Mr. CHAMBERLAINMay I ask the Prime Minister how far it is proposed to go to-night in the discussions on the Contributory Pensions Bill?
§ The PRIME MINISTERI rather regret that a Motion to suspend the Eleven o'clock Rule has had to be put on the Order Paper to-day. I have no desire to keep the House sitting late, but the business has to be got through with reasonable expedition. I am there fore much less interested in how far we will get to-day if the House would suit the convenience of both sides. What I should like to do is to get the Committee stage of the Bill by the end of the Thursday Sitting of this week. That is necessary in order that the Bill may, on account of its benefits coming into operation get to another place at the latest by Monday night—the end of the Monday sitting. If the Committee will get to the end of Clause 15 to-night, it would enable that to be done. If hon. Members will look closely at the Order Paper, they will see that that is not impossible, although looking merely at the Paper and its area it seems rather a big piece of work. It is not big in substance. I am only too glad to accommodate both sides of the House if an accommodation is possible.
§ The PRIME MINISTERA good deal depends on the hon. Member himself.
§ Motion made, and Question put,
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That the Proceedings on the Widows', Orphans', and Old Age Contributory Pensions Bill be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]
§ The House divided: Ayes, 300; Noes, 164.
1733| Division No. 15.] | AYES. | [4.7 p.m. |
| Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) | Gardner, B. W. (West Ham, Upton) | Lee, Jennie (Lanark, Northern) |
| Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) | Gardner, J. P. (Hammersmith, N.) | Lees, J. |
| Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher | George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd (Car'vn) | Lewis, T. (Southampton) |
| Alexander, Rt. Hon. A. V. (Hillsbro') | George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke) | Lindley, Fred W. |
| Alpass, J. H. | Gibbins, Joseph | Lloyd, C. Ellis |
| Ammon, Charles George | Gill, T. H. | Longbottom, A. W. |
| Angell, Norman | Gillett, George M. | Longden, F. |
| Arnott, John | Glassey, A. E. | Lowth, Thomas |
| Aske, Sir Robert | Gosling, Harry | Lunn, William |
| Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bilston) | Gossling, A. G. | Macdonald, Gordon (Ince) |
| Baldwin, Oliver (Dudley) | Gould, F. | MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) |
| Barnes, Alfred John | Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) | McElwee, A. |
| Barr, James | Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. (Colne). | McEntee, V. L. |
| Batey, Joseph | Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Mackinder, W. |
| Beckett, John (Camberwell, Peckham) | Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro' W.) | McKinlay, A. |
| Bellamy, Albert | Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | MacLaren, Andrew |
| Benn, Rt. Hon. Wedgwood | Groves, Thomas E. | Maclean, Sir Donald (Cornwall, N.) |
| Bennett, Captain E. N. (Cardiff, Central) | Grundy, Thomas W. | Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) |
| Bennett, William (Battersea, South) | Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) | MacNeill-Weir, L. |
| Benson, G. | Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) | Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. |
| Bentham, Dr. Ethel | Hall, Capt. W. P. (Portsmouth, C.) | McShane, John James |
| Bevan, Aneurin (Ebbw Vale) | Hamilton, Mary Agnes (Blackburn) | Malone, C. L'Estrange (N'thampton) |
| Blinded, James | Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Zetland) | Mander, Geoffrey le M. |
| Bondfield, Rt. Hon. Margaret | Hardie, George D. | Mansfield, W. |
| Bowen, J. W. | Hastings, Dr. Somerville | March, S. |
| Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. | Haycock, A. W. | Markham, S. F. |
| Broad, Francis Alfred | Hayday, Arthur | Marley, J. |
| Brockway, A. Fenner | Hayes, John Henry | Mathers, George |
| Bromley, J. | Henderson, Right Hon. A. (Burnley) | Matters, L. W. |
| Brothers, M. | Henderson, Arthur, junr. (Cardiff, S.) | Maxton, James |
| Brown, C. W. E. (Notts. Mansfield) | Henderson, Thomas (Glasgow) | Melville, J. B. |
| Brown, Ernest (Leith) | Henderson, W. W. (Middx., Enfield) | Messer, Fred |
| Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Herriotts, J. | Millar, J. D. |
| Brown, W. J. (Wolverhampton, West) | Hirst, G. H. (York W. R. Wentworth) | Mills, J. E. |
| Buchanan, G. | Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) | Milner, J. |
| Burgess, F. G. | Hoffman, P. C. | Montague, Frederick |
| Buxton, C. R. (Yorks, W. R. Elland) | Hollins, A. | Morgan, Dr. H. B. |
| Buxton, Rt. Hon. Noel (Norfolk, N.) | Hopkin, Daniel | Morley, Ralph |
| Caine, Derwent Hall- | Hore-Belisha, Leslie | Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh) |
| Cape, Thomas | Horrabin, J. F. | Morrison, Herbert (Hackney, South) |
| Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S. W.) | Hudson, James H. (Huddersfield) | Morrison, Robert C. (Tottenham, N.) |
| Charleton, H. C. | Hunter, Dr. Joseph | Mort, D. L. |
| Chater, Daniel | Hutchison, Maj.-Gen. Sir R. | Moses, J. J. H. |
| Church, Major A. G. | Isaacs, George | Mosley, Lady C. (Stoke-on-Trent) |
