HC Deb 19 July 1933 vol 280 cc1812-4
34. Mr. J. P. MORRIS

asked the Prime Minister whether he will consider proposing the appointment of a Select Committee of this House to examine and report on the advisability of amending the Standing Orders and Rules of the House, whether by imposing a time limit for speeches or otherwise, so as to give to back-bench Members greater opportunities of participating in important Debates?

Mr. BALDWIN

I do not think that any useful purpose would be served by the appointment of a Select Committee to consider imposing a time limit on the length of hon. Members' speeches. I venture to suggest to the House that the solution rests with the right hon. and hon. Members themselves and, in this connection, I would commend to their notice the remarks made by Mr. Speaker on 3rd November, 1931, and also in reply to a question put to him on the 2nd June, 1932.

Mr. MORRIS

Is my right hon. Friend aware that there is grave discontent among his own back-bench supporters caused by certain right hon. Gentlemen speaking too long and too frequently, that such discontent is not conducive to consistent enthusiasm for diligent application to Parliamentary duties, and will he, in the light of this information, please reconsider his decision?

Mr. DINGLE FOOT

Can the right hon. Gentleman say whether the Government have any control over the right hon. Gentleman in question?

Mr. BALDWIN

In regard to that my withers are completely unwrung, I have been a Member of the House for many years and I have never known a period, even when I was a back bencher, when I did not share entirely and fully the complaint made by the hon. Member.

Sir BASIL PETO

May I ask the right hon. Gentleman whether he does not think that the new arrangement whereby in the OFFICIAL REPORT the time of the Commencement of every speech is printed before the hon. Member's name will, if it is given a fair chance, conduce to shortening speeches?

Mr. BALDWIN

I do not think that would be the case. It seems to me that the longer the speech the better pleased the constituents.

Mr. MORRIS

If I bring evidence in support of the large extent to which my proposals are supported by back bench Members in this House, will the right hon. Gentleman reconsider his decision?

Mr. BALDWIN

I do not think it is a case of reconsidering my decision. I am perfectly well aware of the feeling and always have been aware of it. The only remedy, if this House is to be a House of free debate, rests with the House itself.

Mr. MACQUISTEN

Is it not a fact that some speeches seem very long but are very short?

Mr. HALES rose

Mr. SPEAKER

Does the hon. Member rise to a point of Order?

Mr. HALES

Yes. I should like to ask, speaking as one of those who suffer from this disability, whether a vote of the House could not be taken on the question?