HC Deb 07 June 1932 vol 266 cc1785-890
The MINISTER of HEALTH (Sir Hilton Young)

I beg to move, in page 1, to leave out the words and for charging on owners of property expenditure on improvements within areas to which schemes apply. The omission of these words is consequential upon the decision of the Standing Committee to omit Clause 22, which dealt with expenditure on public improvements in areas to which planning schemes applied. As that Clause has gone, this phrase in the Title goes too.

Amendment agreed to.

Sir H. YOUNG

I beg to move, That the Bill be re-committed to a Committee of the whole House in respect of the Clause and Amendment standing on the Notice Paper in the name of the Minister of Health and in respect of the Amendments standing on the Notice Paper in the name of the hon. Member for Greenwich and in the name of the hon. Member for the Scottish Universities. It is my intention to accept the Amendment to this Motion in the name of the right hon. Member for Wakefield (Mr. Greenwood)—in line 2, to leave out the words "the Clause and Amendment," and to insert instead thereof the words "Clause six and the Clause"—and the Amendment in the name of the hon. Member for Southampton (Mr. Craven-Ellis) which will permit of a discussion on recommittal of an Amendment to Clause 26 in the hon. Member's name. I do this without prejudice to the merits of the Amendments which will be moved under the recommittal Motion, but I understand that the acceptance of these Amendments to that Motion is the only way of obtaining a free discussion upon a certain wide principle which the House has expressed a desire to discuss. There is, I believe, only one wide question on the merits of Clause 6 to be discussed, which can no doubt be satisfactorily dealt with on the first Amendment.

Mr. ARTHUR GREENWOOD

I beg to move, in line 2, to leave out the words "the Clause and Amendment," and to insert instead thereof the words "Clause six and the Clause."

I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for indicating that he will accept my Amendment, so that we can have a general discussion on Clause 6. We do not wish to repeat all the arguments and Debates on all the Amendments that were raised in Committee. We are interested primarily in the question of the scope of the Bill. There is another question in regard to procedure which is covered by an Amendment in the name of my hon. Friend the Member for Hems-worth (Mr. Price)—in page 5, line 26, after the word "resolution," to insert the words applying to any land not within the district or, as the case may be, districts aforesaid.

Question, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question," put, and negatived.

Proposed words there inserted.

Mr. CRAVEN-ELLIS

I beg to move, in line 5, at the end, to add the words: and in respect of the Amendment to Clause 26 standing on the Notice Paper in the name of the hon. Member for Southampton. The Amendment to Clause 26 relates to land which is included in the resolution to town plan and is scheduled as an open space. Land which is so scheduled is in an entirely different category from that of any other land which appears within the area of the resolution, and I submit that in this particular case—

Sir AUSTEN CHAMBERLAIN

Do I understand Mr. Speaker, that you have passed over the Amendment standing in the name of the hon. Member for St. Albans (Sir F. Fremantle) and my name—in line 5, at the end, to insert the words: and in respect of the Amendments to Clause 6 standing in the name of the hon. Member for St. Albans. I thought that the Minister of Health indicated that on the recommittal of the Bill it would be a proper occasion to discuss it.

Mr. SPEAKER

That Amendment is covered by the first Amendment to the Motion of the Minister of Health. We have included the whole of Clause 6.

Miss RATHBONE

Would you, Mr. Speaker, kindly explain at what point there will be an opportunity for the wide discussion on the recommittal which we were promised on the Report stage?

Mr. SPEAKER

I do not remember any promise for a wide discussion in Committee except on the actual Amendments which will be moved and which are included in the recommitttal Motion. These are the only subjects that will be open for discussion on the Committee stage.

Miss RATHBONE

The Minister of Health said just now that he accepted the Amendment because it was the only way of giving an opportunity for a wide discussion, but where is the wide discussion to take place? It has already taken place in Standing Committee, and the matter has been carried on further. Is a wide discussion to take place again in the House, and, if so, at what stage?

Mr. SPEAKER

The Bill is to be recommitted in respect of Clause 6 and Amendments to Clause 26. These are the only two subjects on which there will be an opportunity for discussion.

Mr. CRAVEN-ELLIS

I urge that my Amendment should be accepted.

Mr. MICHAEL BEAUMONT

I beg to second the Amendment.

Ordered, That the Bill be re-committed to a Committee of the whole House in respect of Clause six and the Clause standing on the Notice Paper in the name of the Minister of Health and in respect of the Amendments standing on the Notice Paper in the name of the hon. Member for Greenwich and in the name of the hon. Member for the- Scottish Universities, and in respect of the Amendment to Clause 26 standing on the Notice Paper in the name of the hon. Member for Southampton.

Bill accordingly considered in Committee.

[Captain BOURNE in the Chair.]

    cc1787-91
  1. CLAUSE 2.—(Local authority for purposes of Act.) 1,535 words
  2. cc1791-847
  3. CLAUSE 6.—(Preparation or adoption of schemes.) 25,312 words, 4 divisions
  4. c1847
  5. CLAUSE 17.—(Power to make orders for preservation of certain buildings.) 93 words
  6. cc1848-50
  7. CLAUSE 26.—(Acquisition of land for open spaces and playing fields in area covered by planning resolution.) 885 words
  8. cc1850-1
  9. CLAUSE 44.—(Expenses of, and borrowing by, local authorities.) 206 words
  10. cc1851-2
  11. CLAUSE 45.—(Special provisions as to the administrative county of London.) 237 words
  12. c1852
  13. CLAUSE 49.—(Interpretation.) 59 words
  14. c1852
  15. NEW CLAUSE.—(Power to contribute towards expenses of owners in connection with the proposal of schemes.) 175 words
  16. cc1852-90
  17. SIXTH SCHEDULE.—(Adaptations and modifications of this Act in its application to Scotland.) 15,066 words