HC Deb 08 May 1928 vol 217 cc191-6

Motion made, and Question proposed, "That this House do now adjourn."—[Commander Eyres Monsell.]

4.0 p.m.


I gave notice at Question time that I would raise the question of the way in which seamen are being treated, but I want to protest now that there is no member of the Government present who can answer me. The way in which the House is being treated by the Government is disgraceful. When we were in Committee a few minutes ago, the Government had not reports available for us regarding Scottish affairs, and now there is no Minister in his place to deal with the question of which I gave notice. It is, therefore, no use for me to continue my speech when I cannot get an adequate reply. I protest most strongly against the discourtesy of the Minister concerned and the Members of the Government.


The episode which has led to the wasting of hon. Members' time is one for which the Government are directly responsible. It has arisen because of the absence of material upon which Members representing Scottish constituencies can base their case against the Scottish Office. I am placed at a particular disadvantage inasmuch as, after prolonged absence from the House, I come here without the necessary material for Debate, and I find that the Secretary of State for Scotland is not in a position to furnish that material either to myself or to my hon. Friends. In these circumstances, we on this side were entitled to raise a protest in the manner that we did. We complain not alone of the absence of material, but of the procedure for which the Secretary of State for Scotland is responsible. The Government appear to have shirked their responsibility this afternoon by evading the issue in the Division Lobby.


I thought the hon. Member rose to raise some question on the Motion for the Adjournment of the House. It would be out of order for him to proceed with the speech he is now making.


I naturally desire to respond to your ruling, but it did appear to me that the circumstances which gave rise to the extraordinary episode of a few minutes ago were a subject that might properly be raised now.


I understand that the Committee was unanimous in passing the Motion to report Progress.


The episode is one to which the attention of the House should be directed. We are entitled to complain of the attitude of the Government in the matter. I respond to your ruling, however, and shall say nothing further.

Question put, "That this House do now adjourn."

The House divided: Ayes, 170; Noes, 102.

Division No. 113.] AYES. [4.13 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M
Ainsworth, Lieut.-Col. Charles Glyn, Major R. G. C. Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T. C. R. (Ayr)
Allen, J. Sandeman (L'pool, W. Derby) Grace, John Morrison, H. (Wilts, Salisbury)
Allan, Lieut.-Col. Sir William James Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. Nelson, Sir Frank
Applin, Colonel R. V. K. Gretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. John Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter)
Astbury, Lieut.-Commander F. W Grotrian, H. Brent Penny, Frederick George
Atholl, Duchess of Gunston, Captain D. W. Perkins, Colonel E. K.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Hacking, Douglas H. Peto, G. (Somerset, Frome)
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Hall, Lieut.-Col. Sir F. (Dulwich) Pownall, Sir Assheton
Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. p. H. Hall, Capt. W. D'A. (Brecon & Rad.) Price, Major C. W. M.
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Hamilton, Sir George Ralne, Sir Walter
Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish. Hammersley, S. S. Ramsden, E.
Bethel, A. Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Reid, D. D. (County Down)
Betterton, Henry B. Harrison, G. J. C. Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y)
Blades, Sir George Rowland Hartington, Marquess of Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) Ropner, Major L.
Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M. Ruggles-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A.
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley) Salmon, Major I.
Briggs, J. Harold Henderson, Lieut.-Col. Sir Vivian Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Briscoe, Richard George Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. Sandeman, N. Stewart
Brittain, Sir Harry Henn, Sir Sydney H. Sanders, Sir Robert A.
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J. Sandon, Lord
Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. Hills, Major John Waller Savery, S. S.
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C.(Berks, Newb'y) Hilton, Cecil Shaw, Lt.-Col. A. D. Mcl. (Renfrew. W)
Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William James Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. Sheffield, Sir Berkeley
Burman, J. B. Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard Skelton, A. N.
Burton, Colonel H. W. Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dlne, C.)
Cadogan, Major Hon. Edward Hopkins, J. W. W. Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Cautley, Sir Henry S. Hopkinson, Sir A. (Eng. Universities) Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. Spender-Clay, Colonel H.
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) Hurd, Percy A. Sprot, sir Alexander
Charteris, Brigadier-General J. James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert Stanley, Lieut.-Colonel Rt. Hon. G. F.
Clarry, Reginald George Jephcott, A. R. Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips Kindersley, Major Guy M. Steel, Major Samuel Strang
Cooper, A. Duff King, Commodore Henry Douglas Streatfeild, Captain S. R.
Cope, Major William Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Sugden, sir Wilfrid
Couper, J. B. Knox, Sir Alfred Templeton, W. P.
Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Lamb, J. O. Thorn, Lt.-Col. J. G. (Dumbarton)
Crookshank, Cpt. H.(Lindsey, Gainsbro) Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R. Thompson, Luke (Sunderland)
Curzon, Captain viscount Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell-
Davidson, Rt. Hon. J. (Hertford) Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green) Tinne, J. A.
Davits, Sir Thomas (Cirencester) Loder, J. de V. Turton, Sir Edmund Russborough
Davies, Dr. Vernon Long, Major Eric Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L. (Kingston-on-Hull)
Dean, Arthur Wellesley Looker, Herbert William Warrender, Sir Victor
Dixey, A. C. Lougher, Lewis Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle)
Ellis, R. G. Luce, Maj.-Gen. Sir Richard Harman Watts, Dr. T.
Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.-M.) Lumley, L. R. Wayland, Sir William A.
Everard, W. Lindsay Lynn, Sir R. J. Williams, A. M. (Cornwall, Northern)
Falle, Sir Bertram G. MacAndrew, Major Charles Glen Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay)
Fanshawe, Captain G. D. Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) Williams, Herbert G. (Reading)
Fermoy, Lord Macintyre, Ian Wilson, Sir Murrough (Yorks, Richm'd)
Fielden, E. B. Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Lichfield)
Forestier-Walker, Sir L. Macqulsten, F. A. Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Fraser, Captain Ian MacRobert, Alexander M. Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Frece, Sir Walter de Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn
Ganzoni, Sir John Marriott, Sir J. A. R. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Gates, Percy. Milne, J. S. Wardlaw- Mr. F. C. Thomson and Captain
Gauit, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton Mitchell, W. Foot (Saffron Walden) Margesson.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Day, Harry John, William (Rhondda, West)
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwelity) Johnston, Thomas (Dundee)
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Gibbins, Joseph Jones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown)
Attlee, Clement Richard Gillett, George M. Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd)
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Gosling, Harry Kelly, W. T.
Barr, J. Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton) Kennedy, T.
Briant, Frank Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Coins) Lansbury, George
Broad, F. A. Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Lawrence, Susan
Bromfieid, William Griffith, F. Kingsley Lawson, John James
Bromley, J. Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Lee, F.
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Groves, T. Lindley, F. W.
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) Hall, F. (York., W.R., Normanton) Lowth, T.
Cape, Thomas Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Lunn, William
Cluse, W. S. Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) MacLarsn, Andrew
Compton, Joseph Hardle, George D. Maclean, Nell (Glasgow, Govan)
Connolly, M. Hayday, Arthur Macpherson, Rt. Hon. Jamas I.
Cove, W. G. Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Malone, C. L'Estrange (N'thampton)
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Hollins, A. Maxton, James
Dalton, Hugh Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.)
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) Murnin, H.
Palin, John Henry Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip Wellock, Wilfred
Parkinson, John Allan (Wigan) Stamford, T. W. Welsh, J. C.
Ponsonby, Arthur Stephen, Campbell Westwood, J.
Potts, John S. Stewart, J. (St. Rollox) Wheatley, Rt. Hon. J.
Ritson, J. Sutton, I. E. Whiteley, W
Robinson, W. C. (Yorks, W. R. Elland) Thomas, Sir Robert John (Anglesey) Wiggins, William Martin
Rote, Frank H. Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.) Williams, C. P. (Denbigh, Wrexham)
Batter, Dr. Alfred Thurtle, Ernest Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
Shepherd, Arthur Lewis Tinker, John Joseph Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Shiels, Dr. Drummond Townend, A. E. Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Shinwell, E. Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. C. P. Windsor, Walter
Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness) Varley, Frank B. Wright, W.
Smillie, Robert Walihead, Richard C.
Smith, Rennie (Penistone) Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline) TELLERS FOR THE NOES.
Snail. Harry Webb, Rt. Hon. Sidney Mr. A. Barnes and Mr. T. Henderson.

Adjourned accordingly at Twenty Minutes after Four o'Clock.