HC Deb 08 March 1928 vol 214 cc1238-42
Mr. RAMSAY MacDONALD

Is the Prime Minister moving the suspension, of the Eleven O'clock Rule to-night in order to give all parties a chance of supporting the Protection of Lapwings Bill—that, and that alone—or does he propose to take contentious business?

The PRIME MINISTER

No. I do not think the business I propose to take is contentious. It is customary to move the suspension of the Eleven O'clock Rule on the first night of the Army discussions in order to make sure of getting the Committee stage of the Votes. We do hope to get the Second Reading of the Lapwings Bill, if it be non-contentious, and we hope to get the Report of the Super-annuation (Diplomatic Service) [Money] Resolution.

Mr. MacDONALD

Is it necessary to get the Report stage of the Superannuation (Diplomatic Service) [Money] Resolution? Otherwise, I think we might let the Eleven O'clock Rule go.

The PRIME MINISTER

We must get the Army Votes, and there are always many hon. Members who wish to speak on them, but it is not my desire to keep the House up unduly late to-night.

Mr. MacDONALD

The point is not the Army Votes, but the Superannuation (Diplomatic Service) [Money] Resolution.

The PRIME MINISTER

I was going to say that we hoped to get that, but I do not propose to keep the House unduly late to get it.

Mr. KIRKWOOD

I hope we will be in order in debating this Superannuation (Diplomatic Service) [Money] Resolution, because, if I am present, I intend to do so.

Mr. MacDONALD

May I ask the Prime Minister what business he proposes to take next week?

The PRIME MINISTER

On Monday, it is proposed to move Mr. Speaker out of the Chair on the Air Estimates and consider Votes A, 1, 4, 2, and 3 in Committee.

Tuesday, Second Reading of the Local Authorities (Emergency Provisions) Bill; further progress with the British Guiana Bill, and the Superannuation (Diplomatic Service) Bill; and other Orders on the Paper.

Thursday, it is proposed to move Mr. Speaker out of the Chair on the Navy Estimates and consider in Committee Votes A, 1, 10, and 2; Navy Supplementary Estimate, 1927, and Civil Excess Vote, 1926–27.

On any day, if time permit, other Orders will be taken.

The Air Estimates, I believe, were in the Vote Office this morning. The other Service Estimates to be taken next week will be available to Members at the week-end.

Mr. MacDONALD

Can the right hon. Gentleman give us any idea when he is to make his announcement about the Franchise Bill; and, secondly, when a

day is to be given for the Debate arising out of the Treasury Report?

The PRIME MINISTER

Yes. To take the latter question first, I hope to fix the first portion of Monday week, the 19th instant. In regard to the Franchise Bill, it will be presented on Monday next. I cannot yet give the date of the Second Reading, but my undertaking holds, that the Second Reading will be taken before we rise for the Easter Recess.

Mr. WALLHEAD

Does the right hon. Gentleman propose to lay the Minutes of Evidence before the House before the Debate on the Treasury Report takes place?

The PRIME MINISTER

No.

Mr. WALLHEAD

What is the use of having a Debate then, if we do not know what it is about?

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order Sittings of the House."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 224; Noes, 111.

