Commander Sir BOLTON EYRES MONSELLCan the Leader of the House tell us what business he intends to transact before the Adjournment?
§ The PRIME MINISTER (Mr. Ramsay MacDonald)The Government desire that the House should adjourn for the Christmas Recess on the 20th December, that is, on the Friday, and to reassemble on the 21st January. These dates are contingent upon the completion of certain essential business. In the first place, it is necessary to provide before the end of this month £3,500,000 to meet certain charges on the Exchequer arising under the existing Unemployment Insurance Acts. This money will have to be provided by a Supplementary Estimate. It is proposed to take also a Supplementary Estimate of approximately £10,000 to provide for the Highlands and Islands Medical Service. The Government propose also to 249 take the Second Reading of the Goal Mining Industry Bill before the adjournment. This Bill, will, I hope, be in the hands of Members of the House on Thursday the 12th instant, and the Second Reading will be taken on Tuesday and Friday of next week. Perhaps I might summarise the above statement in the form of a programme:
Monday, 16th December, Unemployment Insurance Bill, completion of further stages. The House will remember that the Bill is down on Thursday for Report, and next Monday for further discussion on Report and the Third Reading. Supplementary Estimates, Ministry of Labour, for approximately £3,500,000, arising out of existing Unemployment Insurance Acts; Department of Health, Scotland, £10,000 Vote arising under the Highlands and Islands Medical Service. That will be followed immediately by Committee of Ways and Means, as usual, covering the Supplementary Estimates up to date.
§ The PRIME MINISTERFor Monday. There is nothing very much in it.
Tuesday: Coal Mining Industry Bill, Second Reading, first day; Report of the Supplementary Estimates taken on the 16th, and Ways and Means Resolutions.
Thursday: Coal Mining Industry Bill, completion of Second Reading stage; Consolidated Fund Bill, Second Reading.
Friday: Further stages of Consolidated Fund Bill, and Motion for the Adjournment.
The right hon. Gentleman the Leader of the Opposition asked me yesterday whether it would be possible to provide days for discussion of the Government policy in regard to Egypt and Singapore. I am afraid that it will be impossible to do that before Christmas. I propose that those matters should be discussed during the first two weeks after we reassemble.
Sir B. EYRES MONSELLIs the right hon. Gentleman aware that in this extraordinary programme the Opposition is being absolutely stifled in this House? I have only had the programme for a short time in my hands. As far as I can gather from it, the right hon. Gentleman expects us to take a Supplementary Estimate for £3,500,000 after Eleven 250 o'clock. I do not quite know what is to happen to the Report stage of the Lord Privy Seal's salary. Perhaps the Government do not want to have another discussion on unemployment, and I do not blame them. The Second Reading of the Consolidated Fund Bill is also down for after Eleven o'clock—one of the classic opportunities for discussing Government policy. Not one hour has been given to the Opposition who have officially demanded time, and rightly demanded time, to discuss Egypt and Singapore. I would ask the right hon. Gentleman whether His Majesty's Opposition have any rights at all under a Socialist Administration?
Mr. LLOYD GEORGEI should like to ask the Leader of the House whether he does not think it would be desirable that we should have another opportunity of discussing unemployment, and not merely the grant of £3,500,000, which is a definite proposition, and its merits or demerits, as the case may be. A White Paper has just been placed in our hands, which indicates the programme of the Lord Privy Seal. Surely, before we separate for December and January, there ought to be an opportunity for a full discussion upon that programme, and I trust that the right hon. Gentleman will find a day for that purpose. When will the Coal Mines Bill be in the hands of Members? [HON. MEMBERS: "Thursday!"] I know that it will be Thursday, but what time on Thursday Will it be early, so as to enable us to consider it before we separate, and so that we can have consultations among ourselves as to the line we should take?
§ The PRIME MINISTERI am sorry that the right hon. and gallant Gentleman thinks that we are saddling them with too much. We are trying to get through what, I admit, is a pretty heavy programme, but it is essential that it should be done. [HON. MEMBERS: "Why?"] Hon. Members know perfectly well that I am not likely at this time of the Session to be too controversial, but a very large part of the work which we found we had to do was left over by our predecessors. [HON. MEMBERS: "No!"] Still, that is all right. I do not complain, but it is part of the explanation of the heavy programme which has to he got through before Christmas. With reference to the Report stage of my right 251 hon. Friend's Supplementary Estimate, we did not propose to take that before Christmas. We find that it is unnecessary from the Treasury point of view that it should be included in this Consolidated Find Bill, because another Consolidated Fund Bill will be required early in the new year. There are certain remnants—again, not our fault—which will require a Supplementary Estimate which we shall not be able to prepare before Christmas, and, with regard to the scheme for the beet-sugar subsidy, I am informed that that will require a Supplementary Estimate. We did not intend, therefore, to ask the House to take the Report stage of that Vote.
