HC Deb 30 September 1931 vol 257 cc413-9
Mr. ARNOTT

I beg to move, in page 3, line 37, after the word "oils," to insert the words "other than turpentine."

Every Member of this House has voted for this Amendment at one time or another. The Chancellor of the Exchequer himself moved a similar Amendment in the clays gone by, and when the duty was only 2d. Hon. Members opposite supported a similar Amendment in the earlier part of this year. Therefore, every hon. Member in the House will support this Amendment, at least that is what one would expect. The duty on white spirit at the present moment is 100 per cent. and the duty

on turpentine has been quadrupled since the Chancellor of the Exchequer first opposed it. Every argument that had been urged before against this duty can be urged with even greater force tonight.

Lieut.-Colonel Sir FREDERICK HALL

I am entirely opposed to—

It being Six of the Clock, the CHAIRMAN proceeded, pursuant to the order of the House of the 22nd September, to put forthwith the Question on the Amendment already proposed from the Chair.

Question put, "That those words be there inserted."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 216; Noes, 278.

Division No. 505.] AYES. [6.0 p.m.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Ammon, Charles George Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bliston)
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Arnott, John Baldwin, Oliver (Dudley)
Alexander, Rt. Hon. A. V. (Hillsbro') Attlee, Clement Richard Barnes, Alfred John
Alpass, J. H. Ayles, Walter Barr, James
Batey, Joseph Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Richards, R.
Bennett, William (Battersea, South) Hoffman, p. C. Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)
Benson, G. Hollins, A. Riley, Ben (Dewsbury)
Bowen, J. W. Hopkin, Daniel Riley, F. F. (Stockton-on-Tees)
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Horrabin, J. F. Ritson, J.
Broad, Francis Alfred Jenkins, Sir William Romeril, H. G.
Brockway, A. Fenner John, William (Rhondda, West) Rowson, Guy
Bromfield, William Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) Salter, Dr. Alfred
Bromley, J. Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Samuel, H. Walter (Swansea, West)
Brooke, W. Jowett, Rt. Hon. F. W. Sawyer, G. F.
Brothers, M. Kelly, W. T. Scrymgeour, E.
Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (South Ayrshire) Kennedy, Rt. Hon. Thomas Sexton, Sir James
Brown, W. J. (Wolverhampton, West) Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M Shepherd, Arthur Lewis
Buchanan, G. Kirkwood, D. Shield, George William
Burgess, F. G. Lansbury, Rt. Hon, George Shiels, Dr. Drummond
Buxton, C. R. (Yorks. W. R. Elland) Lathan, G. (Sheffield, Park) Shillaker, J. F.
Cameron, A. G. Law, Albert (Bolton) Shinwell, E.
Cape, Thomas Law, A. (Rossendale) Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S.W.) Lawrence, Susan Simmons, C. J.
Chater, Daniel Lawrie, Hugh Hartley (Stalybridge) Sinkinson, George
Clarke, J. S. Lawson, John James Sitch, Charles H.
Cluse, W. S. Lawther, W. (Barnard Castle) Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe)
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Leach, W. Smith, Frank (Nuneaton)
Cocks, Frederick Seymour Lee, Frank (Derby, N.E.) Smith, Tom (Pontefract)
Compton, Joseph Leonard, W. Snowden, Thomas (Accrington)
Cove, William G. Lewis, T. (Southampton) Sorensen, R.
Cripps, Sir Stafford Logan, David Gilbert Stamford, Thomas W.
Daggar, George Longbottom, A. W. Stephen, Campbell
Dallas, George Longden, F. Strachey, E. J. St. Loe
Dalton, Hugh Lunn, William Strauss, G. R.
Davies, D. L. (Pontypridd) Macdonald, Gordon (Ince) Sullivan, J.
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) McElwee, A. Sutton, J. E
Day, Harry McKinlay, A. Taylor, R. A. (Lincoln)
Dukes, C. MacLaren, Andrew Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Duncan, Charles Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) Thurtle, Ernest
Ede, James Chuter MacNeill-Weir, L. Tillett, Ben
Edmunds, J. E. Mansfield, W. Tinker, John Joseph
Edwards, E. (Morpeth) March, S. Toole, Joseph
Egan, W. H. Marcus, M. Tout, W. J.
Freeman, Peter Marley, J. Townend, A. E
Gardner, B. W. (West Ham, Upton) Marshall, Fred Turner, Sir Ben
Gardner, J. P. (Hammersmith, N.) Mathers, George Vaughan, David
Gibbins, Joseph Maxton, James Viant, S. P.
Gill, T. H. Messer, Fred Walkden, A. G.
Gossling, A. G. Middleton, G. Walker, J.
Gould, F. Mills, J. E. Wallace, H. W.
Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Milner, Major J. Watkins, F. C.
Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) Montague, Frederick Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. (Colne) Morgan, Dr. H. B. Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Morley, Ralph Wellock, Wilfred
Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Mort, D. L. Welsh, James (Paisley)
Groves, Thomas E. Muggeridge, H. T. Welsh, James C. (Coatbridge)
Grundy, Thomas W. Murnin, Hugh West, F. R.
Hall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton) Naylor, T. E. Westwood, Joseph
Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Noel-Buxton, Baroness (Norfolk, N.) Whiteley, Wilfrid (Birm., Ladywood)