Division No. 27.] AYES. [3.51 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Chapman, Sir S. Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John
Agg-Gardner, Rt. Hon. Sir James T. Charterls, Brigadier-Central J. Glyn, Major R. G. C.
Albery, Irving James Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Goff, Sir Park
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) Churchman, Sir Arthur C. Grace, John
Allen,J.Sandeman (L'pool, W. Derby) Clarry, Reginald George Grant, Sir J. A.
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S. Cohen, Major J. Brunel Grotrlan, H. Brent
Apsley, Lord Cooper, A. Duff Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E.
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Cope, Major William Hacking, Douglas H.
Balniel, Lord Couper, J. B. Hamilton, Sir George
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Hammersley, S. S.
Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. Crookshank, Cpt.H. (Lindsey, Gainsbro) Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon Culverwell, C. T. (Bristol, West) Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent)
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Cunliffe, Sir Herbert Harrison, G. J. C.
Bennett, A. J. Dalkeith, Earl of Hartington, Marquess of
Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish- Davies, MaJ-Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington)
Berry, Sir George Davies, Sir Thomas (Cirencester) Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes)
Bethel, A. Davies, Dr. Vernon Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M.
Betterton, Henry B. Dawson, Sir Philip Henderson, Capt, R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley)
Bird, E. R. (Yorks, W. R., Skipton) Drewe, C. Henderson, Sir Vlvian (Bootle)
Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W.) Eden, Captain Anthony Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P.
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft. Edmondson, Major A. J. Henn, Sir Sydney H.
Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. Edwards, J. Hugh (Accrington) Hills, Major John Waller
Brass, Captain W. Elliot, Major Walter E. Hilton, Cecil
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive Ellis, R. G. Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G.
Briggs, J. Harold England, Colonel A. Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D.(St. Marylebone)
Briscoe, Richard George Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s-M.) Holbrook, Sir Arthur Richard
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith Holt, Captain H. P.
Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. Evans, Captain A. (Cardiff, South) Hope, Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.)
Broun-Lindsay, Major H. Everard, W. Lindsay Hope, Sir Harry (Forlar)
Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) Fairfax, Captain J. G. Hopkinson, Sir A. (Eng. Universities)
Brown, Brig.-Gen.H.C. (Berks, Newb'y) Falle, Sir Bertram G. Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley)
Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William James Fanshawe, Captain G. D. Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K.
Burman, J. B. Forestier-Walker, Sir L. Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.)
Campbell, E. T. Forrest, W. Hume, Sir G. H.
Cautley, Sir Henry S. Foster, Sir Harry S. Hunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir Aylmer
Cazalet, Captain Victor A. Fraser, Captain lan Huntingfield, Lord
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) Gadle, Lieut-Col. Anthony Hurd, Percy A.
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. H. (Ladywood) Gauit, Lieut.-Col. Andrew Hamilton Iveagh, Countess of
Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen't) Nuttall, Ellis Stanley, Lord (Fylde)
James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert Oman, Sir Charles William C. Storry-Deans, R.
Jephcott, A. R. Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William Stott, Lieut.-Colonel W. H.
Jones, Sir G. W. H. (Stoke New'gton) Penny, Frederick George Streatfeild, Captain S. R.
Joynson-Hicks, Rt. Hon. Sir William Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) Stuart, Crichton-, Lord C.
Kennedy, A. R. (Preston) Perkins, Colonel E. K. Sugden, Sir Wilfrid
King, Commodore Henry Douglas Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) Templeton, W. P.
Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement Peto, G. (Somerset, Frome) Thom, Lt.Col. J. G. (Dumbarton)
Knox, Sir Alfred Power, Sir John Cecil Thompson, Luke (Sunderland)
Lamb, J. Q. Pownall, Sir Assheton Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell
Leigh, Sir John (Clapham) Preston, William Tinne, J. A.
Lister, Cunliffe, Rt. Hon- Sir Philip Price, Major C. W. M. Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) Raine, Sir Walter Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green) Ramsden, E. Vaughan-Morgan, Col. K. P.
Looker, Herbert William Rawson, Sir Cooper Waddington, R.
Lougher, Lewis Reid, Capt. Cunningham(Warrington) Wallace, Captain D. E.
Luce, Maj.-Gen. Sir Richard Harman Rhys Hon. C. A. U. Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L.(Kingston-on-Hull)
