HC Deb 26 June 1928 vol 219 cc337-41

Motion made and Question proposed, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."

Mr. A. V. ALEXANDER

I want to say a few words upon this Clause with a view of getting a little information about it. As far as I am able to understand this Clause, it proposes to increase very considerably the preference given to films produced in the British Empire for foreign firms. Some of us spent many weary days debating the Films Bill, and we had many discussions on the merits of British films and those produced in various parts of the Empire. At present, there is a foregn import duty on foreign film negatives of 5d. per foot while the film negatives from the Empire are charged 3ࡩd. per foot. The effect of the proposals in this Clause is to charge all negative films from the Empire at the same rate is blank films; that is to say, at the rate of 2/9ths of a penny per foot. Already, the producers have to get a spec al licence to exhibit the films, and they are bound to take a certain quota of British films. I think we ought to have some statement from the Minister in charge as to why it is necessary to increase the preference so much as is proposed in this Clause.

The UNDER-SECRETARY of STATE for SCOTLAND (Major Elliot)

The hon. Member for Hillsborough (Mr. A. V. Alexander) has correctly stated the facts. The import duty on foreign film negatives is 5d. per foot while film negatives from the Empire are to be charged ⅓d. per foot. This Bill therefore affords an instance in which we are lowering a tax. The reason for our action is that this concession was previously confined to United Kingdom films made overseas, made by the United Kingdom producers overseas and brought to this country. We are now extending this concession to British Empire films. The loss to the revenue caused by the proposals we are now making will only amount to something like £350, which is not a very large amount. The British Empire film nega-

tive imports amount to 23,400 feet as against foreign film negative imports of 5,462,000 feet. I hope the hon. Member for Hillsborough will be satisfied with this information.

Question put, "That the Clause stand part of the Bill."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 207; Noes, 118.

