Debbie, William Logan, David Gilbert Williams, Thomas (York, Don Valley)
Edwards, Charles Lunn, William
Greenwood, Rt. Hon. Arthur McEntee, Valentine L. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Grenfell, David Rees (Glamorgan) Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) Mr. G. Macdonald and Mr. D.
Graham.
NOES.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Borodale, Viscount Clayton, Sir Christopher
Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.) Boulton, W. W. Cobb, Sir Cyril
Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G. Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D.
Albery, Irving James Bower, Lieut.-Com. Robert Tatton Colfox, Major William Philip
Allen, Sir J. Sandeman (Liverp'l, W.) Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W. Colman, N. C. D.
Allen, Lt.-Col. J. Sandeman (B'k'nh'd.) Braithwaite, J. G. (Hillsborough) Conant, R. J. E.
Allen, William (Stoke-on-Trent) Brass, Captain Sir William Cooke, Douglas
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Briant, Frank Copeland, Ida
Anstruther-Gray, W. J. Briscoe, Capt. Richard George Courthope, Colonel Sir George L.
Applin, Lieut.-Col. Reginald V. K. Broadbent, Colonel John Cowan, D. M.
Aske, Sir Robert William Brocklebank, C. E. R. Craddock, Sir Reginald Henry
Atholl, Duchess of Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) Cranborne, Viscount
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Brown.Brig -G en. H. C.(Berks., Newb'y) Crooke, J. Smedley
Baldwin-Webb, Colonel J. Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T Crookshank, Col. C de Windt (Bootie)
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Burgin, Dr. Edward Leslie Crookshank, Capt. H. C. (Gainsb'ro)
Balfour, Capt. Harold (I. of Thanet) Burnett, John George Cross, R. H.
Balniel, Lord Butt, Sir Alfred Crossley, A. C.
Banks, Sir Reginald Mitchell Caine, G. R. Hall- Cruddas, Lieut.-Colonel Bernard
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Campbell, Sir Edward Taswell (Brmly) Curry, A. C.
Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar Campbell-Johnston, Malcolm Daikeith, Earl of
Beauchamp, Sir Brograve Campbell Caporn, Arthur Cecil Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. C. C.
Beaumont, Hon. R.E.B. (Portsm'th,C.) Carver, Major William H. Davies, Maj. Geo. F.(Somerset,Yeovll)
Belt, Sir Alfred L. Cassels, James Dale Davison, Sir William Henry
Berm, Sir Arthur Shirley Castlereagh, Viscount Dawson, Sir Philip
Bennett, Capt. Sir Ernest Nathaniel Cayzer, Maj. Sir H. R. (Prtsmth., S.) Dicke, John P.
Bernays, Robert Cazalet, Capt. V. A. (Chippenham) Donner, P. W.
Bevan, Stuart James (Holborn) Chapman, Sir Samuel (Edinburgh, S.) Doran, Edward
Birchen, Major Sir John Dearman Clarke, Frank Dower, Captain A. V. G.
Blindell, James Clarry, Reginald George Drewe, Cedric
Dugdale, Captain Thomas Lionel Lewis, Oswald Ross, Ronald D.
Duggan, Hubert John Liddall, Walter S. Ross Taylor, Walter (Woodbridge)
Duncan,James A. L. (Kensington, N.) Lindsay, Noel Ker Ruggles-Brise, Colonel E. A.
Eastwood, John Francis Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Cunliffe- Runge, Norah Cecil
Eden, Robert Anthony Lloyd, Geoffrey Russell, Albert (Kirkcaldy)
Eimley, Viscount Locker-Lampoon, Rt. H n. G. (Wd. G'n) Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Emmott, Charles E. G. C. Lockwood, John C. (Hackney, C.) Russell, R. J. (Eddisbury)
Emrys-Evans, P. V. Loder, Captain J. de Vera Rutherford, Sir John Hugo (Liverp'l)
Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare) Lumley, Captain Lawrence R. Salmon, Sir Isidore
Evans. Capt. Arthur (Cardiff, S.) Lyons, Abraham Montagu Salt, Edward W.
Evans, David Owen (Cardigan) Mabane, William Sandeman, Sir A. N. Stewart
Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univ.) MacAndrew, Lt.-Col C. G. (Partick) Sassoon, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip A. G. D.
Falle, Sir Bertram G. MacAndrew, Capt. J. O. (Ayr) Savery, Samuel Servington
Fielden, Edward Brocklehurst McCorquodale, M. S. Scone, Lord
Fleming, Edward Lascelles MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell)
Fox, Sir Gifford Macdonald, Sir Murdoch (Inverness) Shaw, Captain William T. (Forfar)
Fraser, Captain Ian Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) Shepperson, Sir Ernest W.
Fremantle, Sir Francis McEwen, Captain J. H. F. Simmonds, Oliver Edwin
Fuller, Captain A. G. McKie, John Hamilton Smiles, Lieut.-Col. Sir Walter D.
Galbraith, James Francis Wallace Maclay, Hon. Joseph Paton Smith, Bracewell (Dulwich)
Ganzoni, Sir John McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston) Smith, Sir J. Walker-(Barrow-In-F.)
Gauit, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton Magnay, Thomas Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'cflne, C.)
Gillett, Sir George Masterman Maitland, Adam Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Makins, Brigadier-General Ernest Smithers. Waldron
Gluckstein, Louis Halle Mallalieu, Edward Lancelot Somervell, Donald Bradley
