§ Mr. STANLEY BALDWINMay I ask the Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs what the business will be on Friday, and for what purpose it is intended to move the suspension of the Eleven o'clock Rule to-night?
Mr. THOMASIt is proposed to dispose of the first four Orders on the Order Paper down to and including the Army and Air Expenditure, 1929, Committee. The business for Friday will be considera- 1244 tion of Lords Amendments to the Agricultural Land (Utilisation) Bill, and, if time permits, other Orders. With regard to to-morrow's business, representations have been received and it is proposed to take the Public Works Loans Bill immediately after the conclusion of Supply and before the Report stage of the Consumers' Council Money Resolution.
§ Mr. A. M. SAMUELIs the right hot,. Gentleman aware that an undertaking was given that the Public Works Loan Bill, which involves £30,000,000, will be taken at such an hour as to give time for proper consideration?
Mr. THOMASI am told that no undertaking was given. I understand that my hon. Friend said that he hoped it would be possible to do that, but circumstances have not enabled us to do it.
§ Mr. SAMUELIn view of the fact that we allowed one stage of this Bill to go through on the understanding that we should get proper time to discuss it, could not the right hon. Gentleman have the Bill put down as the first Order on Friday?
Mr. THOMASI understand that it was put down for last Friday, but at the wish of the Opposition it was not taken.
§ Sir WILLIAM MITCHELL-THOMSONThat is not so.
§ Mr. MACPHERSONIs the right hon. Gentleman aware that the second Order which he proposes to take after Eleven o'clock, the Small Landholders and Agricultural Holdings (Scotland) Bill, Lords' Amendments, involves many points of principle, and can he give an undertaking that it shall not be taken at too late an hour?
Mr. THOMASI hope the House generally will realise that we are trying to work to a programme, in accordance with the promise made that we shall rise next week. I hope that the First Order today will not take the time that is generally anticipated.
§ Mr. O. LEWISIn the event of the Debate on the Unemployment Insurance Bill being prolonged into the small hours of the morning, does the right hon. Gentleman still propose to take the Financial Resolution of the Consumers' Council Bill, no matter what hour it may be?
Mr. THOMASI cannot conceive the first contingency, but, even if that were so, I understand that this business is absolutely essential if the House is to rise next week.
§ Mr. SAMUELIn regard to the Public Works Loan Bill, we do not intend to be hostile, but it is a matter which involves £30,000,000, and there is no real hurry for the Bill. It can well stand over until we come back again. Some £15,000,000 is still unexpended. Why force it through the House at midnight?
Mr. THOMASThere is no attempt to force anything on the House. It may equally be said that a number of other matters which are equally urgent and important will have to be discussed when we come back.
§ Mr. SMITHERSIn regard to the Public Works Loans Bill, may I ask if the right hon. Gentleman is aware that the report of the Commissioners for this year is not yet published, and that it
§ would be much better to put off the discussion on the Bill until the report is available? I have tried to get a copy of the report, but it is not available. Is it fair to bring a Bill of this kind before the House when the report of the Commissioners is not in the hands of hon. Members?
Mr. THOMASI do not know anything of the details, but I cannot conceive of anything done by this side of the House which will be construed as unfair.
§ Mr. SMITHERSWill the right hon. Gentleman arrange for the Financial Secretary to the Treasury and the Lord Advocate to go away for their holidays?
§
Motion made, and Question put,
That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[Mr. J. H. Thomas.]
§ The House divided: Ayes, 248; Noes, 139.
