HC Deb 05 February 1929 vol 224 cc1733-8

Amendment made: In page 8, line 6, after the word "every," insert the words: person who at the commencement of this Act is employed as a teacher by an education authority; (ii) every other."—[Sir J. Gilmour.]

Amendment proposed:

In page 8, line 41, as the end, to insert the words: (f) The provisions of paragraph 2 of the said Schedule shall apply only in the case of a person who was, at the passing of this Act, in the full-time employment of a local authority or who, at that time, held two or more offices under two or more local authorities and devoted the whole of his time to the duties of such offices; (g) In computing the service of any officer for the purpose of an award of compensation account shall he taken only of the service of that officer under any local authority after he attained the age of 18 years, and where the officer held two or more offices and the claim to compensation is based on a loss of one or some only of those offices account shall not be taken of service in an office which the officer continues to hold; (h) Where a person who, both at the passing and at the commencement of this Act, is in the full-time employment of an officer of a transferor or transferee authority (other than an officer holding a temporary appointment) and is engaged solely on the work of the authority, suffers direct pecuniary loss by termination of his employment in consequence of his employer, if an officer of a transferor authority, not becoming an officer of the transferee authority or if an officer of a transferee authority ceasing to be an officer of that authority or otherwise in consequence of anything done under, or in pursuance of, or in consequence of this Act, the transferee authority may in their discretion pay to such person by way of compensation such sum as they think proper not exceeding the compensation which would have been payable to him had he, while employed and engaged as aforesaid, been in the full-time employment of the authority of which his employer was an officer: For the purposes of this Sub-section a district council shall be deemed not to be a transferee authority.—[Sir J. Gilmour.]

Question put, "Thai the Amendment be made."

The Committee proceeded to a Division.

Mr. ERSKINE

(seated and covered): On a point of Order. May I ask you, Mr. Hope, whether it would be in order to move that the further proceedings be postponed until the Government have come to a decision on the question of safeguarding iron and steel?

HON. MEMBERS

Order! order!

Mr. ERSKINE

On that point of Order. May I have a reply to my question, Mr. Hope, or did you not hear me?

The CHAIRMAN

It is one to which I think it is unnecessary to reply.

The Committee divided: Ayes. 205; Noes, 110.

