HC Deb 24 January 1929 vol 224 cc309-12
72. Captain FANSHAWE

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what decisions have been arrived at with regard to the distribution in Scotland of the fund made available for the relief of the miners; if any relief is being given outside of the necessitous mining areas and, if so, to whom; and, approximately, what proportion of the fund has now been distributed?

The UNDER-SECRETARY of STATE for SCOTLAND (Major Elliot)

The Distress in Mining Areas (Scotland) Fund is being administered by a Central Advisory Committee set up at a Conference held in Edinburgh on the 22nd December. At a meeting of the Central Advisory Committee held last week, various decisions were arrived at in regard to the policy to be followed in the administration of the Fund, and it is hoped to issue a Circular to Local Authorities this week intimating those decisions. In order to secure uniformity of administration as between the different districts, the Committee have fixed a scale of household income to be followed by Local Committees in considering applications for assistance, a discretion being allowed to Local Committees to exceed this scale in exceptional circumstances. Assistance from the Fund may be given either by way of food (which may include feeding of children at school) or clothing, by assisting suitable persons to move to other areas where employment has been found, or by assisting emigration. As regards the second part of the question, the Central Advisory Committee have decided to draw up a list of parishes which, for the purposes of the Fund, may reasonably be regarded as "mining areas." Within those parishes assistance from the Fund will not be limited to miners, and persons in distress in other industries will be entitled to make application for assistance. Outside those parishes, only the claims of mineworkers will be entertained. As regards the last part of the question, the Central Advisory Committee have distributed £20,000 to Local Authorities, representing about one-ninth of the present total of the Fund.

Captain FANSHAWE

Can my hon. and gallant Friend assure me that the same considerations will be given to distressed miners who live outside the scheduled parishes as is given to them if they reside within?

Major ELLIOT

Yes, Sir.

Mr. DENNISON

Will the hon. and gallant Gentleman have regard to the distress which is prevailing among other workpeople who are not included in what may be described as a mining area?

Major ELLIOT

It is not possible for us to take account of that under the terms for the collection of the Fund.

Mr. DENNISON

But in view of the fact that the Government are now making a contribution from the taxpayers' money, ought not this Fund to apply to all cases of distress, and not be specifically earmarked for individuals?

Major ELLIOT

It would take a long time to go into all the reasons for the decisions which have been come to. Those decisions were come to by the Advisory Committee, and workers in certain other industries, as well as the miners, were represented on that Committee.

Mr. SHINWELL

Is the amount of relief expended, £20,000, not very low having regard to the amount of distress in Scotland?

Major ELLIOT

That was merely the first interim distribution. The remaining distributions will take place as rapidly as the machinery which is set up can deal with applications.

Mr. ERNEST BROWN

When the hon. and gallant Member speaks of representatives of other industries being on the Advisory Committee, does that mean inside the area? Were representatives from distressed shipyard areas like Leith or the Clyde also consulted with regard to the need in those areas?

Major ELLIOT

The particular industry which I had in mind was that of the steel-workers. The steel-workers are concerned with industries in various parts of the country.

Mr. BROWN

Was any consideration given to the industry most distressed of the whole lot, shipbuilding?

Mr. DENNISON

Will steel workers not within mining areas who are suffering from unemployment receive relief from this fund?

Major ELLIOT

According to the decision of the Central Advisory Committee, on which, as I say, the steel-workers were represented, it will not be possible to relieve workers in other industries residing outside the scheduled mining areas.

Mr. KELLY

Arising out of that portion of the reply dealing with the transference to other districts, is it meant that the cost of transferring people under the Ministry of Labour transfer Scheme will come out of this Fund?

Major ELLIOT

Oh, no. This fund, as it has been clearly explained by the Secretary of State, is not to serve as a replacement either of local relief or central relief, but it is to serve in a supplementary capacity to statutory assistance.

Mr. BROWN

Has shipbuilding been considered, in view of the fact that out of 25,000 insured workers, at least 5,090 are out of work at the present moment?

Major ELLIOT

As the hon. Member knows, the question of shipbuilding did not arise either in the Debates in the House or in the appeal for funds which were made.

Mr. BROWN

Is the hon. and gallant Member not aware that I put a question to the Prime Minister myself?

Mr. STEWART

What is the scale of relief which has been decided upon? The hon. and gallant Member mentioned the scale, but he did not give any indication as to what it was.

Major ELLIOT

The scale of relief, along with other relevant facts, will be found in the circular which will be issued this week to the various bodies concerned.

Mr. W. THORNE

Are the Government going to give pound for pound in Scotland?

Major ELLIOT

At the present time the Government are contributing to Scotland its due proportion of 11/80ths of all money contributed by the Government towards any fund in the United Kingdom, that is 11/80ths of Government subscriptions towards the Lord Mayor's Fund.

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