As far as the other business is concerned, the Consolidated Fund Bill is not the main Consolidated Fund Bill; it is only the Consolidated Fund Bill which covers questions which have already been discussed in Committee and Report stage, so that the field of discussion is a very limited one. As far as the Coal Mines Bill is concerned, I do not want to say that it can be had to-morrow, evening, which I am not sure would be possible. I have asked that that should be done if it can be clone, but I am told that it is very doubtful. In any event, it will be circulated with the Papers on Thursday morning.
Mr. LLOYD GEORGEMay I have an answer to the question I put to the right hon. Gentleman with regard to providing an opportunity for the discussion of the question of unemployment?
§ The PRIME MINISTERI am very sorry. I understood that I had answered it. The opportunity will be on the Report stage of the Vote, and that will not be taken until after Christmas.
Sir LAMING WORTHINGTONEVANSThe Prime Minister intends to avoid a further discussion on the general question of unemployment and the measures which the Government are proposing to take until after Christmas. He proposes definitely to deprive the Opposition of the right to discuss the White Paper which is now being put in the Vote Office for the first time to-day, and he is doing that, as I suggest, quite unnecessarily, because he has got the time which 252 could be used for the purpose if he were to postpone the Coal Mines Bill—[ Interruption]—I do not want to postpone its operation, its action, but it is not in the least necessary that the Coal Mines Bill should have its Second Reading this side of Christmas. If it is ready tomorrow or the next day the right hon. Gentleman can have it printed and circulated, we can consider it and it can come up for Second Reading as soon as we resume after Christmas. If the Government do that, they will not lose a single day for operative action on the Bill when it is finally carried. It is not, therefore, right to suggest that the cat is out of the bag and we are trying to postpone this Bill. That is not at all what we are doing. We are saying that there is only a limited amount of time between now and Christmas, and the Government have got the opportunity either to ask for the Second Reading of the Coal Mines Bill at very short notice and without the House really having proper time to consider it, or they have the right to say to the House, "Consider now our proposals that we have put into a White Paper for dealing with unemployment."
Which is the more important? Which is the more urgent? I venture to say that the Government are not treating the Opposition rightly. It is not fair to the Opposition. We ought to have some rights in the matter, and every previous Opposition has been accorded rights in this matter. The right hon. Gentleman says that there can be a discussion on the Consolidated Fund Bill, but what does he propose to do with the Consolidated Fund Bill? He proposes to bring it in on Tuesday next after 11 o'clock, and he knows well that there cannot be an effective discussion on the Bill. We wish to challenge him on his unemployment policy, and we ask him to put the Privy Seal's salary down so that we may be able to do so.
§ Mr. J. JONESrose—
§ Mr. SPEAKERThere is no question before the House.
§ The PRIME MINISTERBy the leave of the House, might I say it is of the utmost importance that the Second Reading of the Coal Mines Bill should be taken before Christmas? [HON. MEMBERS: "Why?"] In order that the Bill and its proposals should be con- 253 sidered by this House at the very earliest possible moment, so that negotiations, if necessary, may be carried on after the expression and consideration of views, and the very best opportunity the Government can have for doing that is while the House of Commons is not sitting. If the Second Reading is postponed until the end of January, or the beginning of February, it will be an exceedingly unfortunate thing from the point of view of getting this Bill satisfactorily discussed by all interests and steps taken during the Committee stage to adjust anything that requires adjustment. The Government would really, with great respect to the Opposition, press for that. There is one thing I want to say. I doubt very much if Members opposite will find that the Second Reading of this Consolidated Fund Bill will give them very much opportunity for discussion. I take that into account in asking that this programme should be accepted. I am taking nothing from the Opposition, but, if they do want an extra day, I am prepared to give it. If they want two days, I am prepared to give them. I do think that, with the very short Recess, it will be perfectly possible for us to resume the business that has been left over, at the end of January, but, as has been said so often by Prime Ministers, I am perfectly willing to leave it for consideration and arrangement through the usual channels.
§ Sir PHILIP CUNLIFFE-LISTERThe Prime Minister has made a special appeal in connection with the Coal Mines Bill, and he has put it on the ground that it is very important that opinion in this House should be expressed at the earliest possible moment, in order that considered opinion may be gained, and that the Government may possibly reconsider proposals in the light of any criticism expressed. May I put this? In the first place, this is a Bill of apparently so difficult a character that it is now six months since the President of the Board of Trade announced the general lines of his policy, and it has taken him, six months to prepare the Bill which he is now going to circulate. [ Interruption.] I think the Prime Minister would wish these questions put. It was before the Recess that the President of the Board of Trade announced his intention and the general lines of the question with which 254 he proposed to deal. It is now six months, or very nearly six months—five months. [An HON. MEMBER: "Make it four!"] Well, I will make it four—it is much nearer five. It has taken the Government that time to prepare this Bill. It, therefore, obviously, is a Bill which any reasonable critic would want considerable time to digest. In the second place, I understand all that period has been occupied in negotiations with one interest or another, or with one body or another, and, therefore, it is surely not unreasonable that further time should be required. Lastly, I would suggest to the Prime Minister that if he wants to get from the House of Commons a considered judgment on this Bill on Second Reading, is it not reasonable that the Opposition on both sides, who do not wish in this matter to be a factious Opposition, but to consider the Bill on its merits, should have the opportunity of considering its details and taking counsel with a large number of people who may be able to advise them and make representations to them?
Mr. LLOYD GEORGEI should like again to ask the Prime Minister whether he would not defer to what, after all, is the general sense of at least the majority of Members of this House? My hon. Friends and I raise no objection to the Second Reading of the Coal Mines Bill, and we are not asking for it not to be taken, although I think there is a very considerable force in what has been said by the right hon. Gentleman who has just sat down, that the Government have been considering these proposals for six months and are introducing the Bill on the very eve of Christmas, and therefore have no right, in my judgment, to force it through without consideration. But I am back on the question of unemployment. It is very vital that we should have a Debate upon what the Government are doing on the question of unemployment before Christmas. As far as we are concerned, we have no objection to the right hon. Genlteman sitting very late, and I do not think it ought to be said that the Opposition, or any part of it, declines on a matter of that importance to do so. I would not like hon. and right hon. Members opposite to go to the country and say that their interest in the unemployed was so trifling that they were not prepared to take another day before Christmas. Speaking for ourselves we 255 will sit on any day to consider the question of unemployment. Further, I should have thought that even on the question of mines it would have served the Government better if they had reverted to the old practice of introducing their Bill with an explanation. That was the old method always followed in regard to very important controversial bills, because the House of 'Commons could examine and discuss a Bill without coming to a decision. That is an advantage from the point of view of the Government, as well as from the point of view of the House and the country.
All important Bills since I have been in the House have been introduced in that way. We could then have a discussion, it may be a day's discussion, on the First Reading of the Bill on the question that leave be given to introduce the Bill. That does not force a division. That was the course followed in the case of the Home Rule Bill of 1903, a very controversial Measure. [ Interruption.] I am trying to be helpful. That procedure would give an opportunity to the House to examine the principles of the Bill, to call attention to any defects there may be in it and give the Government and all parties in the House fuller time to consider the matter. Anyone who has introduced a big Bill knows that it also gives the Government the opportunity to make alterations in the Bill before it is finally printed. I have seen that done by both parties, and it is perfectly legitimate. If the Prime Minister cannot give me an answer now, I hope that he will not finally close the door on the suggestion that I am making. It would give us a full day for the discussion of unemployment which everyone desires. If he cannot see his way to accept the suggestion, then I am perfectly certain that there is no party in the House which will refuse to sit at any time he likes to consider the question of unemployment.
