HC Deb 31 March 1930 vol 237 cc900-3

May I ask the Prime Minister how far he proposes going to-night in the event of his Motion being carried?


The object of the Motion is to ensure that the Speaker is moved out of the Chair, and the four Buildings Estimates on the Paper disposed of in Committee of Supply at this day's sitting. In addition, we want the Second Reading of the Army and Air Force (Annual) Bill and the Report stage of the Unemployment Insurance Bill Money Resolution which are excepted business, and which, it is hoped, will not occupy more than a, few minutes.


I have one further question. The right hon. Gentleman was not able to be in his place on Thursday when I asked a question about the Easter holidays. I do not know whether he is in a, position yet to say anything about that. Perhaps if he is not, he will be good enough to let me know when he would like a question on that subject?


I think that I could answer, but I should be a little more certain if the right hon. Gentleman was good enough to put the question to me to-morrow. I would like to have a few more minutes' consideration.

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided, Ayes, 179; Noes, 183.

Division No. 237.] AYES. [3.49 p.m.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Attlee, Clement Richard Bennett, William (Battersea. South)
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bilston) Benson. G.
Aitchison, Rt. Hon. Cralgie M. Barr, James Bowen, J. W.
Alpass, J. H. Batey, Joseph Bowerman, Rt. Nan. Charles W.
Ammon, Charles George Bellamy, Albert Brockway, A. Fenner
Arnott, John Benn, Rt. Hon. Wedgwood Brown, W. J. (Wolverhampton, West)
Buxton, C. R. (Yorks. W. R. Elland) Kennedy, Thomas Richards, R.
Buxton, Rt. Hon. Noel (Norfolk, N.) Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. Roberts, Rt.Hon. F. O. (W. Bromwich)
Caine, Derwent Hail. Knight, Holford Romerll, H. G.
Cameron, A. G. Lang, Gordon Rosbotham, D. S. T.
Cape, Thomas Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George Rowson, Guy
Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S.W.) Lawrence, Susan Runciman, Rt. Hon. Walter
Charleton, H. C. Lawson, John James Salter, Dr. Alfred
Chater, Daniel Leach, W. Sanders, W. S.
Church, Major A. G. Lee, Frank (Derby, N.E.) Sandham, E.
Cluse, W. S. Lee, Jennie (Lanark, Northern) Scurr, John
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Lees, J. Shakespeare, Geoffrey H.
Cocks, Frederick Seymour Lloyd, C. Ellis Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston)
Cove, William G. Logan, David Gilbert Shepherd, Arthur Lewis
Daggar, George Longbottom, A. W. Sherwood, G. H.
Dallas, George Longden, F. Shleis, Dr. Drummond
Dalton, Hugh Lovat-Fraser, J. A. Shillaker, J. F.
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Lowth, Thomas Shinwell, E.
Day, Harry Lunn, William Simmons, C. J.
Denman, Hon. R. D. Macdonald, Gordon (Ince) Simon, E. D. (Manch'ter, Withington)
Dickson, T. MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) Smith, Alfred (Sunderland)
Duncan, Charles MacDonald, Malcolm (Bassetlaw) smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe)
Ede, James Chuter McElwee, A. Smith, Frank (Nuneaton)
Edmunds, J. E. McEntee, V. L. Smith, H. B. Lees- (Keighley)
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) MacLaren, Andrew Smith, Tom (Pontefract)
Edwards, E. (Morpeth) Maclean, Sir Donald (Cornwall, N.) Smith, W. R. (Norwich)
Elmley, Viscount MacNeill-Weir, L. Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip
Gardner, B. W. (West Ham, Upton) March, S. Sorensen, R.
George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) Markham, S. F. Strachey, E. J. St. Loe
Gillett, George M. Marley, J. Taylor, R. A. (Lincoln)
Glassey, A. E. Marshall, Fred Taylor, W. B. (Norfolk, S.W.)
Gossling, A. G. Mathers, George Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Gould, F. Matters, L. W. Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) Maxton, James Thurtie, Ernest
Groves, Thomas E. Messer, Fred Tinker, John Joseph
Grundy, Thomas W. Mills, J. E. Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles
Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) Montague, Frederick Vlant, S. P.
Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Morgan, Dr. H. B. Walker, J.
Hall, Capt. W. P. (Portsmouth, C.) Morley, Ralph Wallace, H. W.
Hamilton, Mary Agnes (Blackburn) Morris, Rhys Hopkins Walters, Rt. Hon. Sir J. Tudor
Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Zetland) Morrison, Herbert (Hackney, South) Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah
Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon Morrison, Robert C. (Tottenham, N.) Wellock, Wilfred
Hastings, Dr. Somerville Mosley, Sir Oswald (Smethwick) West, F. R.
Henderson, Right Hon. A. (Burnley) Muggerldge, H. T. Whiteley, Wilfrld (Birm., Ladywood)
Henderson, Thomas (Glasgow) Oldfield, J. R. Whiteley, William (Blaydon)
Henderson, W. W. (Middx., Enfield) Oliver, P. M. (Man., Blackley) Wilkinson, Ellen C.
Herrlotts, J. Owen, H. F. (Hereford) Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Hirst, G. H. (York W. R. Wentworth) Paling, Wilfrid Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Hoffman, P. C. Palmer, E. T. Wilson, J. (Oldham)
Hopkin, Daniel Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. winterton, G. E.(Leicester, Loughb'gh)
Horrabin, J. F. Picton-Turbervill, Edith Wood, Major McKenzie (Banff)
Isaacs, George Pole, Major D. G. Wright, W. (Ruthergien)
Johnston, Thomas Potts, John S. Young, R. S. (Islington, North)
Jones, Rt. Hon. Leif (Camborne) Pybus, Percy John
Jowett, Rt. Hon. F. W. Ramsay, T. B. Wilson TELLERS FOR THE AYES—
Kelly, W. T. Rathbone, Eleanor Mr. Allen Parkinson and Mr. Hayes
Albery, Irving James Bullock, Captain Malcolm Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil)
Allen, Sir J. Sandeman (Liverp'l., W.) Burton, Colonel H. W. Davison, Sir W. H.(Kensington, S.)
Allen, Lt.-Col. Sir William (Armagh) Butler, R. A. Dugdale, Capt. T. L.
Allen, W. E. D. (Belfast, W.) Butt, Sir Alfred Eden, Captain Anthony