| Cluse, W. S. | Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) | Mosley, Sir Oswald (Smethwick) |
| Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. | John, William (Rhondda, West) | Muggeridge, H. T. |
| Cocks, Frederick Seymour | Johnston, Thomas | Murnin, Hugh |
| Collins, Sir Godfrey (Greenock) | Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | Nathan, Major H. L. |
| Compton, Joseph | Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) | Naylor, T. E. |
| Cowan, D. M. | Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Noel Baker, P. J. |
| Daggar, George | Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Oldfield, J. R. |
| Dallas, George | Jowett, Rt. Hon. F. W. | Oliver, P. M. (Man., Blackley) |
| Dalton, Hugh | Jowitt, Rt. Hon. W. A. | Owen, Major G. (Carnarvon) |
| Davies, E. C. (Montgomery) | Kedward, R. M. (Kent, Ashford) | Owen, H. F. (Hereford) |
| Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Kelly, W. T. | Palin, John Henry |
| Day, Harry | Kennedy, Thomas | Palmer, E. T. |
| Denman, Hon. R. D. | Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. | Perry, S. F. |
| Dickson, T. | Kinley, J. | Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. |
| Dudgeon, Major C. R. | Kirkwood, D. | Phillips, Dr. Marion |
| Dukes, C. | Knight, Holford | Picton-Tubervill, Edith |
| Duncan, Charles | Lambert, Rt. Hon. George (S. Molton) | Pole, Major D. G. |
| Ede, James Chuter | Lang, Gordon | Ponsonby, Arthur |
| Edge, Sir William | Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George | Potts, John S. |
| Edmunds, J. E. | Lathan, G. | Price, M. P. |
| Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) | Law, Albert (Bolton) | Pybus, Percy John |
| Egan, W. H. | Law, A. (Rosendale) | Quibell, D. J. K. |
| Elmley, Viscount | Lawrence, Susan | Ramsay, T. B. Wilson |
| England, Colonel A. | Lawrie, Hugh Hartley (Stalybridge) | Richards, R. |
| Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univer) | Lawson, John James | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) |
| Foot, Isaac | Lawther, W. (Barnard Castle) | Riley, Ben (Dewsbury) |
| Forgan, Dr. Robert | Leach, W. | Riley, F. F. (Stockton-on-Tees) |
| Freeman, Peter | Lee, Frank (Derby, N. E.) | Ritson, J. |
| Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs, Stretford) | Smith, Frank (Nuneaton) | Wallhead, Richard C. |
| Romeril, H. G. | Smith, H. B. Lees (Keighley) | Watkins, F. C. |
| Rosbotham, D. S. T. | Smith, Rennie (Penistone) | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline) |
| Rothschild, J. de | Smith, Tom (Pontefract) | Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda) |
| Rowson, Guy | Smith, W. R. (Norwich) | Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah |
| Russell, Richard John (Eddisbury) | Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip | Wellock, Wilfred |
| Salter, Dr. Alfred | Snowden, Thomas (Accrington) | Welsh, James (Paisley) |
| Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen) | Sorensen, R. | Welsh, James C. (Coatbridge) |
| Samuel, H. W. (Swansea, West) | Spero, Dr. G. E. | West, F. R. |
| Sanders, W. S. | Stamford, Thomas W. | Westwood, Joseph |
| Sandham, E. | Stephen, Campbell | Wheatley, Rt. Hon. J. |
| Sawyer, G. F. | Stewart, J. (St. Rollox) | White, H. G. |
| Scott, James | Strachey, E. J. St. Loe | Whiteley, Wilfrid (Birm., Ladywood) |
| Scurr, John | Strauss, G. R. | Whiteley, William (Blaydon) |
| Sexton, James | Sullivan, J. | Wilkinson, Ellen C. |
| Shakespeare, Geoffrey H. | Sutton, J. E. | Williams, David (Swansea, East) |
| Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) | Taylor, R. A. (Lincoln) | Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly) |
| Shepherd, Arthur Lewis | Taylor, W. B. (Norfolk, S. W.) | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Sherwood, G. H. | Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby) | Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe) |
| Shield, George William | Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow) | Wilson, J. (Oldham) |
| Shiels, Dr. Drummond | Thurtle, Ernest | Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| Shillaker, J. F. | Tinker, John Joseph | Winterton, G. E. (Leicester, Loughb'gh) |
| Shinwell, E. | Toole, Joseph | Wise, E. F. |
| Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) | Tout, W. J. | Wright, W. (Rutherglen) |
| Simmons, C. J. | Townend, A. E. | Young, R. S. (Islington, North) |
| Sinclair, Sir A. (Caithness) | Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles | |
| Sinkinson, George | Turner, B. | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Smith, Alfred (Sunderland) | Viant, S. P. | Mr. Allen Parkinson and Mr. Paling. |
| Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe) | Walker, J. | |
| NOES. | ||
| Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel | Forestier-Walker, Sir L. | Morden, Col. W. Grant |
| Albery, Irving James | Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. | Morrison, W. S. (Glos., Cirencester) |
| Allen, W. E. D. (Belfast, W.) | Ganzoni, Sir John | Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Gault, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton | Muirhead, A. J. |
| Astor, Viscountess | Gibson, C. G. (Pudsey & Otley) | Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) |