§ Mr. MAXTONI urge the Prime Minister to resist the demands of the Oppositions in this matter. I have not been in many Parliaments, but I have been in sufficient to say with authority that the Opposition have had greater opportunities for first-class Debates in this Parliament than ever before. They have also been consulted to a much greater extent than ever before. On the 256 question of unemployment, I only say this, that the Coal Mines Bill deals with what is one of the most obstinate, difficult, and pitiable aspects of unemployment. It deals with an attempt, not merely to develop fantastic schemes, but to put a basic industry properly on its feet. It would be a grievous thing indeed if the first stage of that important Measure were not completed before the House adjourned. If the Prime Minister feels it possible to give an extra day for the general discussion on unemployment by taking a day off the Christmas Recess, he may do so, but I certainly hope he will resist any attempt to press him to give up a day allocated to the Coal Mines Bill or any other discussion whatever.
§ Mr. J. JONESNot being a leader of any party but, representing the back benchers, I would like to ask why this House should complacently accept the situation that we are going to have three weeks' holiday. In my constituency, there are thousands of people who are not certain of a decent Christmas dinner. They will be on semi-starvation during the three weeks that we are on holiday, and, when all these questions of time come up for consideration, cannot we consider them? If it is necessary to have a day's discussion on unemployment—[ Interruption]—some hon. Members may wriggle in their seats—I must point out that the people we represent are not so anxious as we are about holidays. Cannot we give them a whole week's discussion? I shall be pleased to 'meet hon. Members opposite and discuss unemployment at any time. They know more about it than I do. Some of them have been out of work all their lives. [ Interruption.]
§ The PRIME MINISTERAll I can say at the moment, in addition to what I have said, is that I am perfectly willing to leave the matter for consideration through the usual channels, that we have gone into the programme very carefully indeed, and, if the Opposition will allow me to associate myself with it for a second, from their point of view it has been very carefully considered. But we must have an adequate debate upon this Coal Mines Bill before we adjourn. The reason is perfectly obvious. It is that given by the right hon. Member opposite. We should like, after the display of this 257 Bill to the House and after getting the opinion of the House upon the general question, time for consultation and consideration of details, and that is best done after the Second Reading of a Bill and before the Committee stage. That is what I had in mind. So far as unemployment is concerned, it is absolutely impossible to discuss it and take the Coal Mines Bill unless we have an extra day. I should be glad to arrange an extra day in such a way as to suit the convenience of all parties in the House. [HON. MEMBERS: "Saturday!"] Yes, it might be on a Saturday. In that event, I could restore to my programme the Report stage of the Lord Privy Seal's Vote, taking care that it is sufficiently wide to cover a discussion on unemployment.
§ Mr. E. BROWNMay I point out that we are now proposing to adjourn on a Friday, which is only a half day? Do I understand that Friday will be treated as a whole Parliamentary day from 2.45 to 11 o'clock at night?
§ The PRIME MINISTERI want the two opposition parties to decide on what they desire, and then I will then announce it on behalf of the Government.
Sir B. EYRES MONSELLMay I put the point which I have been putting in private for some time, that we should not spend two days on a discussion of the Coal Mines Bill, but should revert to the earlier practice of this House. The right hon. Gentleman says that he is willing to give us another day for the discussion on the Report stage of the Supplementary Estimate for the Lord Privy Seal's Vote, which would enable us to debate unemployment. The matter does not rest there. There have been from this Box inquiries as to a day for the discussion of Egypt and Singapore, and I do not think the just demands of the Opposition should be ignored in this way. We on this side are perfectly willing to sit on Christmas Eve, but we are not going to be deterred from doing what we think is our duty by threats about Christmas holidays.
§
Motion made, and Question put,
That the Proceedings in Committee on the Unemployment Insurance (No. 2) Bill be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House).—[ The Prime Minister.]
§ The House divided: Ayes, 297; Noes, 155.