Hall, J. H. (Whitechapel) Oldfield, J. R. Whiteley, William (Blaydon)
Hall, Capt. W. G. (Portsmouth, C.) Oliver, George Harold (Ilkeston) Wilkinson, Ellen C.
Hamilton, Mary Agnes (Blackburn) Owen, H. F. (Hereford) Williams, David (Swansea, East)
Hardie, David (Rutherglen) Palln, John Henry. Williams, E. J. (Ogmore)
Hardie, G. D. (Springburn) Paling, Wilfrid Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
Hastings, Dr. Somerville Palmer, E. T. Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Hayes, John Henry Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) Wilson, J. (Oldham)
Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Burnley) Perry, S. F. Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Henderson, Arthur, Junr. (Cardiff, S.) Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. Young, R. S. (Islington, North)
Henderson, Joseph (Ardwick) Phillips, Dr. Marion Young, Sir R. (Lancaster, Newton)
Henderson, Thomas (Glasgow) Pole, Major D. G.
Henderson, W. W. (Middx., Enfield) Potts, John S. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Herriotts, J. Price, M. P. Mr. Charles Edwards and Mr.
Hicks, Ernest George Quibell, D. J. K. Charleton.
Hirst, G. H. (York, W. R., Wentworth) Raynes, W. R.
NOES.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Atholl, Duchess of Betterton, Sir Henry B.
Aitchison, Rt. Hon. Craigie M. Atkinson, C. Bevan, S. J. (Holborn)
Albery, Irving James Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley (Bewdley) Birchall, Major Sir John Dearman
Alexander, Sir Wm. (Glasgow, Cent'l) Balfour, George (Hampstead) Blindell, James
Allen, Sir J. Sandeman (Liverp'l., W.) Balfour, Captain H. H. (I. of Thanet) Boothby, R. J. G.
Allen, Lt.-Col. Sir William (Armagh) Balniel, Lord Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. Bowyer, Captain Sir George E. W.
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Beaumont, M. W. Boyce, Leslie
Aske, Sir Robert Bellairs, Commander Carlyon Bracken, B.
Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent, Dover) Bennett, Sir E. N. (Cardiff, Central) Briscoe, Richard George
Astor, Viscountess Berry, Sir George Broadbent, Colonel J.
Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd'., Hexham) Greaves-Lord, Sir Walter Perkins, W. R. D.
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John Peters, Dr. Sidney John
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Berks, Newb'y) Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro' W.) Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple)
Buchan, John Gritten, W. G. Howard Power, Sir John Cecil
Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. Gunston, Captain D. W. Pownall, Sir Assheton
Bullock, Captain Malcolm Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. Purbrick, R.
Burgin, Dr. E. L. Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Pybus, Percy John
Butler, R. A. Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford) Ramsay, T. B. Wilson
Butt, Sir Alfred Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Zetland) Ramsbotham, H.
Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Hammersley, S. S. Rathbone, Eleanor
Caine, Hall-, Derwent Hanbury, C. Rawson, Sir Cooper
Campbell, E. T. Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Reid, David D. (County Down)
Carver, Major W. H. Harbord, A. Remer, John R.
Castle Stewart, Earl of Harris, Percy A. Rentoul, Sir Gervais S.
Cautley, Sir Henry S. Hartington, Marquess of Rhys, Hon. C. A. U.
Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) Richardson, sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y)
Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt, R. (Prtsmth, S.) Haslam, Henry C. Roberts, Sir Samuel (Ecclesall)
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord H. (Ox. Univ.) Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley) Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs, Stretford)
Chadwick, Capt. Sir Robert Burton Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. Sir J. A. (Birm., W.) Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J. Rosbotham, D. S. T.
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston) Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller Rothschild, J. de
Chapman, Sir S. Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) Ruggles-Brise, Colonel E.
Christie, J. A. Horne, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert S. Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter
Church, Major A. G. Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Clydesdale, Marquess of Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) Russell, Richard John (Eddlsbury)
Cobb, Sir Cyril Hurd, Percy A. Salmon, Major I.
Cockerill, Brig.-General Sir George Hurst, Sir Gerald B. Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Cohen, Major J. Brunel Hutchison, Maj.-Gen. Sir R. Samuel, Samuel (W'dsworth, Putney)
Colfox, Major William Philip Inskip Sir Thomas Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart
Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) Iveagh, Countess of Sassoon, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip A. G. D.
Colman, N. C. D. Jones, Llewellyn-, F. Savery, S. S.
Colville, Major D. J. Jones, Sir G. W. H. (Stoke New'gton) Scott, James