1249| Division No. 442.] | AYES. | [3.38 p.m. |
| Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) | Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) | Hudson, James H. (Huddersfield) |
| Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) | Egan, W. H. | Isaacs, George |
| Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher | Elmley, Viscount | John, William (Rhondda, West) |
| Alexander, Rt. Hon. A. V. (Hillsbro') | England, Colonel A. | Johnston, Rt. Hon. Thomas |
| Alpass, J. H. | Evans, Major Herbert (Gateshead) | Jones, Llewellyn-, F. |
| Ammon, Charles George | Foot, Isaac | Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) |
| Arnott, John | Freeman, Peter | Jones, Rt. Hon. Lelf (Camborne) |
| Attlee, Clement Richard | Gardner, B. W. (West Ham, Upton) | Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) |
| Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bilston) | Gardner, J. P. (Hammersmith, N.) | Kedward, R. M. (Kent, Ashford) |
| Barnes, Alfred John | George, Megan Lloyd (Anglesea) | Kelly, W. T. |
| Barr, James | Gibbins, Joseph | Kennedy, Rt. Hon. Thomas |
| Batey, Joseph | Gibson, H. M. (Lancs, Mossley) | Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. |
| Benn, Rt. Hon. Wedgwood | Gillett, George M. | Knight, Holford |
| Bennett, William (Battersea, South) | Glassey, A. E. | Lambert, Rt. Hon. George (S. Molton) |
| Benson, G. | Gossling, A. G. | Lang, Gordon |
| Bondfield, Rt. Hon. Margaret | Gould, F. | Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George |
| Bowen, J. W. | Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) | Lathan, G. (Sheffield, Park) |
| Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. | Gray, Milner | Law, Albert (Bolton) |
| Bromfield, William | Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. (Colne) | Law, A. (Rossendale) |
| Brothers, M. | Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Lawrence, Susan |
| Brown, Rt. Hon. J. (South Ayrshire) | Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro' W.) | Lawrie, Hugh Hartley (Stalybridge) |
| Burgess, F. G. | Groves, Thomas E. | Lawson, John James |
| Buxton, C. R. (Yorks. W. R. Elland) | Grundy, Thomas W. | Lawther, W. (Barnard Castle) |
| Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S.W.) | Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) | Leach, W. |
| Charleton, H. C. | Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) | Lee, Frank (Derby, N.E.) |
| Chater, Daniel | Hall, J. H. (Whitechapel) | Lees, J. |
| Church, Major A. G. | Hall, Capt. W. G. (Portsmouth, C.) | Leonard, W. |
| Cluse, W. S. | Hamilton, Mary Agnes (Blackburn) | Lloyd, C. Ellis |
| Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. | Hardie, David (Rutherglen) | Logan, David Gilbert |
| Cocks, Frederick Seymour | Hardie, G. D. (Springburn) | Longbottom, A. W. |
| Compton, Joseph | Hastings, Dr. Somerville | Longden, F. |
| Cowan, D. M. | Haycock, A. W. | Lovat-Fraser, J. A. |
| Cripps, Sir Stafford | Hayday, Arthur | Lunn, William |
| Daggar, George | Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Burnley) | Macdonald, Gordon (Ince) |
| Dallas, George | Henderson, Joseph (Ardwick) | MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) |
| Dalton, Hugh | Henderson, W. W. (Middx., Enfield) | MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) |
| Davies, D. L. (Pontypridd) | Herriotts, J. | McElwee, A. |
| Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Hicks, Ernest George | McEntee, V. L. |
| Day, Harry | Hirst, G. H. (York W. R. Wentworth) | McKinlay, A. |
| Denman, Hon. R. D. | Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) | Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Gevan) |
| Dukes, C. | Hoffman, P. C. | MacNeill-Weir, L. |
| Duncan, Charles | Hollins, A. | Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. |
| Ede, James Chuter | Hopkin, Daniel | McShane, John James |
| Edmunds, J. E. | Horrabin, J. F. | Malone, C. L'Estrange (N'thampton) |
| Mander, Geoffrey le M. | Ramsay, T. B. Wilson | Stamford, Thomas W. |
| Manning, E. L. | Rathbone, Eleanor | Strauss, G. R. |
| Mansfield, W. | Raynes, W. R. | Sullivan, J. |
| March, S. | Richards, R. | Sutton, J. E. |
| Marcus, M. | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | Taylor, R. A. (Lincoln) |
| Marley, J. | Riley, Ben (Dewsbury) | Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby) |
| Marshall, Fred | Riley, F. F. (Stockton-on-Tees) | Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow) |
| Mathers, George | Ritson, J. | Thurtle, Ernest |
| Matters, L. W. | Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Bromwich) | Tillett, Ben |
| Messer, Fred | Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs, Stretford) | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Middleton, G. | Romeril, H. G. | Toole, Joseph |
| Mills, J. E. | Rosbotham, D. S. T. | Tout, W. J. |
| Montague, Frederick | Rowson, Guy | Townend, A. E. |
| Morgan, Dr. H. B. | Russell, Richard John (Eddisbury) | Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles |
| Morley, Ralph | Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen) | Vaughan, David |
| Morris, Rhys Hopkins | Samuel, H. Walter (Swansea, West) | Viant, S. P. |
| Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) | Sanders, W. S. | Walker, J. |
| Morrison, Rt. Hon. H. (Hackney, S.) | Sawyer, G. F. | Wallace, H. W. |
| Morrison, Robert C. (Tottenham, N.) | Scott, James | Walters, Rt. Hon. Sir J. Tudor |
| Muff, G. | Scrymgeour, E. | Watkins, F. C. |
| Muggeridge, H. T. | Scurr, John | Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda) |
| Murnin, Hugh | Sexton, Sir James | Wellock, Wilfred |
| Nathan, Major H. L. | Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) | Welsh, James (Paisley) |
| Naylor, T. E. | Shepherd, Arthur Lewis | Welsh, James C. (Coatbridge) |
| Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) | Sherwood, G. H. | West, F. R. |
| Noel-Buxton, Baroness (Norfolk, N.) | Shield, George William | Westwood, Joseph |
| Oliver, P. M. (Man., Blackley) | Shiels, Dr. Drummond | Whiteley, Wilfrid (Birm., Ladywood) |
| Owen, Major G. (Carnarvon) | Shillaker, J. F. | Wilkinson, Ellen C. |