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Edmondson, Major A. J.
Astor, Maj. Hon. John J.(Kent, Dover) Castle Stewart, Earl of Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.M.)
Atkinson, C. Cautley, Sir Henry S. Everard, W. Lindsay
Baille-Hamilton, Hon. Charles W. Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) Fails, Sir Bertram G.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley (Bowdley) Cazalet, Captain Victor A. Ferguson, Sir John
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. Sir J.A.(Birm., W.) Fielden, E. B.
Bainlel, Lord Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston) Forestier Walker, Sir L.
Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. Christie, J. A. Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E.
Beaumont, M. W. Cohen, Major J. Brunel Galbraith, J. F. W.
Bellaire, Commander Carlyon Colfox, Major William Philip Ganzoni, Sir John
Berry, Sir George Colman, N. C. D. Glyn, Major R. G. C.
Betterton, Sir Henry B. Colville, Major D. J. Gower, Sir Robert
Bevan, S. J. (Holborn) Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. Grace, John
Birchall, Major Sir John Dearman Crichton-Stuart, Lord C. Grattan-Doyle, Sir N.
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. Greaves-Lord, Sir Walter
Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart Croom-Johnson, R. P. Greene, W. P. Crawford
Boyce, H. L. Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London)
Bracken, B. Cunliffe-Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E.
Brass, Captain Sir William Dalkeith, Earl of Gunston, Captain D. W.
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C.(Berks, Newb'y) Dalrymple-White, Lt.-Col. Sir Godfrey Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H.
Buchan, John Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. (Hertford) Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich)
Buckingham, Sir H. Davies, Dr. Vernon Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford)
Hammersley, S. S. Morrison, W. S. (Glos., Cirencester) Smithers, Waldron
Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Hartington, Marquess of Muirhead, A. J. Southby, Commander A. R. J.
Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley) Nicholson, O. (Westminster) Spender-Clay, Colonel H.
Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G. (Ptrsf'ld) Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Herbert, Sir Dennis (Hertford) Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert Stanley, Maj. Hon. O. (W'morland)
Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller O'Neill, Sir H. Steel-Maitland, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur
Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William Stewart, W. J. (Belfast South)
Horne, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert S. Peaks, Capt. Osbert Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. Penny, Sir George Sueter, Rear-Admiral M. F.
Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) Thomas, Major L. B. (King's Norton)
Hurd, Percy A. Pilditch, Sir Philip Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Hurst, Sir Gerald B. Power, Sir John Cecil Todd, Capt. A. J.
Iveagh, Countess of Pownall, Sir Assheton Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert Preston, Sir Walter Rueben Turton, Robert Hugh
Jones, Sir G. W. H. (Stoke New'gton) Ramsbotham, H. Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon
Kindersley, Major G. M. Rawson, Sir Cooper Wallace, Capt. D. E. (Hornsey)
Knox, Sir Alfred Reid, David D. (County Down) Ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. Lambert
Lamb, Sir J. Q. Remer, John R. Wardlaw-Milne, J. S.
Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R. Rentoul, Sir Gervais S. Warrender, Sir Victor
Leigh, Sir John (Clapham) Reynolds, Col. Sir James Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Leighton, Major B. E. P. Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'[...]) Wayland, Sir William A.
Lewis, Oswald (Colchester) Roberts, Sir Samuel (Ecclesall) Wells, Sydney R.
Llewellin, Major J. J. Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hon. Godfrey Ross, Major Ronald D. Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Long, Major Eric Ruggies-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A. Winterton. Rt. Hon. Earl
Lymington, Viscount Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Withers, Sir John James
Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) Salmon, Major I. Wolmer, Rt. Hon. Viscount
Macquisten, F. A. Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) Womersley, W. J.
Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Margesson, Captain H. D. Sassoon, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip A. G. D. Worthington-Evans. Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Meller, R. J. Savery, S. S. Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton
Merriman, Sir F. Boyd Shepperson, Sir Ernest Whittome
Mond, Hon. Henry Simms, Major-General J. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Monsell, Eyres. Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B. Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dlne, C.) Major Sir George Hennessy and Sir
Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) Smith-Carington, Neville W. Frederick Thomson.
Morden, Col. W. Grant

I beg to move, "That this House do now adjourn."

After the decision to which the House has just come we should only be following precedent if the House were to adjourn, in order to give the Prime Minister an opportunity of considering his position.


The hon. Member cannot move the Adjournment of the House.


On a point of Order. When a Motion moved by the Prime Minister is defeated in the House of Commons, is it not right or in order for the Opposition to discuss the question on a Motion for the Adjournment?


I do not know that the fact of the Government being defeated on this Motion makes any difference to the Rules of the House.