HC Deb 24 July 1931 vol 255 cc1899-903

Lords Amendment: Leave out the Clause.

Dr. ADDISON

I beg to move, "That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said Amendment".

Colonel LANE FOX

There are many counties which at the present moment are doing well and carrying out their duty in regard to the provisions of smallholdings, and I do not think it would be advisable to withhold from them the privileges that other counties have got. This Bill seems to be creating a new class of subsidised smallholders.

Dr. ADDISON

No, that is quite wrong. We are offering them the same terms, and we are simply carrying out the old arrangements.

Colonel LANE FOX

What I am afraid of is that under the terms of this Bill the conditions will be altered. I suggest that many county councils have carried out their duty, and have done their work very well in this respect.

Dr. ADDISON

I agree that some county councils have done excellently and all we want is to ensure that they will go on doing their duty in this respect.

Sir DOUGLAS NEWTON

We have been told that the county councils are not doing all that they ought to do in regard to the provision of smallholdings. Whatever view the Minister takes I respectfully suggest that by this Bill he is setting up a dual system of smallholdings management. Any loss incurred in regard to furnishing smallholdings will have to be borne by the taxpayer.

Question put, "That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said Amendment."

The House divided: Ayes, 198; Noes, 122.

Division No. 457.] AYES. [2.41 p.m.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (File, West) Aske, Sir Robert Broad, Francis Alfred
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Attlee, Clement Richard Brooke, W.
Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bilston) Brown, C. W. E. (Notts, Mansfield)
Aitchison, Rt. Hon. Craigie M. Barnes, Alfred John Brown, Ernest (Leith)
Alexander, Rt. Hon. A. V. (Hillsbro') Benn, Rt. Hon. Wedgwood Buchanan, G.
Alpass, J. H. Bennett, Sir E. N. (Cardiff, Central) Burgess, F. G.
Ammon, Charles George Bennett, William (Battersea, South) Burgin, Dr. E. L.
Angell, Sir Norman Benson, G. Buxton, C. R. (Yorks, W. R. Elland)
Arnott, John Bondfield, Rt. Hon. Margaret Caine, Hall-, Derwent
Cameron, A. G. Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Richards, R.
Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S. W.) Kelly, W. T. Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)
Chater, Daniel Kennedy, Rt. Hon. Thomas Riley, F. F. (Stockton-on-Tees)
Church, Major A. G. Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. Ritson, J.
Clarke, J. S. Knight, Holford Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Bromwich)
Cluse, W. S. Lang, Gordon Romeril, H. G.
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George Rosbotham, D. S. T.
Cocks, Frederick Seymour Law, Albert (Bolton) Rowson, Guy
Daggar, George Law, A. (Rossendale) Salter, Dr. Alfred
Dalton, Hugh Lawrence, Susan Samuel, H. Walter (Swansea, West)
Davies, D. L. (Pontypridd) Lawson, John James Sanders, W. S.
Denman, Hon. R. D. Lawther, W. (Barnard Castle) Sawyer, G. F.
Devlin, Joseph Leach, W. Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston)
Dudgeon, Major C. R. Lee, Frank (Darby, N. E.) Shepherd, Arthur Lewis
Duncan, Charles Lees, J. Sherwood, G. H.
Ede, James Chuter Leonard, W. Shield, George William
Edmunds, J. E. Lloyd, C. Ellis Shiels, Dr. Drummond
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) Longbottom, A. W. Shillakar, J. F.
Egan, W. H. Lovat-Fraser, J. A. Shinwell, E.
Evans, Major Herbert (Gateshead) Lunn, William Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Freeman, Peter Macdonald, Gordon (Ince) Simmons, C. J.
Gardner, B. W. (West Ha-n, Upton) MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) Sitch, Charles H.
Gardner, J. P. (Hammersmith, N.) McElwee, A. Smith, Frank (Nuneaton)
George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd (Car'vn) MacLaren, Andrew Smith, Tom (Pontefract)
George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) McShane, John James Smith, W. R. (Norwich)
Gibbins, Joseph Mansfield, W. Sorensen, R.
Gillett, George M. Marcus, M. Stamford, Thomas W.
Glassey, A. E. Marley, J. Strauss, G. R.
Gossling, A. G. Mathers, George Taylor, R. A. (Lincoln)
Gould, F. Matters, L. W. Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) Maxton, James Thurtle, Ernest
Granville, E. Messer, Fred Tillett, Ben
Gray, Milner Millar, J. D. Tinker, John Joseph
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Mills, J. E. Toole, Joseph
Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro' W.) Milner, Major J. Townend, A. E.
Graves, Thomas E. Montague, Frederick Vaughan, David
Grundy, Thomas W. Morley, Ralph Viant, S. P.
Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) Walker, J.
Hall, J. H. (Whitechapel) Morrison, Rt. Hon. H. (Hackney, S.) Wallace, H. W.
Hall, Capt. W. G. (Portsmouth, C.) Morrison, Robert C. (Tottenham, N.) Watkine, F. C.
Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Zetland) Mort, D. L. Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Hardie, David (Rutherglen) Muggeridge, H. T. Wellock, Wilfred
Hardie, G. D. (Springburn) Murnin, Hugh Welsh, James (Paisley)
Harris, Percy A. Naylor, T. E. West, F. R.
Hayday, Arthur Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Westwood, Joseph
Hayes, John Henry Noel-Buxton, Baroness (Norfolk, N.) Whiteley, Wilfrid (Birm., Ladywood)
Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Burnley) Oliver, George Harold (Ilkeston) Whiteley, William (Blaydon)
Henderson, Joseph (Ardwick) Owen, Major G. (Carnarvon) Wilkinson, Ellen C.
Henderson, W. W. (Middx., Enfield) Owen, H. F. (Hereford) Williams, E. J. (Ogmore)
Herriotts, J. Palin, John Henry Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Hicks, Ernest George Paling, Wilfrid Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Hoffman, P. C. Palmer, E. T. Wilson, J. (Oldham)
Hopkin, Daniel Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Horrabin, J. F. Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. Winterton, G. E. (Leicester, Loughb'gh)
Hudson, James H. (Huddersfield) Potts, John S. Wood, Major McKenzie (Banff)
Isaacs, George Quibell, D. J. K.
John, William (Rhondda, West) Ramsay, T. B. Wilson TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Jones, Rt. Hon. Leif (Camborne) Rathbone, Eleanor Mr. B. Smith and Mr. Charleton.
NOES.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Chadwick, Capt. Sir Robert Burton Galbraith, J. F. W.
Albery, Irving James Cobb, Sir Cyril Ganzoni, Sir John
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Cohen, Major J. Brunei Gault, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton
Atholl, Duchess of Colman, N. C. D. Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John
Balniel, Lord Cranborne, Viscount Gower, Sir Robert
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon Crichton-Stuart, Lord C. Graham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.)
Betterton, Sir Henry B. Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. Grattan-Doyle, Sir N.
Birchall, Major Sir John Dearman Crookshank, Capt. H. C. Greene, W. P. Crawford
Bird, Ernest Roy Cunliffe-Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft. Dalrymple-White, Lt.-Col. Sir Godfrey Gritten, W. G. Howard
Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. (Hertford) Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E.
Bowyer, Captain Sir George E. W. Davies, Dr. Vernon Gunston, Captain D. W.
Briscoe, Richard George Dawson, Sir Philip Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford)
Broadbent, Colonel J. Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry
Buchan, John Dugdale, Capt. T. L. Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley)
Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. Eden, Captain Anthony Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P.
Butler, R. A. Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.-M.) Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J.
Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Everard, W. Lindsay Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.)
Campbell, E. T. Ferguson, Sir John Hurd, Percy A.
Carver, Major W. H. Fielden, E. B. Jones, Sir G. W. H. (Stoke New'gton)
Castle Stewart, Earl of Ford, Sir P. J. Knox, Sir Alfred
Cayzer, Sir C (Chester, City) Forestier-Walker, Sir L. Lamb, Sir J. Q.
Cazaiet, Captain Victor A. Fremantie, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. Lambert, Rt. Hon. George (S. Moltan)
Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R. Pownall, Sir Assheton Taylor, Vice-Admiral E. A.
Leighton, Major B. E. P. Ramsbotham, H. Thomas, Major L. B. (King's Norton)
Lewis, Oswald (Colchester) Reid, David D. (County Down) Thomson, Mitchell-, Rt. Hon. Sir W.
Llewellin, Major J. J. Remer, John R. Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Long, Major Hon. Eric Rentoul, Sir Gervais S. Wallace, Capt. D. E. (Hornsey)
Macquisten, F. A. Reynolds, Col. Sir James Ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. Lambert
Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y) Warrender, Sir Victor
Makins, Brigadier-General E. Roberts, Sir Samuel (Ecclesall) Wells, Sydney R.
Marjoribanks, Edward Ruggles-Brise, Colonel E. Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Milne, Wardlaw-, J. S. Russell, Alexander West (Tynsmouth) Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B. Salmon, Major I. Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Morrison, W. S. (Glos., Cirencester) Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) Wolmer, Rt. Hon. Viscount
Nall-Cain, A. R. N. Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart Womersley, W. J.
Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) Shepperson, Sir Ernest Whittome Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Peake, Capt. Osbert Smith-Carington, Neville W. Wright, Brig.-Gen. W. O. (Tavist'k)
Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) Smithers, Waldron
Perkins, W. R. D. Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.
Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) Steel-Maitland, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur Sir Frederick Thomson and Sir George Penny.
Power, Sir John Cecil Stewart, W. J. (Belfast South)

Bill read the Third time, and passed, without Amendment.