HC Deb 30 July 1931 vol 255 c2465
82. Mr. HERRIOTTS

asked the Secretary for Mines if he has made further inquiries with regard to the withdrawal of the pumping machinery from the Chilton and Windlestone collieries; and, seeing that valuable seams of coal will be lost in those collieries and also in the Eldon collieries, if he will make an investigation in that area with a view to establishing central pumping machinery, and whether financial assistance will be granted for that purpose?

The SECRETARY for MINES (Mr. Shinwell)

I regret that I am not able to add anything to the answers given to my hon. Friend's previous questions on this subject. With regard to the general question of co-operative pumping, and my powers in that direction, I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave last Tuesday to the hon. Member for Leigh (Mr. Tinker).

Mr. HERRIOTTS

Are we to understand that the Secretary for Mines has no power whatever to order the installation of central pumping machinery? Must the initiative always come from the owners?

Mr. SHINWELL

I have power, but only when the owners in the area ask me to exercise it.

Mr. HERRIOTTS

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that, unless he makes some investigation and uses some influence in this matter, the whole of these valuable seams will be lost?

Mr. SHINWELL

I am well aware of the facts, and am concerned about them, but, until the owners take the initiative, I have no power under the Statute to take action.

Mr. R. RICHARDSON

Will the hon. Gentleman take this matter up with the royalty owners, who are losing acres of coal?

Mr. SHINWELL

I have taken it up with the coalowners, who are primarily concerned, and they are not prepared to take the initiative.

Mr. RICHARDSON

The royalty owners have an interest in it.