HC Deb 27 October 1932 vol 269 cc1125-6
13. Mr. HICKS

asked the Minister of Labour whether he is aware that the London County Council, in assessing the means of applicants for transitional benefit, take into account the value of meals given at school to children; whether this is the usual practice of public assistance authorities; and, if so, whether this practice is approved by his Department?

Sir H. BETTERTON

I understand that regard is had to the value of these meals in the London County Council area and that this is commonly, though not universally, the practice elsewhere. As the same practice is followed by the London authority in dealing with applications for public assistance their procedure is in conformity with the requirements of the Order in Council governing transitional payments.

Mr. HICKS

Does the Minister not regard such a measure as being particularly vicious and spiteful?

Sir H. BETTERTON

The hon. Gentleman really must not ask me to give him an opinion as to the practice of public assistance committees.

Mr. THORNE

Will the right hon. Gentleman make representations to the Cabinet, in bringing up the Bill to deal with the means test, to make this one of the considerations, about not taking into account meals given to children in the schools?

Sir H. BETTERTON

I must ask the hon. Gentleman to await the Bill. I cannot anticipate it.

Mr. THORNE

You can make representations surely?

Mr. HICKS

The right hon. Gentleman gave an opinion about Rotherham. Why cannot he give an opinion in this case?

Sir H. BETTERTON

The reason I gave an opinion about Rotherham was that Rotherham was quite clearly infringing an Act passed by this House.

14. Mr. ROBINSON

asked the Minister of Labour whether he is aware that transitional payment is on a lower scale to people living in common lodging-houses than to those living in other lodgings; and on what grounds this distinction is made?

Sir H. BETTERTON

The practice of authorities in this matter depends on their practice in public assistance, and I would ask my hon. Friend to await the reply to a similar question which he has addressed to my right hon. Friend the Minister of Health.