HC Deb 29 January 1930 vol 234 cc970-1
12. Mr. ALBERY

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty which were the principal naval establishments on the Mediterranean station recently inspected by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty; and what was the principal object of this inspection?

The FIRST LORD of the ADMIRALTY (Mr. A. V. Alexander)

My hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary visited the naval establishments at Malta and Gibraltar in order to acquaint himself personally with the local conditions obtaining there.

Mr. ALBERY

May I ask whether this visit was made in company with the Secretary of State for War, and whether it had any reference to the proposals to base the Mediterranean Fleet on home ports?

Mr. ALEXANDER

No, Sir.

Mr. HORE-BELISHA

Is it intended to cut down the dockyards at Malta and Gibraltar?

Mr. ALEXANDER

I have nothing to add to what I have said. The Parliamentary Secretary visited these naval establishments in order to acquaint himself with the local conditions.

Mr. ALBERY

Will the right hon. Gentleman answer the first part of my question, as to whether the Parliamentary Secretary was accompanied by the War Office representative?

Mr. ALEXANDER

Yes.

Captain CROOKSHANK

What did the trip cost?

Mr. KIRKWOOD

Does that mean, supposing that there is no work to do in the dockyards, that the men will not be discharged into poverty but into comfort? Are the Government going to see to that?

Mr. ALEXANDER

I do not think that arises out of the question or the reply.

Mr. KIRKWOOD

That is for Mr. Speaker to decide.

Mr. SPEAKER

That is a point for me, and the right hon. Gentleman took the words out of my mouth.

Mr. KIRKWOOD

But, arising out of the reply: Are these men going to be discharged and no provision made for them to live? Are they simply going to be thrown on the scrap heap in the same way as 600 men have been thrown out at Beardmore's at Parkhead just lately by a Labour Government? [Interruption.] Yes, but we are up against hard facts, and I am not going to sit here—[Interruption.]

Mr. SPEAKER

The hon. Member knows quite well that that is not the way to behave in the House.

Mr. KIRKWOOD

On a point of Order. [Interruption.]

Mr. SPEAKER

The hon. Member's question does not arise out of the question on the Order Paper.

Mr. KIRKWOOD

That is for you to say, but I have a right, when I put a question, to get an answer, and it is your duty, Sir, to see that I get an answer. [Interruption.]

Mr. SPEAKER

I am not going to have any controversy with the hon. Member. He really must obey the Rules of the House.

Mr. KIRKWOOD

I am supposed to have some judgment as well as you.

HON. MEMBERS

Order!

Mr. SPEAKER

The hon. Member's supplementary question did not arise out of either the original question or the reply.