Division No. 190.] AYES. [8.42 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-Colonel Fermoy, Lord Making, Brigadier-General E.
Agg-Gardner, Rt. Hon. Sir James T. Fielden, E. B. Malone, Major P. B.
Albery, Irving James Finburgh, S. Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton) Ford, Sir P. J. Margesson, Captain D.
Alexander, Sir Wm. (Glasgow, Cent'l) Fraser, Captain Ian Mason, Colonel Glyn K.
Applin, Colonel R. V. K. Frece, Sir Walter de Merriman, Sir F. Boyd
Ashley Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. Meyer, Sir Frank.
Astbury. Lieut.-Commander F. W. Gadie, Lieut.-Col. Anthony Milne, J. S. Wardlaw
Atholl, Duchess of Galbraith, J. F. W. Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark)
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. Stanley Ganzoni, Sir John Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M.
Balfour, George (Hampstead) Gates, Percy Moore, Sir Newton J.
Barclay-Harvey, C. M. Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John Morrison Bell, Sir Arthur Clive
Barnett, Major Sir Richard Glyn, Major R. G. C. Nall, Colonel Sir Joseph
Bellairs, Commander Carlyon Grace, John Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) Grenfell, Edward C. (City of London) Nuttall, Ellis
Bennett, A. J. Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. F. E. (Bristol, N.) Oakley, T.
Berry, Sir George Gunston, Captain D. W. O'Neill, Major Rt. Hon. Hugh
Bethel, A. Hamilton, Sir George Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings)
Birchall, Major J. Dearman Hammersley, S. S. Perring, Sir William George
Bird, Sir R. B. (Wolverhampton, W.) Hanbury, C. Philipson, Mabel
Blundell, F. N. Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry Pilcher, G.
Boothby, R. J. G. Harland, A. Pilditch, Sir Philip
Bourne, Captain Robert Croft Harmsworth, Hon. E. C. (Kent) Preston, William
Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W. Harrison, G. J. C. Radford, E. A.
Braithwaite, Major A. N. Harvey, G. (Lambeth, Kennington) Ramsden, E.
Brass, Captain W. Haslam, Henry C. Rawson, Sir Cooper
Briggs, J. Harold Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M. Rees, Sir Beddoe
Brocklebank, C. E. R. Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley) Reid, D. D. (County Down)
Buchan, John Henderson, Lieut.-Col. Sir Vivian Remer, J. R.
Burgoyne, Lieut.-Colonel Sir Alan Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P. Rentoul, G. S.
Burman, J. B. Henn, Sir Sydney H. Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y)
Burney, Lieut.-Com. Charles D. Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J. Roberts, Sir Samuel (Hereford)
Burton, Colonel H. W. Hills, Major John Waller Ropner, Major L.
Cassels, J. D. Hilton, Cecil Ruggles-Brise, Lieut.-Colonel E. A.
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston) Hopkins, J. W. W. Rye, F. G.
Christie, J. A. Hopkinson, Sir A. (Eng. Universities) Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston Spencer Horlick, Lieut.-Colonel J. N. Samuel, Samuel (W'dsworth, Putney)
Cobb, Sir Cyril Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.) Sandeman, N. Stewart
Cohen, Major J. Brunel Hudson, R. S. (Cumberl'nd, Whiteh'n) Sandon, Lord
Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips Hume, Sir G. H. Savery, S. S.
Cooper, A. Duff Hurd, Percy A. Shaw, Lt.-Col. A. D. Mcl. (Renfrew, W)
Cope, Major Sir William Hurst, Gerald B. Shepperson, E. W.
Couper, J. B. Iliffe, Sir Edward M. Slaney, Major P. Kenyon
Courtauld, Major J. S. Iveagh, Countess of Smith, R. W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, C.)
Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L. Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l) Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Cowan, Sir Wm. Henry (Islington, N.) James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert Somerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Craig, Capt. Rt. Hon. C. C. (Antrim) Jephcott, A. R. Sprot, Sir Alexander
Craig, Sir Ernest (Chester, Crewe) Jones, Sir G. W. H. (Stoke New'gton) Stanley, Lieut.-Colonel Rt. Hon. G. F.
Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend) Kennedy, A. R. (Preston) Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westm'eland)
Crookshank, Cpt. H. (Lindsey, Gainsbro) Kindersley, Major Guy M. Storry-Deans, R.
Curzon, Captain Viscount King, Commodore Henry Douglas Styles, Captain H. Walter
Dalkeith, Earl of Lamb, J. Q. Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)
Davidson, Major-General Sir John H. Lane Fox, Col. Rt. Hon. George R. Tinne, J. A.
Davies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil) Leigh, Sir John (Clapham) Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Davies, Sir Thomas (Cirencester) Lister, Cunliffe-, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Davies, Dr. Vernon Loder, J. de V. Vaughan-Morgan, Col. K. P.
Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) Looker, Herbert William Wallace, Captain D. E.
Dixon, Captain Rt. Hon. Herbert Lougher, Lewis Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L. (Kingston-on-Hull)
Drewe, C. Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere Warner, Brigadier-General W. W.
Eden, Captain Anthony Luce, Maj.-Gen. Sir Richard Harman Waterhouse, Captain Charles
Edmondson, Major A. J. Lynn, Sir Robert J. Watts, Sir Thomas
Elliot, Major Walter E. MacAndrew, Major Charles Glen Wells, S. R.
Ellis, R. G. Macdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.) Williams, A. M. (Cornwall, Northern)
Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.-M.) Macdonald, R. (Glasgow, Cathcart) Williams, Herbert G. (Reading)
Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith McLean, Major A. Wilson, R. R. (Stafford, Lichfield)
Everard, W. Lindsay MacRobert, Alexander M. Winby, Colonel L. P.
Falle, Sir Bertram G. Maitland, A. (Kent, Faversham) Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Wolmer, Viscount Wragg, Herbert TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Wood, E. (Chest'r, Stalyb'ge & Hyde) Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T Mr. Penny and Sir Victor Warrender.
Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley Young, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton (Norwich)
NOES.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West) Henderson, Right Hon. A. (Burnley) Scurr, John
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock) Henderson, T. (Glasgow) Sexton, James
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') Hirst, G. H. Shepherd, Arthur Lewis
Attlee, Clement Richard Hirst, W. (Bradford, South) Shinwell, E.
Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bilston) Hore-Belisha, Leslie Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Baker, Walter Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield) Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery) Hutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose) Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness)
Barr, J. Johnston, Thomas (Dundee) Sitch, Charles H.
Batey, Joseph Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth) Slesser, Sir Henry H.
Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly) Smillie, Robert
Broad, F. A. Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) Smith, Ben (Bermondsey, Rotherhithe)
Bromfield, William Kelly, W. T. Snowden, Rt. Hon. Philip
Bromley, J. Kennedy, T. Stamford, T. W.
Brown, Ernest (Leith) Kirkwood, D. Stewart, J. (St. Rollox)
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) Lansbury, George Strauss, E. A.
Buchanan, G. Lawson, John James Sutton, J. E.
Charleton, H. C. Lee, F. Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby)
Cluse, W. S. Livingstone, A. M Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton, E.)
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. Lowth, T. Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Compton, Joseph Lunn, William Thurtle, Ernest
Cove, W. G. MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon) Tinker, John Joseph
Dalton, Hugh Mackinder, W. Tomlinson, R. P.
Day, Harry Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan) Townend, A. E.
Dennison, R. Malone, C. L'Estrange (N'thampton) Varley, Frank B.
Dunnico, H. March, S. Viant, S. P.
Edge, Sir William Morris, R. H. Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Evans, Capt. Ernest (Welsh Univer.) Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Fenby, T. D. Murnin, H. Westwood, J.
Garro-Jones, Captain G. M. Naylor, T. E. Wheatley, Rt. Hon. J.
Gibbins, Joseph Oliver, George Harold Whiteley, W.
Gillett, George M. Owen, Major G. Wiggins, William Martin
Gosling, Harry Palin, John Henry Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Greenall, T. Paling, W. Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow)
Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) Pethick-Lawrence, F. W. Windsor, Walter
Griffith, F. Kingsley Potts, John S. Wright, W.
Groves, T. Purcell, A. A. Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Grundy, T. W. Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)
Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton) Riley, Ben
Hardie, George D. Ritson, J. TELLERS FOR THE NOES.
Harris, Percy A. Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O. (W. Bromwich) Mr. Allen Parkinson and Mr. Charles
Hayday, Arthur Scrymgeour, E. Edwards.