HC Deb 15 June 1931 vol 253 cc1426-8
32. Mr. DENMAN

asked the Minister of Agriculture the estimated cost of the proposed Land Value Tax to be paid by the Commissioners of Crown Lands on their estates in London and elsewhere, respectively?

Dr. ADDISON

I would refer my hon. Friend to Clauses 19 and 20 of the Finance Bill. I do not see how any cost would be incurred by the Crown Lands Commissioners under the proposed taxation.

44. Mr. DENMAN

asked the First Commissioner of Works the estimated cost of the proposed Land Value Tax on properties in his control?

The FIRST COMMISSIONER of WORKS (Mr. Lansbury)

I would refer my hon. Friend to Clauses 19 and 20 of the Finance Bill, from which it would appear that the properties which are under my control are exempt from taxation.

64. Major the Marquess of TITCH-FIELD

asked the hon. Member for Central Leeds (Mr. Denman) as representing the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, if he can give an estimate of the amount of tax levied under the Finance Bill on land belonging to the churches?

Mr. DENMAN (Second Church Estates Commissioner)

It is estimated that about £72,000 per annum would be payable by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners in respect of their properties, the net revenues from which are applied to providing incomes for the clergy in the more necessitous parishes. The information is not available upon which an estimate could be given of the amount of the tax on glebe lands and other properties belonging to incumbents of benefices throughout the country.

Marquess of TITCHFIELD

Does the hon. Gentleman think it is a wise policy to deprive the Church of this large sum of money?

Mr. SPEAKER

That is entirely a matter of opinion.

Sir K. WOOD

Have the Ecclesiastical Commissioners made any representations to the Government?

Mr. DENMAN

The Ecclesiastical Commissioners have been in consultation with the authorities on the details of this Measure.

Marquess of TITCHFIELD

What effect will this have on the stipend of the clergy; will it mean a reduction of pay?

Mr. DENMAN

That is not the precise effect. The effect of the taxation will be to diminish the surplus available for distribution only in certain necessitous cases.

Marquess of TITCHFIELD

Surely that is the same thing.

Mr. DENMAN

The difference is the difference between taking off something from existing incomes and failing to add something.

Mr. O'CONNOR

Will the hon. Gentleman explain that subtle difference to the trade unions of the country?

Mr. DENMAN

We are very well aware of the distinction between the reduction and the maintenance of income.

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