261| Division No. 84.] | AYES. | [4.27 p.m. |
| Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) | Cameron, A. G. | Gossling, A. G. |
| Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) | Cape, Thomas | Gould, F. |
| Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. Christopher | Carter, W. (St. Pancras, S.W.) | Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) |
| Altchison, Rt. Hon. Craigie M. | Charleton, H. C. | Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin.,Cent.) |
| Alexander, Rt. Hon. A. V. (Hillsbro') | Chater,. Daniel | Granville, E. |
| Alpass, J. H. | Church, Major A. G. | Greenwood, Rt. Hon. A. (Colne) |
| Ammon, Charles George | Cluse, W. S. | Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) |
| Angell, Norman | Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R | Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro' W.) |
| Arnott, John | Cocks, Frederick Seymour | Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) |
| Aske, Sir Robert | Compton, Joseph | Groves, Thomas E. |
| Ayles, Walter | Cove, William G. | Grundy, Thomas W. |
| Baker, John (Wolverhampton, Bllston) | Cowan, D. M. | Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) |
| Barnes, Alfred John | Daggar, George | Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvll) |
| Batey, Joseph | Dallas, George | Hall, Capt. W. P. (Portsmouth, C.) |
| Beckett, John (Camberwell, Peckham) | Dalton, Hugh | Hamilton, Mary Agnes (Blackburn) |
| Bellamy, Albert | Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) | Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Zetland) |
| Benn, Rt. Hon. Wedgwood | Day, Harry | Hardie, George D. |
| Bennett, Capt. E. N. (Cardiff, Central) | Denman, Hon. R. D. | Harris, Percy A. |
| Bennett, William (Battersea, South) | Dickson, T. | Hartshorn, Rt. Hon. Vernon |
| Benson, G. | Dukes, C. | Hastings, Dr. Somerville |
| Bentham, Dr. Ethel | Duncan, Charles | Haycock, A. W. |
| Bevan, Aneurin (Ebbw Vale) | Ede, James Chuter | Hayday, Arthur |
| Bondfield, Rt. Hon. Margaret | Edge, Sir William | Henderson, Right Hon. A. (Burnley) |
| Bowen, J. W. | Edmunds, J. E. | Henderson, Thomas (Glasgow) |
| Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. | Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) | Henderson, W. W. (Middx., Enfield) |
| Broad, Francis Alfred | Edwards, E. (Morpeth) | Herriotts, J. |
| Brockway, A. Fenner | Egan, W. H. | Hirst, G. H. (York W. R. Wentworth) |
| Bromfield, William | Elmley, Viscount | Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) |
| Bromley, J. | England, Colonel A. | Hoffman, P. C. |
| Brothers, M. | Foot, Isaac | Hollins, A. |
| Brown, Ernest (Leith) | Freeman, Peter | Hopkin, Daniel |
| Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Gardner, B. W. (West Ham, Upton) | Hore-Belisha, Leslie. |
| Brown, W. J. (Wolverhampton, West) | Gardner, J. P. (Hammersmith, N.) | Horrabin, J. F. |
| Buchanan, G. | George, Rt. Hon. D. Lloyd (Car'vn) | Hudson, James H. (Huddersfield) |
| Burgess, F. G. | George, Megan Lloyd (Anglesea) | Hutchison, Maj.-Gen. Sir R. |
| Burgin, Dr. E. L. | Gibbins, Joseph | Isaacs, George |
| Buxton, C. R. (Yorks. W. R. Elland) | Gill, T. H. | Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) |
| Buxton, Rt. Hon. Noel (Norfolk, N.) | Gillett, George M. | John, William (Rhondda, West) |
| Caine, Derwent Hall- | Glassey, A. E. | Johnston, Thomas |
| Jones, F. Llewellyn-(Flint) | Morrison, Robert C. (Tottenham, N.) | Sinkinson, George |
| Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) | Mort, D. L. | Sitch, Charles H. |
| Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown) | Moses, J. J. H. | Smith, Alfred (Sunderland) |
| Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) | Mosley, Lady C. (Stoke-on-Trent) | Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe) |
| Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Mosley, Sir Oswald (Smethwick) | Smith, Frank (Nuneaton) |
| Jowett, Rt. Hon. F. W. | Muff, G. | Smith, H. B. Lees (Keighley) |
| Jowitt, Rt. Hon. Sir W. A. | Muggeridge, H. T. | Smith, Rennie (Penistone) |
| Kelly, W. T. | Murnin, Hugh | Smith, Tom (Pontefract) |
| Kennedy, Thomas | Naylor, T. E. | Smith, W. R. (Norwich) |
| Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. | Noel Baker, P. J. | Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip |
| Kinley, J. | Oldfield, J. R. | Snowden, Thomas (Accrington) |
| Kirkwood, D. | Oliver, George Harold (Ilkeston) | Sorensen, R. |
| Knight, Holford | Oliver, P. M. (Man., Blackley) | Spero, Dr. G. E. |
| Lambert, Rt. Hon. George (S. Molton) | Owen, Major G. (Carnarvon) | Stamford, Thomas W. |
| Lansbury, Rt. Hon. George | Owen, H. F. (Hereford) | Stephen, Campbell |
| Lathan, G. | Paling, Wilfrid | Stewart, J. (St. Rollox) |