| Paling, Wilfrid | Shinwell, E. | Williams, David (Swansea, East) |
| Palmer, E. T. | Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) | Williams, E. J. (Ogmore) |
| Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) | Simmons, C. J. | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Perry, S. F. | Sinclair, Sir A. (Caithness) | Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe) |
| Peters, Dr. Sidney John | Sitch, Charles H. | Wilson, J. (Oldham) |
| Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. | Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe) | Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| Picton-Turbervill, Edith | Smith, Frank (Nuneaton) | Wood, Major McKenzie (Banff) |
| Pole, Major D. G. | Smith, Rennie (Penistone) | Young, R. S. (Islington, North) |
| Potts, John S. | Smith, Tom (Pontefract) | |
| Price, M. P. | Smith, W. R. (Norwich) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Pybus, Percy John | Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip | Mr. T. Henderson and Mr. William |
| Quibell, D. J. K. | Sorensen, R. | Whiteley. |
| NOES. | ||
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) | Locker-Lampson, Com. O.(Handsw'th) |
| Albery, Irving James | Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F. | Long, Major Hon. Eric |
| Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. | Dugdale, Capt. T. L. | Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) |
| Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent, Dover) | Eden, Captain Anthony | Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) |
| Atholl, Duchess of | Edmondson, Major A. J. | Makins, Brigadier-General E. |
| Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley (Bewdley) | Elliot, Major Walter E. | Margesson, Captain H. D. |
| Balniel, Lord | Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s. M.) | Meller, R. J. |
| Bellairs, Commander Carlyon | Everard, W. Lindsay | Millar, J. D. |
| Betterton, Sir Henry B. | Ferguson, Sir John | Milne, Wardlaw-, J. S. |
| Bourne, Captain Robert Croft | Ford, Sir P. J. | Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) |
| Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart | Frece, Sir Walter de | Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B. |
| Bowyer, Captain Sir George E. W. | Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. | Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) |
| Braithwaite, Major A. N. | Ganzoni, Sir John | Morrison, W. S. (Glos., Cirencester) |
| Briscoe, Richard George | Gault, Lieut.-Col. A. Hamilton | Nall-Cain, A. R. N. |
| Broadbent, Colonel J. | Gibson, C. G. (Pudsey & Otley) | Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G. (Ptrsf'ld) |
| Brown Ernest (Leith) | Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | Peake, Captain Osbert |
| Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C.(Berks, Newb'y) | Glyn, Major R. G. C. | Penny, Sir George |
| Buchan, John | Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. | Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) |
| Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T. | Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John | Power, Sir John Cecil |
| Bullock, Captain Malcolm | Gunston, Captain D. W. | Pownall, Sir Assheton |
| Butler, R. A. | Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. | Reid, David D. (County Down) |
| Campbell, E. T. | Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford) | Remer, John R. |
| Castle Stewart, Earl of | Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch't'sy) |
| Cautley, Sir Henry S. | Hartington, Marquess of | Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell |
| Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth. S.) | Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) |
| Cazalet, Captain Victor A. | Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley) | Salmon, Major I. |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston) | Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) |
| Chapman, Sir S. | Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J. | Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart |
| Christle, J. A. | Herbert, Sir Dennis (Hertford) | Savery, S. S. |
| Cobb, Sir Cyril | Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller | Shepperson, Sir Ernest Whittome |
| Cohen, Major J. Brunel | Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. | Sinclair, Col. T. (Queen's U., Belfast) |
| Colfox, Major William Philip | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) | Skelton, A. N. |
| Cooper, A. Duff | Hurd, Percy A. | Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam) |
| Courtauld, Major J. S. | Hutchison, Maj.-Gen. Sir R. | Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) |
| Cranborne, Viscount | Iveagh, Countess of | Smith-Carington, Neville W. |
| Crichton-Stuart, Lord C. | Lamb, Sir J. Q. | Smithers, Waldron |
| Crookshank, Capt. H. C. | Latham, H. P. (Scarboro' & Whitby) | Stanley, Lord (Fylde) |
| Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) | Law, Sir Alfred (Derby, High Peak) | Steel-Maitland, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur |
| Dalkeith, Earl of | Leighton, Major B. E. P. | Stewart, W. J. (Belfast South) |
| Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. (Hertford) | Lewis, Oswald (Colchester) | Taylor, Vice-Admiral E. A. |
| Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) | Llewellin, Major J. J. | Thomas, Major L. B. (King's Norton) |
| Thompson, Luke | Ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. Lambert | Womersley, W. J. |
| Thomson, Mitchell-, Rt. Hon. Sir W. | Waterhouse, Captain Charles | Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley |
| Titchfield, Major the Marquess of | Wayland, Sir William A. | |
| Todd, Capt. A. J. | White, H. G. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Turton, Robert Hugh | Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay) | Sir Frederick Thomson and Sir |
| Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyan | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George | Victor Warrender. |
| Wallace, Capt. D. E. (Hornsey) | Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl |