HC Deb 02 May 1929 vol 227 cc1715-9

May I ask the Prime Minister if he can now tell the House the business to be taken next week?

The PRIME MINISTER (Mr. Baldwin)

Monday: Motion to reduce the number of Allotted Supply Days from 20 to 13; Supply, Committee (11th Allotted Day), Board of Trade Estimates.

Tuesday: Supply, Committee (12th Allotted Day), Scottish Estimates.

Wednesday: Supply Report (13th Allotted Day), Ministry of Pensions Estimate.

If the House agrees to the Motion to reduce the number of Allotted Supply Days, on Tuesday at Ten o'clock, and on Wednesday at Ten o'clock, outstanding Votes will be put from the Chair.

Thursday: Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) Bill, Second Reading.

Friday: Consolidated Fund (Appropriation Bill), remaining stages; Prorogation of Parliament.

Any outstanding business which it is necessary to dispose of before Prorogation will be put down for consideration in the early part of the week.


May I ask if on the Scottish Estimates the Secretary of State for Scotland will be in charge, or will he be absent from the House?


There will be competent Ministers to deal with them.


Is the Prime Minister at liberty to insinuate that the Secretary of State for Scotland is not a competent Minister?


Has it not from time immemorial been the custom for the Secretary of State for Scotland, if in health, to be present to take charge of his Estimates, and why is he going to break the custom which has been laid down by long usage in this House?


It is perfectly obvious that at the present time there are engagements which people have entered into which it is exceedingly difficult for them to get out of. The best way to get out of such a difficulty is to arrange the date for which an Estimate is asked on a rather more suitable day than seems to have been arranged in this case.


Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the engagement which keeps the Secretary of State for Scotland from attending this House is secondary in importance to that of being in charge of the Scottish Estimates, and will he not call upon the Secretary of State to fulfil that important post for which he is paid?


I have just learned that the business which detains my right hon. Friend is of the nature with which I am sure every citizen of Glasgow will sympathize.


Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that the business which will detain him in Glasgow is secondary in importance to that of looking after the Scottish Estimates, for which he is paid, and will he not ask the Secretary of State to attend to the business of prime importance for which he is paid? Mr. Speaker, cannot I have your protection in this matter? May I ask you if you have not any authority in this House to see

that Ministers are not away on an occasion like this? If he were an unemployed man, he would be refused his benefit for not genuinely seeking work. It is work dodging.


Lord Erskine.

Motion made, and Question put, That this day, notwithstanding anything in Standing Order No. 15, Business other than Business of Supply may be taken before Eleven of the clock, and that the Proceedings on Government Business and on any Private Business set down for consideration at half-past Seven of the clock this evening, by direction of the Chairman of Ways and Means, be exempted from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House) and, notwithstanding anything in Standing Order No. 8, any such Private Business may be taken after half-past Nine of the clock."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 152; Noes, 67.

Division No. 292.] AYES. [3.47 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn
Albery, Irving James Everard, W. Lindsay Margesson, Captain D.
Allen, Sir J. Sandeman Fairfax, Captain J. G. Meller, R. J.
Applin, Colonel R. V. K. Fanshawe, Captain G. D. Mitchell, W. Foot (Saffron Walden)
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Fermoy, Lord Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham)
Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent, Dover) Fielden, E. B. Mond, Hon. H.
Atholl, Duchess of Forestier-Walker, Sir L. Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M.
Baillie-Hamilton, Hon. C. W. Fremantle, Lt.-Col. Francis E. Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. [Ayr]
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Ganzonl, Sir John. Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive
Balniel, Lord Gates, Percy Nicholson, O. (Westminster)
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Gilmour, Lt.-Col, Rt. Hon. Sir John Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G. (Ptrsf'd.)
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John Oman, Sir Charles William C.
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William
Betterton, Henry B. Hacking, Douglas H Penny, Frederick George
Bird, E. R. (Yorks, W. R. Skipton) Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Perkins, Colonel E. K.
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft Hammersley, S. S. Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple)
Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington) Peto, G. (Somerset, Frame)
Bridgeman. Rt. Hon. William Clive Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M. Price, Major C. W. M.
Briscoe, Richard George Henderson, Lieut.-Col. Sir Vivian Raine, Sir Walter
Brittain, Sir Harry Henn, Sir Sydney H. Rawson, Sir Cooper
Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. Hilton, Cecil Reid, Capt. Cunningham (Warrington)
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H.C. (Berks, Newb'y) Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. Rhys, Hon. C. A. U.
Bullock, Captain M. Hope, Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.) Ropner, Major L.
Burman, J. B. Hopkins, J. W. W. Ross, R. D.
Burton, Colonel H. W. Hopkinson, Sir A. (Eng. Universities) Salmon, Major I.
Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Campbell, E. T. Hume-Williams, Sir W. Ellis Sandeman, N. Stewart
Carver, Major W. H. Hurd, Percy A. Sanders, Sir Robert A.
Cautley, Sir Henry S. Hurst, Sir Gerald Sandon, Lord
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) Iliffe, Sir Edward M. Shaw, Lt.-Col. A. D. McI. (Renfrew. W)
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood) Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l) Shepperson, E. W.
Charteris, Brigadier-General J. James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down)
Churchman, Sir Arthur C. Joynson-Hicks, Rt. Hon. Sir William Sinclair, Col. T. (Queen's Univ., Belfst)
Clayton, G. C. King, Commodore Henry Douglas Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Smithers, Waldron
Colfox, Major William Phillips Knox, Sir Alfred Southby, Commander A. R. J.
Conway, Sir W. Martin Lamb, J. Q. Spender-Clay, Colonel H.
Cooper, A. Duff Lister, Cunliffe-, Rt. Hon. Sir Phillp Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Eraser
Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hon. Godfrey Sugden, Sir Wilfrid
Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Long, Major Eric Templeton, W. P.
Crookshank, Cpt. H. (Lindsey, Gainsbro) Looker, Herbert William Thompson, Luke (Sunderland)
Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere Thomson, Sir Frederick
Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) Lumley, L. R. Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Davies, Dr. Vernon MacAndrew Major Charles Glen Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Eden, Captain Anthony MacIntyre, I. Wallace, Captain D. E.
Elliot, Major Walter E. McLean, Major A. Ward. Lt.-Col. A. L. (Kingston-on-Hull)
Ellis, R. G MacRobert, Alexander M. Warner, Brigadier-General W. W.
Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.-M.) Makins, Brigadier-General E. Warrender, Sir Victor
Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay) Wood, Sir S. Hill- (High Peak) TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Winby, Colonel L. P. Woodcock, Colonel H. C. Major Sir George Hennessy and
Womersley, W. J. Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T. Major Sir William Cope.
Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Bromwich)
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro) Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Robinson, W. C. (Yorks, W. R., Elland)
Ammon, Charles George Hardle, George D. Russell, Richard (Eddisbury)
Attlee, Clement Richard Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Burnley) Saklatvala, Shapurji
Barr, J. Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Shepherd, Arthur Lewis
Batey, Joseph Kelly, W. T. Shield, G. W.
Bellamy, A. Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Bennett, William (Battersea, South) Lansbury, George Smith, H. B. Lees (Keighley)
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Lawrence, Susan Snell, Harry
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Lawson, John James Stephen, Campbell
Buchanan, G. MacNeill-Weir, L. Sullivan, Joseph
Buxton, Rt. Hon. Noel Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby)
Cluse, W. S. Malone, C. L'Estrange (N'thampton) Thomas, Sir Robert John (Anglesey)
Connolly, M. March, S. Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.)
Day, Harry Montague, Frederick Tinker, John Joseph
Dennison, R. Morris, R. H. Wellock, Wilfred
Duncan, C. Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Welsh, J. C.
Dunnico, H. Naylor, T. E. Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Fenby, T. D. Owen, Major G. Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Gillett, George M. Palin, John Henry Windsor, Walter
Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. Wright, W.
Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) Potts, John S.
Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Mr. Allen Parkinson and Mr. Paling.

Question put, and agreed to.