| Law, Albert (Bolton) | Palmer, E. T. | Strachey, E. J. St. Loe |
| Law, A. (Rosendale) | Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) | Strauss, G. R. |
| Lawrence, Susan | Perry, S. F. | Sullivan, J. |
| Lawson, John James | Peters. Dr. Sidney John | Sutton, J. E. |
| Lawther, W. (Barnard Castle) | Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. | Taylor, R. A. (Lincoln) |
| Lee, Frank (Derby, N.E.) | Phillips, Dr. Marlon | Taylor, W. B. (Norfolk, S.W.) |
| Lee, Jennie (Lanark, Northern) | Picton-Turbervill, Edith | Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby) |
| Lees, J. | Pole, Major D. G. | Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow) |
| Lewis, T. (Southampton) | Ponsonby, Arthur | Tillett, Ben |
| Lindley, Fred W. | Potts, John S. | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Lloyd, C. Ellis | Price, M. P. | Toole, Joseph |
| Long bottom, A. W. | Pybus, Percy John | Tout, W. J. |
| Longden, F. | Quibeli. D. J. K. | Townend, A. E. |
| Lovat-Fraser, J. A. | Ramsay, T. B. Wilson | Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. Sir Charles |
| Lowth, Thomas | Raynes, W. R. | Turner, B. |
| Lunn, William | Richards, R. | Vaughan, D. J. |
| Macdonald, Gordon (Ince) | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | Viant, S. P. |
| MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham) | Riley, Ben (Dewsbury) | Walker, J. |
| McElwee, A. | Riley. F. F. (Stockton-on-Tees) | Wallhead, Richard C. |
| McEntee, V. L. | Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Bromwich) | Watkins, F. C. |
| Mackinder, W. | Robinson, Sir T. (Lanes, Stretford) | Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline). |
| McKinlay, A. | Romerll, H. G. | Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda) |
| MacLaren, Andrew | Rosbotham, D. S. T. | Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah |
| Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan) | Rothschild, J. de | Wellock, Wilfred |
| MacNelll-Weir, L. | Rowson, Guy | Welsh, James (Paisley) |
| Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I. | Salter, Dr. Alfred | Welsh, James C. (Coatbridge) |
| McShane, John James | Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen) | West, F. R. |
| Malone, C. L'Estrange (N'thampton) | Samuel, H. W. (Swansea, West) | Westwood, Joseph |
| Mander, Geoffrey le M. | Sanders, W. S. | Wheatley, Rt. Hon. J. |
| Mansfield, W. | Sandham, E. | White, H. G. |
| March, S. | Sawyer, G. F. | Whiteley, Wilfrid (Birm., Ladywood) |
| Markham, S. F. | Scott, James | Williams, David (Swansea, East) |
| Marley, J. | Scrymgeour, E. | Williams Dr. J. H. (Lianelly) |
| Mathers, George | Scurr, John | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Matters, L. W. | Sexton, James | Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe) |
| Maxton, James | Shakespeare, Geoffrey H. | Wilson, J. (Oldham) |
| Melville, Sir James | Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) | Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| Middleton, G. | Shepherd, Arthur Lewis | Winterton, G. E.(Leicester,Loughb'gh) |
| Millar, J. D. | Shield, George William | Wise, E. F. |
| Mills, J. E. | Shillaker, J. F. | Wood, Major McKenzie (Banff) |
| Milner, J. | Shinwell, E. | Wright, W. (Rutherglen) |
| Montague, Frederick | Short, Alfred (Wednesbury) | Young, R. S. (Islington, North) |
| Morgan, Dr. H. B. | Simmons, C. J. | |
| Morley, Ralph | Simon, E. D. (Manch'ter, Withington) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Morrison, Herbert (Hackney, South) | Sinclair, Sir A. (Caithness) | Mr. Hayes and Mr. Whiteley. |
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| Albery, Irving James | Butler, R. A. | Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) |
| Allen, W. E. D. (Belfast, W.) | Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward | Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. | Carver, Major W. H. | Dawson, Sir Philip |
| Astor, Maj. Hn. John J.(Kent, Dover) | Castle Stewart, Earl of | Duckworth, G. A. V. |
| Aster, Viscountess | Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) | Dugdale, Capt. T. L. |
| Atholl, Duchess of | Cayzer, Maj.Sir Herbt. R. (Prtsmth.S.) | Eden, Captain Anthony |
| Baillie Hamilton, Hon. Charles W. | Cazalet, Captain Victor A. | Edmondson, Major A. J. |
| Balfour, George (Hampstead) | Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbastan) | Elliot, Major Walter E. |
| Balfour, Captain H. H. (I. of Thanet) | Chapman, Sir S. | Everard, W. Lindsay |
| Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. | Cockerill, Brig. General Sir George | Faile, Sir Bertram G. |
| Bellairs, Commander Carlyon | Colman, N. C. D. | Ferguson, Sir John |
| Berry, Sir George | Colville, Major D. J. | Fielden, E. B. |