Goff, Sir Park Manningham-Buller, Lt.-Col, Sir M. Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor)
Goidle, Noel B. Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R. Somerville, D. G. (Willesden, East)
Goodman, Colonel Albert W. Marsden, Commander Arthur Soper, Richard
Gower, Sir Robert Martin, Thomas B. Sotheron-Estcourt, Captain T. E.
Grattan-Doyle, Sir Nicholas Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel John Southby, Commander Archibald R. J.
Grenfell, E. C. (City of London) Merriman, Sir F. Boyd Spears, Brigadier-General Edward L.
Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest) Spencer, Captain Richard A.
Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro',W). Mitchell, Harold P.(Br'tt'd & Chisw'k) Spans, William Patrick
Grimston, R. V. Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Stanley, Lord (Lancaster, Fylde)
Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. F. E. Molson, A. Hugh Eisdale Stanley, Hon. 0. F. G. (Westmorland)
Guinness, Thomas L. E. B. Monsell, Rt. Hon. Sir B. Eyres Steel-Maitland, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur
Guy, J. C. Morrison Moore, Lt.-Col. Thomas C. R. (Ayr) Stevenson, James
Hacking. Rt. Hon. Douglas H. Moore-Brabazon, Lieut.-Col. J. T. C. Stewart, William J. (Belfast, S.)
Hales, Harold K. Moreing, Adrian C. Storey, Samuel
Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford) Morris. Owen Temple (Cardiff, E.) Strickland, Captain W. F.
Hamilton, Sir R. W.(Orkney & Zetl'nd) Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Hammersley, Samuel S. Morrison, William Shepherd Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray F.
Hanbury, Cecil Moss, Captain H. J. Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Hart
Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Munro, Patrick Tate, Mavis Constance
Harris, Sir Percy Nail, Sir Joseph Thompson, Luke
Hartington, Marquess of Nail-Cain, Hon. Ronald Thomson, Sir Frederick Charles
Harvey, George (Lambeth,Kenningt'n) Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H. Thorp, Linton Theodore
Haslam, Sir John (Bolton) Normand, Wilfrid Guild Todd, Capt. A. J. K. (B'wick-on-T.)
Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Cuthbert M. North, Edward T. Todd, A. L. S. (Kingswinford)
Hellgers, Captain F. F. A. Nunn, William Touche, Gordon Cosmo
Herbert, Capt. S. (Abbey Division) O'Connor, Terence James Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Sir Hugh Turton, Robert Hugh
Holdsworth, Herbert Patrick, Colin M. Wallace, Captain D. E. (Hornsey)
Hore-Belisha, Leslie Pearson, William G. Wallace, John (Dunfermline)
Hornby, Frank Peat, Charles U. Ward, LL-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull)
Horobin, Ian M. Penny, Sir George Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend)
Horsbrugh, Florence Perkins. Walter R. D. Ward, Sarah Adelaide (Cannock)
Howitt, Dr. Alfred B. Petherick, M. Warrender, Sir Victor A. G.
Hudson, Robert Spear (Southport) Pickford, Hon. Mary Ada Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Hume, Sir George Hopwood Powell. Lieut.-Col. Evelyn G. H. Watt, Captain George Steven H.
Inskip, Rt. Hon. Sir Thomas W. H. Pownall, Sir Assheton Wells, Sydney Richard
Jackson, Sir Henry (Wandsworth, C.) Raikes, Henry V. A. M. Weymouth, Viscount
James, Wing-Com. A. W. H. Ramsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Midlothian) White, Henry Graham
Jamleson, Douglas Ramsay. T. B. W. (Western Isles) Whiteside, Borras Noel H.
Janner, Barnett Ramsbotham, Herwaid Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Joel, Dudley J. Barnetto Ramsden, Sir Eugene Williams, Herbert G. (Croydon, S.)
Jones, Sir G. W. H. (Stoke New'gton) Rathbone, Eleanor Wills, Wilfrid D.
Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Ray, Sir William Wilson, Lt.-Col. Sir Arnold (Hertf'd)
Jones, Lewis (Swansea, West) Rea, Walter Russell Wilson, Clyde T. (West Toxteth)
Kerr, Lieut.-Col. Charles (Montrose) Reed, Arthur C. (Exeter) Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Kimball, Lawrence Reid, Capt. A. Cunningham- Wise, Alfred R.
Knox, Sir Alfred Reid. James S. C. (Stirling) Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir H. Kingsley
Lamb, Sir Joseph Quinton Remer. John R. Wood, Sir Murdoch McKenzie (Banff)
Law, Sir Alfred Rentoul, Sir Gervais S.
Leckie, J. A. Rhys, Hon. Charles Arthur U. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.
Lees-Jones, John Robinson, John Roland Captain Austin Hudson and Mr.
Leighton, Major B. E. P. Ropner, Colonel L. Womersley,
Levy, Thomas Rosbotham, Sir Thomas

Original Question put, and agreed to.

The CHAIRMAN then proceeded, pursuant to Standing Order No. 15, to put severally the Questions, That the

total amounts of the Votes outstanding in the several Classes of the Civil Estimates, including a Supplementary Estimate, and the total amounts of the Votes outstanding in, the Estimates for the Revenue Departments, the Navy, Army, and Air, be granted for the Services defined in, those Classes and Estimates.