Lumley, L. R. Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y) Warrender, Sir Victor
Lynn, Sir R. J. Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs, Stretford) Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carilsle)
MacAndrew, Major Charles Glen Ropner, Major L. Wells, S. R.
McDonnell, Colonel Hon. Angus Ruggles-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A. White, Lieut.-Col. Sir G. Dairymple
MacIntyre, Ian Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) Williams, A. M. (Cornwall, Northern)
Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm Salmon, Major I. Williams, Com. C. (Devon, Torquay)
Macquisten, F. A. Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) Williams, Herbert G. (Reading)
MacRobert, Alexander M. Sandeman, N. Stewart Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Lichfield)
Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) Sanderson, Sir Frank Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Malone, Major P. B. Sassoon, Sir Philip Albert Gustave D. Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Margesson, Capt. D. Savery, S. S. Womersley, W. J.
Mason, Colonel Glyn K. Sheffield, Sir Berkeley Wood, B. C. (Somerset, Bridgewater)
Meller, R. J. Shepperson, E. W. Wood, E. (Chest'r, Stalyb'ge & Hyde)
Milne, J. S. Wardlaw- Skelton, A. N. Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley
Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) Slaney, Major P. Kenyon Woodcock, Colonel H. C.
Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.) Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Moore, Lieut.-Colonel T, C. R. (Ayr) Smith-Carington, Neville W. Wragg, Herbert
Nelson, Sir Frank Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Neville, Sir Reginald J. Spender-Clay, Colonel H. TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Newman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Fxeter) Sprot, Sir Alexander Major Sir George Hennessy and
Nicholson. Col. Rt. Hn. W.G. (Ptrsf'ld.) Stanley, Lieut.-Colonel Rt. Hon. G. F. Mr. F. C. Thomson.
NOES.
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Scrymgeour, E.
Ammon, Charles George Hore-Belisha, Leslie Sexton, James
Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bilston) Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston)
Baker, Walter Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) Shepherd, Arthur Lewis
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Jankins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) Shiels, Dr. Drummond
Barnes, A. Johnston, Thomas (Dundee) Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Barr, J. Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness)
Batey, Joseph Junes, T, I. Mardy (Pontypridd) Smith, Rennie (Penistone)
Beckett, John (Gateshead) Kelly, W. T. Snell, Harry
Bondfield, Margaret Kennedy, T. Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Kenworthy, Lt.-Com. Hon. Joseph M. Stamford, T. W.
Broad, F. A. Kirkwood, D. Stephen, Campbell
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Lansbury, George Stewart, J. (St. Rollox)
Buchanan, G. Lawrence, Susan Sullivan, Joseph
Buxton, Rt. Hon. Noel Lawson, John James Sutton, J. E.
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Livingstone, A. M. Taylor, R. A.
Compton, Joseph Lowth, T. Thomas, Sir Robert John (Anglesey)
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities) Lunn, William Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.)
Crawfurd, H. E. MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon) Tinker, John Joseph
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton) MacNeill-Weir, L. Tomlinson, R. P.
Dennison, R. Malone, C. L'Estrange (N'thampton) Trevelyan, Rt. Hon. C. P.
Dunnico, H. March, S. Varley, Frank B.
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty) Maxton, James Viant, S. P.
Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. Morris, R. H. Wellhead, Richard C.
Gosling, Harry Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Walsh, Rt. Hon. Stephen
Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edln., Cent.) Oliver, George Harold Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) Owen, Major G. Webb, Rt. Hon. Sidney
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) Paling, W. Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Joslah
Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan) Wellock, Wilfred
Groves, T. Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. Wheatley, Rt. Hon. J.
Grundy, T. W. Ponsonby, Arthur Wiggins, William Martin
Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil) Potts, John S. Williams, Dr. J. H. (Lianelly)
Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Hardle, George D. Ritson, J. Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Hayday, Arthur Robinson, W. C. (Yorks,W.R.,Elland) Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Henderson, Rt. Hon. A. (Burnley) Rose, Frank H.
Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Saklatvala, Shapurji TELLERS FOR THE NOES.
Hirst, G. H. Salter, Dr. Alfred Mr Hayes and Mr.Whiteley.

Question, "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the Chair," put, and agreed to.