Conway, Sir W. Martin Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Shakespeare, Geoffrey H.
Cooper, A. Duff Jones, Rt. Hon. Leif (Camborne) Shepperson, Sir Ernest Whittome
Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. Kedward, R. M. (Kent, Ashford) Simms, Major-General J.
Cranborne, Viscount Kindersley, Major G. M. Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John
Crichton-Stuart, Lord C. Knight, Holford Skelton, A. N.
Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. Knox, Sir Alfred Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam)
Crookshank, Capt. H. C. Lamb, Sir J. Q. Smith, R. W.(Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.)
Croom-Johnson, R. P. Lambert, Rt. Hon. George (S. Molton) Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R. Smithers, Waldron
Cunliffe-Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Latham, H. P. (Scarboro' & Whitby) Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip
Dalkeith, Earl of Law, Sir Alfred (Derby, High Peak) Somerset, Thomas
Dalrymple-White, Lt.-Col. Sir Godfrey Leighton, Major B. E. P. Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. (Hertford] Lewis, Oswald (Colchester) Southby, Commander A. R. J.
Davies, Dr. Vernon Llewellin, Major J. J. Spender-Clay, Colonel H.
Davies, E. C. (Montgomery) Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hon. Godfrey Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) Locker-Lampson, Com. O. (Handsw'th) Stanley, Hon. O. (Westmorland)
Davison, sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Long, Major Hon. Eric Steel-Maitland, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur
Dawson, Sir Philip Lovat-Fraser, J. A. Stewart, W. J. (Belfast South)
Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. Lymington, Viscount Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Dixey, A. C. McConnell, Sir Joseph Sueter, Rear-Admiral M. F.
Dixon, Captain Rt. Hon. Herbert MacDonald, Rt. Hon, J, R. (Seaham) Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Duckworth, G. A. V. MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) Thomas, Major L. B. (King's Norton)
Dugdale, Capt. T. L. Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Thompson, Luke
Dudgeon, Major C. R. Macquisten, F. A. Thomson, Sir F.
Eden, Captain Anthony Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) Thomson, Mitchell-, Rt. Hon. Sir W.
Edge, Sir William Makins, Brigadier-General E. Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Edmondson, Major A. J. Margesson, Captain H. D. Todd, Capt. A. J.
Elliot, Major Walter E. Marjoribanks, Edward Train, J.
England, Colonel A. Mason, Colonel Glyn K. Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s. M.) Merriman, Sir F. Boyd Turton, Robert Hugh
Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univer) Millar, J. D. Walters, Rt. Hon. Sir J. Tudor
Everard, W. Lindsay Milne, Wardlaw-, J. S. ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. Lambert
Falle, Sir Bertram G. Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Warrender, Sir Victor
Ferguson, Sir John Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B. Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Fielden, E. B. Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) Wayland, Sir William A.
Fison, F. G. Clavering Morris, Rhys Hopkins Wells, Sydney H.
Foot, Isaac Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) White, H. G.
Ford, Sir P. J. Morrison, W. S. (Glos., Cirencester) Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Forestier-Walker, Sir L. Muirhead, A. J. Wilson, G. H. A. (Cambridge U.)
Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. Nail-Cain, A. R. N. Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Galbraith, J. F. W. Nathan, Major H. L. Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Gault, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Withers, Sir John James
George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) Womersley, W. J.
George, Megan Lloyd (Anglesea) Nicholson, O. (Westminster) Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Gillett, George M. Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G. (Ptrst'ld) Wood, Major McKenzie (Banff)
Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John O'Connor, T. J. Wright, Brig.-Gen. W. D. (Tavist'k)
Glassey, A. E. Oliver, P. M. (Man., Blackley) Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton
Graham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.) Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William
Granville, E. Owen, Major G. (Carnarvon) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.
Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. Penny, Sir George Captain Wallace and Viscount
Gray, Milner Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) Elmley.

Question, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill," put, and agreed to.

The CHAIRMAN then proceeded successively to put forthwith the Question on an Amendment moved by the Government of which notice had been given, and the Questions necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at Six of the Clock at this day's Sitting.

Clause 4 (Prohibition on mixing of hydrocarbon oils on which rebate allowed, with light oils), ordered to stand part of the Bill.