| Atholl, Duchess of | Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G. (Ptrsf'ld) |
| Atkinson, C. | Glyn, Major R. G. C. | Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert |
| Balniel, Lord | Gower, Sir Robert | Oman, Sir Charles William C. |
| Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. | Grace, John | O'Neill, Sir H. |
| Beaumont, M. W. | Graham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.) | Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William |
| Berry, Sir George | Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. | Peake, Capt. Osbert |
| Boothby, R. J. G. | Gritten, W. G. Howard | Penny, Sir George |
| Bourne, Captain Robert Croft | Gunston, Captain D. W. | Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) |
| Bowyer, Captain Sir George E. W. | Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. | Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) |
| Bracken, B. | Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) | Pilditch, Sir Philip |
| Brass, Captain Sir William | Hammersley, S. S. | Pownall, Sir Assheton |
| Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) | Hanbury, C. | Purbrick, R. |
| Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Berks, Newb'y) | Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Ramsbotham, H. |
| Buchan, John | Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) | Remer, John R. |
| Buckingham, Sir H. | Haslam, Henry C. | Rentoul, Sir Gervais S. |
| Bullock, Captain Malcolm | Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. | Roberts, Sir Samuel (Ecclesall) |
| Burton, Colonel H. W. | Herbert, S. (York, N. R., Scar. & Wh'by) | Ross, Major Ronald D. |
| Butler, R. A. | Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller | Ruggles-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A. |
| Castlestewart, Earl of | Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) |
| Cautley, Sir Henry S. | Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) | Salmon, Major I. |
| Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) | Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) |
| Cazalet, Captain Victor A. | Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) | Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart |
| Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton | Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer | Savery, S. S. |
| Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston) | Hurd, Percy A. | Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down) |
| Christie, J. A. | James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert | Skelton, A. N. |
| Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer | Kindersley, Major G. M. | Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam) |
| Cockerill, Brig.-General Sir George | King, Commodore Rt. Hon. Henry D. | Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) |
| Colfox, Major William Philip | Lamb, Sir J. Q. | Smith-Carington, Neville W. |
| Colville, Major D. J. | Law, Sir Alfred (Derby, High Peak) | Smithers, Waldron |
| Cranbourne, Viscount | Leighton, Major B. E. P. | Somerset, Thomas |
| Crichton-Stuart, Lord C. | Lewis, Oswald (Colchester) | Somerville, D. G. (Willesden, East) |
| Crookshank, Cpt. H. (Lindsey, Gainsbro) | Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hon. Godfrey | Southby, Commander A. R. J. |
| Croom-Johnson, R. P. | Long, Major Eric | Spender-Clay, Colonel H. |
| Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) | Lymington, Viscount | Stanley, Lord (Fylde) |
| Cunliffe-Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip | Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) | Stanley, Maj. Hon. O. (W'morland) |
| Davies, Dr. Vernon | MacRobert, Rt. Hon. Alexander M. | Stewart, W. J. (Belfast South) |
| Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) | Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) | Stuart, J. C. (Moray and Nairn) |
| Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) | Makins, Brigadier-General E. | Sueter, Rear-Admiral M. F. |
| Dixey, A. C. | Margesson, Captain H. D. | Thomas, Major L. B. (King's Norton) |
| Duckworth, G. A. V. | Marjoribanks, E. C. | Tinne, J. A. |
| Dugdale, Capt. T. L. | Meller, R. J. | Titchfield, Major the Marquess of |
| Eden, Captain Anthony | Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) | Todd, Capt. A. J. |
| Everard, W. Lindsay | Mitchell-Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. | Train, J. |
| Falle, Sir Bertram G. | Mond, Hon. Henry | Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon |
| Fermoy, Lord | Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B. | Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L. (Kingston-on-Hull) |
| Flelden, E. B. | Moore, Sir Newton J. (Richmond) | Wardlaw-Milne, J. S. |
| Ford, Sir P. J. | Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) | Waterhouse, Captain Charles |
| Wells, Sydney R. | Womersley, W. J. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Wilson, G. H. A. (Cambridge U.) | Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley | Major Sir George Hennessy and |
| Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George | Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L. | Sir Frederick Thomson. |
| Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl | Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton |
Question put, and agreed to.