| Boothby, R. J. G. | Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. | Forestier-Walker, Sir L. |
| Bourne, Captain Robert Croft | Cranbourne, Viscount | Ganzoni, Sir John |
| Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart | Crichton-Stuart, Lord C. | Gault, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton |
| Bowyer, Captain Sir George E. W. | Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H. | Gibson, C. G. (Pudsey & Otley) |
| Boyce, H. L. | Crookshank, Cpt. H.(Lindsey, Gainbro) | Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John |
| Bracken, B. | Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) | Glyn, Major R. G. C. |
| Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th 'i'd'., Hexham) | Cunliffe-Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip | Grace, John |
| Burton, Colonel H. W. | Davies, Dr. Vernon | Graham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.) |
| Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. | Marjorlbanks, E. C. | Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down) |
| Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H. | Meller, R. J. | Smith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam) |
| Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) | Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) | Smith, R. W.(Aberd'n & Kinc'dina, C.) |
| Hamilton, Sir George (Ilford) | Mitchell-Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. | Smith-Carington, Neville W. |
| Hammersley, S. S. | Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B. | Smithers, Waldron |
| Hartington, Marquess of | Moore, Sir Newton J. (Richmond) | Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) |
| Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) | Morrison, Hugh (Wilts, Salisbury) | Somerville, D. G. (Willesden, East) |
| Haslam, Henry C. | Muirhead, A. J. | Southby, Commander A. R. J. |
| Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. | Newton, Sir D. G. C. (Cambridge) | Spender-Clay, Colonel H. |
| Herbert, Sir Dennis (Hertford) | Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W.G.(Ptrsf'ld) | Steel-Maitland, Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur |
| Herbert, S.(York, N.R., Scar. & Wh'by) | Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert | Stewart, W. J. (Belfast South) |
| Hills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller | Oman, Sir Charles William C. | Stuart, J. C. (Moray and Nairn) |
| Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. | Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William | Sueter, Rear-Admiral M. F. |
| Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) | Peake, Capt. Osbert | Thomas, Major L. B. (King's Norton) |
| Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. | Penny, Sir George | Titchfield, Major the Marquess of |
| Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) | Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) | Turton, Robert Hugh |
| Hurd, Percy A. | Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) | Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon |
| Hurst, Sir Gerald B. | Power, Sir John Cecil | Ward, Lieut.-Col. Sir A. Lambert |
| Kindersley, Major G. M. | Pownall, Sir Assheton | Wardlaw-Milne, J. S. |
| King, Commodore Rt. Hon. Henry D | Purbrick, R. | Warrender, Sir Victor |
| Knox, Sir Alfred | Ramsbotham, H. | Wayland, Sir William A. |
| Lamb, Sir J. Q. | Remer, John R. | Wells, Sydney R. |
| Leigh, Sir John (Clapham) | Reynolds, Col. Sir James | Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay) |
| Leighton, Major B. E. P. | Roberts, Sir Samuel (Eccfesall) | Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George |
| Llewellin, Major J. J. | Ross, Major Ronald D. | Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl |
| Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hon. Godfrey | Ruggles-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A. | Womersley, W. J. |
| Long, Major Eric | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) | Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley |
| Lymington, Viscount | Salmon, Major I. | Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L. |
| Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) | Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton |
| MacRobert, Rt. Hon. Alexander M. | Sandeman, Sir N. Stewart | |
| Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) | Sassoon, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip A. G. D. | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Makins, Brigadier-General E. | Savery, S. S. | Sir Frederick Thomson and Captain |
| Margesson, Captain H D. | Shepperson, Sir Ernest Whittome | Wallace. |
Question put, and agreed to.