HC Deb 24 June 1931 vol 254 cc428-9
28. Lieut.-Colonel ACLAND-TROYTE

asked the Minister of Transport why, although the council of an urban district with a population of under 20,000 has volunteered to make a contribution towards the cost of the improvement of a county road in its area, he has refused to make a grant in respect of this contribution; and whether he will reconsider his decision?

Mr. HERBERT MORRISON

My reason for declining to consider as grant-earning expenditure contributions from urban district councils of a population under 20,000 towards the cost of the improvement of county roads in their areas involves a long explanation which is fully set out in a letter which I caused to be addressed to the County Council's Association on the 11th of this month. I am sending a copy of this letter to the hon. and gallant Member.

Lieut.-Colonel ACLAND-TROYTE

I thank the right hon. Gentleman, but does he realise that in regard to a seaside town, where perhaps the census is taken in the winter, the population is very often below 20,000, whereas in the summer they have to cater for a much larger number? Will he take that fact into consideration?

Mr. MORRISON

That is so. I have to determine the provisions of the Local Government Act, 1929, which mentions the figure of 20,000 population arrived at, I believe, by the census.

Lieut.-Colonel ACLAND-TROYTE

is it not in order for these authorities to make grants to the County Council?

Mr. MORRISON

I am advised that it is not competent for me to accept the offer of the urban district council and to make a grant in that respect. The matter is one of some complication, and the hon. and gallant Gentleman will receive from me a copy of a three-page letter on the subject which sets out the pros and cons.

Mr. LOUIS SMITH

Is this the first evidence of the Department of the right hon. Gentleman that no further expenditure is to be incurred in this road development?

Mr. MORRISON

No, Sir, I do not think it relates to that. It relates to the provision of the Local Government Act, 1929.