Division No. 169.] AYES. [11.10 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Gates, Percy Plicher, G.
Albery, Irving James Gault, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton Power, Sir John Cecil
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Price, Major C. W. M.
Alexander, Sir Wm. (Glasgow, Cent'l) Gower, Sir Robert Radford, E. A.
Allen, Sir J. Sandeman Grant, Sir J. A. Raine, Sir Walter
Applin, Colonel R. V. K. Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. Rees, Sir Beddoe
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Greene, W. P. Crawford Rhys, Hon. C. A. U.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London) Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y)
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Hacking, Douglas H. Roberts, E. H. G. (Flint)
Barnett, Major Sir Richard Hall, Capt. W. D'A. (Brecon & Rad.) Roberts, Sir Samuel (Hereford)
Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish- Hanbury, C. Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs., Stretford)
Berry, Sir George Harland, A. Ropner, Major L.
Betterton, Henry B. Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington) Ross, R. D.
Bevan, S. J. Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M. Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Birchali, Major J. Dearman Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley) Rye, F. G.
Biundell, F. N. Henderson, Lieut.-Col. Sir Vivian Salmon, Major I.
Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. Hills, Major John Waller Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Brassey, Sir Leonard Hilton, Cecil Sandeman, N. Stewart
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Hope, Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.) Sanders, Sir Robert A.
Briggs, J. Harold Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D.
Briscoe, Richard George Hopkins, J. W. W. Savory, S. S.
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) Shaw, Lt.-Col. A. D. Mcl. (Renfrew, W.)
Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. Horne, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert S. Shepperson, E. W.
Broun-Lindsay, Major H. Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. Skelton, A. N.
Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) Hudson, Capt. A. U. M.(Hackney, N.) Smith, R. W.(Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.)
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Berks, Newb'y) Hume, Sir G. H. Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Buchan, John Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer Smithers, Waldron
Bullock, Captain M. Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l) Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Carver, Major W. H. Jones, Sir G. W. H. (Stoke New'gton) Southby, Commander A. R. J.
Cautley, Sir Henry S. Kennedy, A. R. (Preston) Spender-Clay, Colonel H.
Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) Kindersley. Major Guy M. Sprot, Sir Alexander
Cayzer, Maj. Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth. S.) King, Commodore Henry Douglas Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Steel, Major Samuel Strang
Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton Knox, Sir Alfred Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H.
Chapman, Sir S. Lamb, J. Q. Streatfeild, Captain S. R.
Charteris, Brigadier-General J. Lister, Cunliffe-, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Stuart, Crichton-, Lord C.
Clayton, G. C. Looker, Herbert William Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Cobb, Sir Cyril Luce, Major-Gen. Sir Richard Harman Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser
Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D. MacAndrew Major Charles Glen Sugden, Sir Wilfrid
Cockerill, Brig.-General Sir George Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) Tasker, R. Inlgo.
Cooper, A. Duff Macdonald, R. (Glasgow, Cathcart) Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Couper, J. B. McLean, Major A. Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell-
Courtauld, Major J. S. Macmillan, Captain H. Tinne, J. A.
Cowan, Sir Wm. Henry (Islingtn., N.) Macquisten, F. A. Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Craig, Sir Ernest (Chester, Crewe) MacRobert Alexander M. Turton, Sir Edmund Russborough
Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) Vaughan-Morgan, Col. K. P.
Crookshank, Col. C. de W. (Berwick) Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L (Kingston-on-Hull)
Crookshank, Cpt. H. (Landsey, Gainsbro) Marriott, Sir J. A. R. Warner, Brigadier-General W. W.
Dalkeith, Earl of Mason, Colonel Glyn K. Warrender, Sir Victor
Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) Meller, R. J. Watson, Sir F. (Pudsey and Otley)
Davies, Dr. Vernon Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle)
Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Mitchell, W. Foot (Saffron Walden) Watts, Sir Thomas
Dawson, Sir Philip Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Wells, S. R.
Dixey, A. C. Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M. Williams, A. M. (Cornwall, Northern)
Dixon, Captain Rt. Hon. Herbert Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr) Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay)
Eden, Captain Anthony Moore, Sir Newton J. Williams, Herbert G. (Reading)
Edmondson, Major A. J. Moreing, Captain A. H. Wilson, Sir C. H (Leeds, Central)
Elliot, Major Walter E. Morrison, H. (Wilts, Salisbury) Wilson, Sir Murrough (Yorks, Richm'd)
Ellis, R. G. Nail, Colonel Sir Joseph Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith Nelson, Sir Frank Withers, John James
Everard, W. Lindsay Neville, Sir Reginald J. Wolmer, Viscount
Fairfax, Captain J. G. Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter) Womersley, W. J.
Falle, Sir Bertram G. Nuttall, Ellis Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Fanshawe, Captain G. D. Oakley, T. Wood, Sir S. Hill- (High Peak)
Fielden, E. B. Oman, Sir Charles William C. Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton (Norwich)
Ford, Sir P. J. Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William
Forrest, W. Penny, Frederick George TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Fraser, Captain Ian Perring, Sir William George Major Sir George Hennessy and
Gadie, Lieut.-Col. Anthony Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) Captain Bowyer.
Ganzoni, Sir John Peto, G. (Somerset, Frome)
NOES.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Griffith, F. Kingsley Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Bromwich)
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Groves, T. Runciman, Rt Hon. Walter
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Grundy, T. W. Sakiatvala, Shapurji
Ammon, Charles George Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) Scrymgeour, E.
Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bilston) Hail, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Scurr, John
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston)
Barnes, A. Hardle, George D. Shepherd, Arthur Lewis
Barr, J. Harris, Percy A. Shiels, Dr. Drummond
Beckett, John (Gateshead) Hayday, Arthur Shinwell, E.
Bellamy, A. Hirst, G. H. Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Benn, Wedgwood Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness)
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Hollins, A. Sitch, Charles H.
Bromfield, William Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) Smillie, Robert
Bromley, J. Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) Smith, Rennie (Penistone)
Brown, Ernest (Leith) John, William (Rhondda, West) Stamford, T. W.
Brown, James (Ayr and Butt) Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Stephen, Campbell
Buchanan, G. Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) Stewart, J. (St. Rollox)
Cape, Thomas Kelly, W. T. Sullivan, J.
Charleton, H. C. Kennedy, T. Sutton, J. E.
Clark, A. B. Kirkwood, D Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Cluse, W. S. Lansbury, George Tomlinson, R. P.
Compton, Joseph Lawson, John James Townend, A. E.
Cove, W. G. Livingstone, A. M. Viant, S. P.
Dennison, R. Longbottom, A. W. Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Duncan, C. Lowth, T. Wellock, Wilfred
Dunnico, H. Macdonald. Sir Murdoch (Inverness) Welsh, J. C.
Edge, Sir William Mackinder, W. Westwood, J.
England, Colonel A. Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) Wheatley, Rt. Hon. J.
Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univer.) MacNeill-Weir, L. Wiggins, William Martin
Fenby, T. D. Mitchell, E. Rosslyn (Paisley) Williams, Dr. J. H (Llanelly)
Gardner, J. p. Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Gibbins, Joseph Mosley, Sir Oswald Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Gillett, George M. Murnin, H. Windsor, Walter
Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Oliver, George Harold Wright, W
Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan)
Greenall, T. Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Coine) Potts, John S.
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Ritson, J. Mr. Charles Edwards and Mr. T. Henderson.

Question, "That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill," put, and agreed to.

Further Amendment made: In page 9, line 17, leave out the words "frame a scheme providing," and insert instead thereof the words "by scheme provide."—[Sir J. Gilmour.]

It being after Eleven of the Clock, the CHAIRMAN left the Chair to make his Report to the House,

Committee report Progress; to sit again To-morrow.

The remaining Orders were read, and postponed.

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